The Foley affair: A snapshot of the depraved state of American politics
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Do I believe this story is true? It probably is. Could it be manufactured to take our minds away from other things that are taking place? It probably is. The main question is "why now"? Here it is someone has alleged to have reported this guy apprx three years ago, yet that person didn't go to authorities with this info? I understand some watch groups went to the FBI and they couldn't investigate (they said they needed more money), but I think something else is going on here.
And lets not forget more people are resigning. Could this lead to a wide range sex scandal? Sex and violence makes money, and we all know when high profile people are scandalized people usually stay glued to the box. What better story to have right now than a politician fighting for child rights and against child porn all while being a molested molestor....
Only in america......
Only in america......
a tiny, interesting piece of reading concerning a similar sex scandal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Coverup_Scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Coverup_Scandal
SHIT, IF YOU gONNA DEAL WITH THAT TYPE OF SHIT ALL THE TIME AS A CRIMINOLOgIST , YOU BETTER BE DESENSITIZED WHERE YOU ONLY LOOKIN' AT IT WITHOUT YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS. CAUSE I KNOW I COULDN'T DO THAT. MUCH PROPS FOR STOMACHIN' THAT SHIT. I KNOW I CAN'T.
YEAH, CAUSE YOU DESENSITIZED. THE SHIT WOULD BOTHER ME.
WHAT A SHAME
. I JUST WATCHED ANOTHA MOVIE ABOUT SOME TRANSVESTITE WHO HAS A SON WHO TURNED TRIKS CAUSE HE WAS NEVA THERE FOR HIM. I THINK IT'S CALLED TRANSgENDER AMERIKKKA OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT. IT STARS THAT ONE BITCH FROM DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES PLAYIN' THE LEAD ROLE OF THE TRANSVESTITE. IT'S FUNNY HOW THIS SHIT AIN'T THAT TABOO IN OUR SOCIETY.
YEAH, CAUSE YOU DESENSITIZED. THE SHIT WOULD BOTHER ME.
WHAT A SHAME
. I JUST WATCHED ANOTHA MOVIE ABOUT SOME TRANSVESTITE WHO HAS A SON WHO TURNED TRIKS CAUSE HE WAS NEVA THERE FOR HIM. I THINK IT'S CALLED TRANSgENDER AMERIKKKA OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT. IT STARS THAT ONE BITCH FROM DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES PLAYIN' THE LEAD ROLE OF THE TRANSVESTITE. IT'S FUNNY HOW THIS SHIT AIN'T THAT TABOO IN OUR SOCIETY.
In some cases my personal views would be required in order to determine if the person is sane or to determine what type of individual we are dealing with.
I would hope by now that telling you that I am not desensitized would have stuck in your skull. Since you obviously don't know the definition here:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/desensitized
Pay attention to definition #3, and after you ponder it answer the following question. If a person read or heard something like this and decided to do counseling for molestation victims (while still being a criminologist) or if the person read this and decided to investigate unsolved cases of this very nature would you still say the person was desensitized or would you say the person is sympathetic towards the needs of the victims who have been molested and for the families who have yet to have closure?
Think about it before you answer, and stop comin at me with some off the wall shit.
I read a instant message chat that took less than two minutes to read. You sat through an entire movie dealing with transvestites and transgender. In addition, you even know it stars someone from a show that is constantly watch by "predominate anglo culture". Would it be safe to say that YOU are desensitized to transgenders and transexuals?
I would hope by now that telling you that I am not desensitized would have stuck in your skull. Since you obviously don't know the definition here:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/desensitized
Pay attention to definition #3, and after you ponder it answer the following question. If a person read or heard something like this and decided to do counseling for molestation victims (while still being a criminologist) or if the person read this and decided to investigate unsolved cases of this very nature would you still say the person was desensitized or would you say the person is sympathetic towards the needs of the victims who have been molested and for the families who have yet to have closure?
Think about it before you answer, and stop comin at me with some off the wall shit.
I read a instant message chat that took less than two minutes to read. You sat through an entire movie dealing with transvestites and transgender. In addition, you even know it stars someone from a show that is constantly watch by "predominate anglo culture". Would it be safe to say that YOU are desensitized to transgenders and transexuals?
^THERE YOU gO. I WAS CHOPPIN' gAME. ALRIgHT, YOU AIN'T DESENSITIZED IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA HEAR. BUT I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO BE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. BUT HELL NAW I AIN'T DESENSITIZED, I DIDN'T PIK THAT FLIK, A BITCH DID AND TO BE THE BIgKER PERSON, I WATCHED IT WITH HER. AND I DIDN'T ENJOY IT ONE BIT.
