selling out / artist growth

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My opinion is fuck making songs for the radio, know your fan base and target your fan base. Make music your fans want to hear, not what the radio is willing to accept. The radio does not give a fuck about any artist, they only care about their ratings and their sponcers. I have always been a Mr. Kee fan. To me when you went from I.T.P.G and fuckin with darkroom to 14k dreams, that was you growing as an artist. after that it seemed you were being held back in one way or another. Always do you, but understand that its your fans who buy your music not radio program directors or D.J.'s.
 
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mi have about 3o singles in the crates lol but ima push one thru kdon with royal t a follow up one with r kelly but not one of them will be on my album need to regain that fan base that stood behind me
You ever tryed to tap into the Southwest/Texas latino market ? I feel you can do great there. A Mr. Kee & Lucky Luciano ALBUM would be a great start.
 
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Selling out to me is rapping about something you do not live/experience/promote just for the sake of trying to get a hit or get more fans/money.

If you're a gangsta ass rapper and you start making club songs and shit because you got a little money and are living that lifestyle too then you not selling out, but if you do it only because you think those type of songs are selling and you want to sell too then it is selling out.

To me it's all about intent and not what you actually rap about. It goes the other way too. If you a common/nas/lupe fiasco ass rapper and you start rapping about some gangsta shit because gangsta shit is hot then you selling out.
 
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"Selling out" is the compromising of (or the perception of compromising) integrity, morality, or principles in exchange for money or "success" (however defined). It is commonly associated with attempts to tailor material to a mainstream audience. Any artist who expands their creative path to encompass a wider audience, as opposed to continuing in the genre and venues of their initial success, may be disdainfully labeled by disapproving fans as a sellout. Sometimes a sellout is seen as a person that is disloyal to one's group that he or she belongs (usually ethnic group) in order to gain money or become "successful". Selling out is often seen as gaining success at the cost of credibility.

ty wikipedia
 

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i dont care if you make songs for the radio as long as theyre good. as long as the quality of the music is good i dont give a shit if you lived what you rap about. your credibility in your "hood" means absolutely jack shit to me. like rick ross for instance, the dude is a complete fraud but he makes good music. thats the only thing that SHOULD matter.

i agree with shea
 
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i would say make a few good radio cuts and the rest all mr.kee raw and uncut...fuck what any one say get the money...thats why u in the game for....keep pushing you have way to much talent not to blow up..its just a matter of the right people hearing ur tracks
 
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Lupe Fiasco is a perfect example of artist growth and not selling out. Even tho his latest albums sounds like some sell out shit, he even admits it and hates it. It was the record label that made him do it. Theres interviews on it.
 
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Making radio friendly music is where the real money is at.

Having a fan base to live comfortable, or simply have a little extra spending money is comparing apples to oranges when it comes to staying underground or cross over to the mainstream. If you have the material for it & have a chance, take it. The mainstream and underground are the same in the sense that we as artist (if we make it) are loved for a limited time only, so might as well go for the jugular vein.

The radio / mainstream don't give a shit about you & at the end of it all neither does the underground. It's about family, not your loyalty to the streets / fan base. The moves we make are based on family and I will tell you this, my kids come before anything, so if the mainstream accepted me and wanted to take me in, you better believe I will milk that cash cow til it bleeds, and invest into something good to remain at that level when I drop out of sight from the music scene.

If the underground could make you rich and provide for your family by supporting, then I'd say different, but it's clear your not content on where your at right now in your career. That's why I say, go for it and only look back at the things worth looking back at. And disregard the rest!
 
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bottom line is the majors laugh at west coast there is no growth because our own radio wont play us we dont support each other so why would the majors push us ?
im not happy selling a few thousand records here or there that feeds you for a few months. only people ive seen on soundscan in the last few years from the coast E40 an DJ Quick. tired of being ghetto gold but dont ever get it twisted like i cant still spit with the best of ya dig lol
 
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You ever tryed to tap into the Southwest/Texas latino market ? I feel you can do great there. A Mr. Kee & Lucky Luciano ALBUM would be a great start.

mayne i had it on lock down there lived with spm for a minute out that way they still got alotta love for me and the lucky album been in the talks just the business isnt right thats my nig tho we got a few tracks in other peoples pocession
 
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seems kinda fucked up to me that u show love to bay rappers by having them on your tape but they dont return the love on theirs! you got heat! not just as a latin rapper!
 
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seems kinda fucked up to me that u show love to bay rappers by having them on your tape but they dont return the love on theirs! you got heat! not just as a latin rapper!
never been featured with a factor on the game/maybe they was hatin maybe they was nervous/ we cant let this latin on a song an straight serve us

-breath-

i adress alot of issues on my new album
 
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seems kinda fucked up to me that u show love to bay rappers by having them on your tape but they dont return the love on theirs! you got heat! not just as a latin rapper!
Same goes for us out here in the 831 who featured a lot of Bay rappers on our albums. No offense to Mr. Kee, but I'm just stating since it's something that's crossed my mind over the years.
 
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to tell u the truth i was suprised to see u on the mista fab son of a pimp! thats how ridiculous it is! should be seeing u on alot of others cds. its a touchy subject for some people but its the truth! your right tho think theyre hatin and scared.
 
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You've done everything you can locally. Focus on Texas because I know first hand what the radio support was like. Reach out to established producers. Don't just make a slap make a hit. Spend a little loot on a HQ video and shop it to MTV BET CMC...all music video outlets. You need visuals my niggs. Have the album of your career waiting when it hits. Like I said before you can be a factor if you had that budget. BTW I dont call much, answer the phone when I do lol 100
 
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man i could throw up hella youtube clips of kee...in the 90's/early 2000 he was the best on mic outta frrisco

today, i feel albums are made for a demographic....rather than jus real true music