Romper Room/Mac Dre on BET "American Gangster" (link)
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if you didn't buy a tape from him, or didn't know anybody that did, then of course you wouldn't have heard anything. If you've heard "Eazy Duz It" you've heard some of the shit that he wrote before NWA. There are several tracks on the album that were already, made recorded and sold before NWA, but because this was his first solo album after Straight Outta Compton, he added the members of NWA to them. The track "We Want Eazy" originally sounded nothing like it did once Dre added the samples and his touch. The concept of that song was from party's where there'd be cats rappin and the crowd would just be there to see Eazy.
It's all good though, I understand what you're saying and everyone is allowed to form their own opinions how they want to. Imma leave it at that cause this thread has gone WAAAAAAY off topic.
It's all good though, I understand what you're saying and everyone is allowed to form their own opinions how they want to. Imma leave it at that cause this thread has gone WAAAAAAY off topic.
Yea I heard "Eazy Duz It" that song slapp...But on the real tho, that gurl MafiaQueen talking bout Eazy was making thousands of dollars selling his shit out the trunk. I highly, HIGHLY doubt it was even close to that. I mean if he had that many songs before Ruthless, why hasn't any of his shit been re-released? It just don't add up to me.
But yea my bad for my part in taking this thread off topic. Then again, there are like three other Mac Dre Romper Room Gang threads going strong so.....
But yea my bad for my part in taking this thread off topic. Then again, there are like three other Mac Dre Romper Room Gang threads going strong so.....
Townbizz and mafiaqueen = when 'civil' debates go wrong, lol.
You two both held your own, but I think there was just a "tad" of miss-communication. But then again, it was like 2am in the fucking morning! lol.
From what I've gathered...
Townbizz's argument: Short is known for pioneering the 'selling tapes out the trunk' independently (all on his own, with NO GUIDANCE from the likes of Heller, or record company execs) concept;and thus attracting the attention of major record labels.
mafiaqueen's argument: Eazy-E was the first to 'create' an independent hip-hop record label (REGARDLESS of Heller's involvement/role), selling millions of records, and making millions in profit; paving the way for the Suge Knights, JT the Bigga Figgas, and Master P's.
Both are pioneers in their own ways.
You two both held your own, but I think there was just a "tad" of miss-communication. But then again, it was like 2am in the fucking morning! lol.
From what I've gathered...
Townbizz's argument: Short is known for pioneering the 'selling tapes out the trunk' independently (all on his own, with NO GUIDANCE from the likes of Heller, or record company execs) concept;and thus attracting the attention of major record labels.
mafiaqueen's argument: Eazy-E was the first to 'create' an independent hip-hop record label (REGARDLESS of Heller's involvement/role), selling millions of records, and making millions in profit; paving the way for the Suge Knights, JT the Bigga Figgas, and Master P's.
Both are pioneers in their own ways.
I'll take over on his behalf. I hope he won't mind.
1. 1988 Life Is...Too Short 37 9 2,060,000
(2x-Platinum) Jive Records
2. August 1, 1990 Short Dog's in the House 20 3 1,195,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
3. July 14, 1992 Shorty The Pimp 6 11 1,704,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
4 October 23, 1993 Get in Where You Fit In 4 1 1,295,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
5. January 24, 1995 Cocktails 6 1 1,459,757
(Platinum) Jive Records
6. June 18, 1996 Gettin' It (Album Number Ten) 3 1 1,311,270
(Platinum) Jive Records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_$hort_discography
Now lets see... thats, 1,2,3,4,5,6. Yup 6 albums.
1. 1988 Life Is...Too Short 37 9 2,060,000
(2x-Platinum) Jive Records
2. August 1, 1990 Short Dog's in the House 20 3 1,195,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
3. July 14, 1992 Shorty The Pimp 6 11 1,704,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
4 October 23, 1993 Get in Where You Fit In 4 1 1,295,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
5. January 24, 1995 Cocktails 6 1 1,459,757
(Platinum) Jive Records
6. June 18, 1996 Gettin' It (Album Number Ten) 3 1 1,311,270
(Platinum) Jive Records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_$hort_discography
Now lets see... thats, 1,2,3,4,5,6. Yup 6 albums.