I understand what you're saying, but what I'm basically saying is I haven't been exposed to enough of it to be desensitized. So, with that being said it isn't a matter of what I want to hear but a matter of what really is.
In some cases you have to be because you can't take the madness home with you. However, a lot of people use the term you use and it often implies that the person is devoid of emotion and sympathy for the victim.
So instead of being a man and telling a female why you shouldn't watch transgender movies you went along with it?!?!?! Wouldn't the bigger person have been strong in their convictions? Finally, I read what I read for educational purposes. You watched what you watched for entertainment and to please a female. Would it be safe to say that you're desensitized and have to spine when it comes to manlihood?
In some cases you have to be because you can't take the madness home with you. However, a lot of people use the term you use and it often implies that the person is devoid of emotion and sympathy for the victim.
So instead of being a man and telling a female why you shouldn't watch transgender movies you went along with it?!?!?! Wouldn't the bigger person have been strong in their convictions? Finally, I read what I read for educational purposes. You watched what you watched for entertainment and to please a female. Would it be safe to say that you're desensitized and have to spine when it comes to manlihood?
gOTCHA. BUT WHAT I'M SAYIN' IS THAT YOU WOULD SEE CASE AFTER CASE OF THAT SHIT AND IN THAT REgARD BE EXPOSED TO IT.
O.K. THAT'S UNDA-STANDABLE.
SO WHAT IS BEIN' A MAN? LOL AIN'T THAT A LABEL? SYKE, LET ME QUIT WITH THE SYMANTECS. BUT SHE PICCED THE FLIK AND IT WAS A MAINSTREAM FLIK, AND I AIN'T gONNA KNOK SOMETHIN' TIL I WATCH IT. IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS SOME PORN, THEN THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT USUALLY I LET THE BREEZY WATCH HER "WHITE" FLIKS AND SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST (THE SHIT I CHOOSE). BUT IT AIN'T NO BIg THANg. SHE KNOW IF I DON'T gO FOR SOMETHIN', IT'S FINAL.
O.K. THAT'S UNDA-STANDABLE.
SO WHAT IS BEIN' A MAN? LOL AIN'T THAT A LABEL? SYKE, LET ME QUIT WITH THE SYMANTECS. BUT SHE PICCED THE FLIK AND IT WAS A MAINSTREAM FLIK, AND I AIN'T gONNA KNOK SOMETHIN' TIL I WATCH IT. IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS SOME PORN, THEN THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT USUALLY I LET THE BREEZY WATCH HER "WHITE" FLIKS AND SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST (THE SHIT I CHOOSE). BUT IT AIN'T NO BIg THANg. SHE KNOW IF I DON'T gO FOR SOMETHIN', IT'S FINAL.
Foley's conduct was no secret to bloggers
Rumors on the web go back to March '05, raises questions about leadership
COMMENTARY
By Tony Maciulis
Senior producer
MSNBC
Updated: 1:25 p.m. PT Oct 4, 2006
ABC's Brian Ross broke the story of Mark Foley's digital escapades with underage boys last Friday. He was the first mainstream journalist to do so, but the story has been circulating on the Internet for over a year.
Washington blogs are notorious for their eyebrow raising gossip. We all remember the joy of reading the blog "The Washingtonienne," by Jessica Cutler. Her saucy stories of Capitol capers became a thinly veiled novel. Anything more than "fiction" would have probably gotten her sued, even though the stories were clearly based on things she witnessed in D.C..
Well, there was also a digital record of the allegations against Mark Foley. I am not referring to Foley being gay. That, it seems, wasn't much of a secret. Rather, it's the specific charge of pursuing underage boys.
The online rumors began, to the extent they can be pieced together, in March of 2005.
On a website called Blogactive, I found this quote:
"Foley is often seen entertaining young men, some of whom appear close to underage."
Later that month, on March 22, this ominous comment from the blogger:
"Everyone already knows Foley's a self-hating closet case.
When we get closer to the midterm elections, I am sure more will surface."
That website is run by a man named Mike Rogers, and the site makes a point of outing gay Republicans and other politicos who are not openly gay. It can be inferred from the second quote that there was something more than sexuality in play for Foley, and the "midterm" reference seems oddly omnipotent right now.
In July of this year, a new website went up called Stop Sex Predators, over at Blogspot. The site was small and generated very little traffic. The first postings stated the mission was to catch predators, and rehashed a few well known cases.
The site quickly seemed to focus on possible Congressional scandals. In August, the blog solicited information about any member of Congress suspected of being a predator.
By September, it began posting e-mails from people claiming to be former interns. They each specifically referenced Mark Foley. On September 24, days before the ABC story ran, Stop Sex Predators posted a few of "the" e-mails, the ones asking what the page wanted for his birthday, etc.