I'll take over on his behalf. I hope he won't mind.
1. 1988 Life Is...Too Short 37 9 2,060,000
(2x-Platinum) Jive Records
2. August 1, 1990 Short Dog's in the House 20 3 1,195,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
3. July 14, 1992 Shorty The Pimp 6 11 1,704,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
4 October 23, 1993 Get in Where You Fit In 4 1 1,295,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
5. January 24, 1995 Cocktails 6 1 1,459,757
(Platinum) Jive Records
6. June 18, 1996 Gettin' It (Album Number Ten) 3 1 1,311,270
(Platinum) Jive Records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_$hort_discography
Now lets see... thats, 1,2,3,4,5,6. Yup 6 albums.
1. 1988 Life Is...Too Short 37 9 2,060,000
(2x-Platinum) Jive Records
2. August 1, 1990 Short Dog's in the House 20 3 1,195,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
3. July 14, 1992 Shorty The Pimp 6 11 1,704,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
4 October 23, 1993 Get in Where You Fit In 4 1 1,295,000
(Platinum) Jive Records
5. January 24, 1995 Cocktails 6 1 1,459,757
(Platinum) Jive Records
6. June 18, 1996 Gettin' It (Album Number Ten) 3 1 1,311,270
(Platinum) Jive Records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_$hort_discography
Now lets see... thats, 1,2,3,4,5,6. Yup 6 albums.
4 THE RECORD...RUTHLESS RECORDS WAS DISTRIBUTED BY PRIORITY WHICH AT THE TIME WAS CONSIDERED JUST AS MUCH OF A MAJOR LABEL AS INTERSCOPE OR WHATEVER BACC THEN....I DON'T THINK COMPARISON HELPS THE GAME AT ALL...IF YOU ARE CONSIDERED A PIONEER YOU MOST LIKELY ARE RESPECTED BY YOUR PEERS & YOUR FANS 4 THE WORK YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED...& DUE 2 LONGEVITY ICE CUBE IS MY FAVORITE PROFESSIONAL RAP ARTIST SO I'LL SAY THIS...I WAS MAD WHEN HE LEFT NWA BUT AFTER LEARNING THE FACTS I RESPECTED HIM 4 HIS DECISION & HIS AMBITION 2 PURSUE A SOLO CAREER.....AFTER ALL,HE WAS WRITING EASY E'S LYRICS...OF COURSE HE WOULD FEEL HE SHOULD BE PAID LIKE E-Z IF NOT BETTER...THAT'S HUMAN NATURE..100...BACC 2 THE THREAD SUBJECT............
OH YEH...& 4 THE RECORD I KNOW 4 A FACT TOO SHORT SIGNED HIS DEAL WITH JIVE IN 1988 CUZ MY OLDER BROTHER WAS ORIGINALLY FROM OAKLAND & GOT THE EXACT SAME DEAL AS SHORT BECUZ THEY WERE BOTH MANAGED BY A MAN NAMED LIONEL B..MY BROTHERS HOUSE WAS RAIDED THE DAY HIS ALBUM CAME OUT & THAT WAS ONE OF THE ROADBLOCCS IN HIS CAREER...SHORT DID PUT OUT SEVERAL TAPES THAT HE INDEPENDENTLY SOLD CUZ MY BROTHER USED 2 HAVE THEM...I THOUGHT SHORT WAS WEAK AT THE TIME BUT OVER THE YEARS HE EARNED MY RESPECT AS A SOLID MC-NOT JUST ON RECORDINGS BUT IN THE STREETS & IN CONCERT....NWA IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME BECUZ WHEN I MOVED BACC 2 CALIFORNIA FROM PHILLY THEY WERE THE FIRST WEST COAST GROUP I REALLY FOLLOWED & ADMIRED...I GIVE ALL THE PIONEERS THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE & THERE'S REALLY NO NEED 2 COMPARE THEM
COMPREHENSION IS KEY