And yet another piece of the puzzle, early last month there was a discussion at Daily Kos about Foley's sexuality. The blog entry referred to a "dirty little secret" that some people knew about Foley.
While some speculated that it was simply that he was gay, one blogger who went by the name "WHInternNOW" wrote:
"Foley's eye for the young boys in the White House and around the Capitol is what has the Republican bosses scared to death."
After ABC ran the initial emails, Brian Ross says he received messages from other pages and interns. One can infer that those sources provided the more elicit instant messages that now have a life of their own on the Web and in cable news.
We have already been given a rough timeline of when GOP leaders became aware of some "over-friendly" emails that Foley may have sent to an underage page. The ongoing debate is centering on what kind of fallout the GOP will endure for the cover up.
But House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Rep. Tom Reynolds, and a handful of staffers were not the only people who knew about this problem.
The digital trail reveals that the story was alive for well over a year, and perhaps longer.
Wrong is wrong, and Foley needed to be exposed in order to protect the teens he may have encountered next. But why did it take so long for this story to surface?
That eerie prediction from Mike Rogers, insinuating that more would be revealed in time for the Midterm election, is alarming.
Have both parties put political advantage ahead of the protection of children?
Why am I even surprised?
© 2006 MSNBC Interactive
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15131701/
Rumors on the web go back to March '05, raises questions about leadership
COMMENTARY
By Tony Maciulis
Senior producer
MSNBC
Updated: 1:25 p.m. PT Oct 4, 2006
ABC's Brian Ross broke the story of Mark Foley's digital escapades with underage boys last Friday. He was the first mainstream journalist to do so, but the story has been circulating on the Internet for over a year.
Washington blogs are notorious for their eyebrow raising gossip. We all remember the joy of reading the blog "The Washingtonienne," by Jessica Cutler. Her saucy stories of Capitol capers became a thinly veiled novel. Anything more than "fiction" would have probably gotten her sued, even though the stories were clearly based on things she witnessed in D.C..
Well, there was also a digital record of the allegations against Mark Foley. I am not referring to Foley being gay. That, it seems, wasn't much of a secret. Rather, it's the specific charge of pursuing underage boys.
The online rumors began, to the extent they can be pieced together, in March of 2005.
On a website called Blogactive, I found this quote:
"Foley is often seen entertaining young men, some of whom appear close to underage."
Later that month, on March 22, this ominous comment from the blogger:
"Everyone already knows Foley's a self-hating closet case.
When we get closer to the midterm elections, I am sure more will surface."
That website is run by a man named Mike Rogers, and the site makes a point of outing gay Republicans and other politicos who are not openly gay. It can be inferred from the second quote that there was something more than sexuality in play for Foley, and the "midterm" reference seems oddly omnipotent right now.
In July of this year, a new website went up called Stop Sex Predators, over at Blogspot. The site was small and generated very little traffic. The first postings stated the mission was to catch predators, and rehashed a few well known cases.
The site quickly seemed to focus on possible Congressional scandals. In August, the blog solicited information about any member of Congress suspected of being a predator.
By September, it began posting e-mails from people claiming to be former interns. They each specifically referenced Mark Foley. On September 24, days before the ABC story ran, Stop Sex Predators posted a few of "the" e-mails, the ones asking what the page wanted for his birthday, etc.
And yet another piece of the puzzle, early last month there was a discussion at Daily Kos about Foley's sexuality. The blog entry referred to a "dirty little secret" that some people knew about Foley.
While some speculated that it was simply that he was gay, one blogger who went by the name "WHInternNOW" wrote:
"Foley's eye for the young boys in the White House and around the Capitol is what has the Republican bosses scared to death."
After ABC ran the initial emails, Brian Ross says he received messages from other pages and interns. One can infer that those sources provided the more elicit instant messages that now have a life of their own on the Web and in cable news.
We have already been given a rough timeline of when GOP leaders became aware of some "over-friendly" emails that Foley may have sent to an underage page. The ongoing debate is centering on what kind of fallout the GOP will endure for the cover up.
But House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Rep. Tom Reynolds, and a handful of staffers were not the only people who knew about this problem.
The digital trail reveals that the story was alive for well over a year, and perhaps longer.
Wrong is wrong, and Foley needed to be exposed in order to protect the teens he may have encountered next. But why did it take so long for this story to surface?
That eerie prediction from Mike Rogers, insinuating that more would be revealed in time for the Midterm election, is alarming.
Have both parties put political advantage ahead of the protection of children?
Why am I even surprised?
© 2006 MSNBC Interactive
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15131701/