READ THE WHOLE QUOTE.....THE POINT I WAS MAKING IS THAT USUALLY WHEN BANKS ARE ROBBED(BY BLACC PEOPLE)...MURDER IS NOT THE FOCUS...I HAVE SEEN A LOT MORE MURDERS WITH MY EYES THAN BANKS ROBBED SO I WOULD NEVER SAY BANK ROBBERY IS WORSE THAN MURDER....MURDERS TAKE LIVES....USUALLY BANK ROBBERIES DON'T..UNLESS THE CULPRITS ARE CAUGHT & THEN THE ONLY LIFE TAKEN IS THEIR OWN CUZ THEY GET VERY LONG SENTENCES.....I'VE SEEN PEOPLE TRIED & CONVICTED(4 MURDER) & GET WAY LESS TIME THAN THE FEW PEOPLE I KNOW WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED FOR ROBBING BANKS....MONEY IS MORE VALUABLE IN THE U.S. THAN HUMAN LIFE & THAT'S A SHAME IF YOU ASK ME.....NEXT TIME YOU WANT 2 QUESTION WHAT I FEEL...READ MY POSTS SOBER OR DO A BACCGROUND CHECC & (REAL)IZE WHO YOU ARE TALKING 2 CUZ I USUALLY BACC ALL MY SHIT UP WITH FACTS.....HAPPY OBAMA/KING DAY HOMIE....KEEP IT MOBBY
READ THE WHOLE QUOTE.....THE POINT I WAS MAKING IS THAT USUALLY WHEN BANKS ARE ROBBED(BY BLACC PEOPLE)...MURDER IS NOT THE FOCUS...I HAVE SEEN A LOT MORE MURDERS WITH MY EYES THAN BANKS ROBBED SO I WOULD NEVER SAY BANK ROBBERY IS WORSE THAN MURDER....MURDERS TAKE LIVES....USUALLY BANK ROBBERIES DON'T..UNLESS THE CULPRITS ARE CAUGHT & THEN THE ONLY LIFE TAKEN IS THEIR OWN CUZ THEY GET VERY LONG SENTENCES.....I'VE SEEN PEOPLE TRIED & CONVICTED(4 MURDER) & GET WAY LESS TIME THAN THE FEW PEOPLE I KNOW WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED FOR ROBBING BANKS....MONEY IS MORE VALUABLE IN THE U.S. THAN HUMAN LIFE & THAT'S A SHAME IF YOU ASK ME.....NEXT TIME YOU WANT 2 QUESTION WHAT I FEEL...READ MY POSTS SOBER OR DO A BACCGROUND CHECC & (REAL)IZE WHO YOU ARE TALKING 2 CUZ I USUALLY BACC ALL MY SHIT UP WITH FACTS.....HAPPY OBAMA/KING DAY HOMIE....KEEP IT MOBBY
I feel that Eazy-E just doesn't get as much respect or recognition that he deserves because of how he died. If he would've gotten merked, he would be worshipped and revered like a Pac, Big, JMJ, MD, etc., but since he died of AIDS, people don't mention him or remember him as much as all of these MC's and artists that got merked. I find it very puzzling that Eazy died 10 days after being diagnosed with AIDS. WTF strain did he contract????? Instant AIDS???? His death defied all I know about HIV and AIDS. Hell, Magic Johnson contracted HIV over 15 years ago, and is doing better than ever. Go Figure. Eazy-E was/is the GODFATHER of Gangsta Rap/WestCoast Music. He brought a coalition of artists to the table.......Dr. Dre, Yella, MC Ren, Ice Cube, D.O.C., Arabian Prince, Sir Jinx, Bone Thugs, Compton's Most Wanted, DJ Quik, XZibit, Mack 10, Snoop Dogg, DPG, damn i know i'm missing some. My point is, it's hard to find an successfull artist from SoCal without playing the 6 degrees of Eazy-E game...
Luke Campbell, James Smith (J-Prince) and Eazy have to be the most ignored pioneers in the game. They all singlehandely put the West and the South on a global level in a time where the things they did was strictly taboo As fans and artists, we all owe them a great amount of gratitude. Yeah many came before them, but who made these areas explode like they did?
Above The Law, Kokane, JJ Fad, Will-I-Am(Pre Black Eye Peas), Michele' (Shit any and all Comptons rappers) and so much more are people who Eazy was responsible for giving them their breaks... Eazy -E is hands down the most influential West Coast figure there ever will be. He took the west coast out of the slums and put our movement on front street. He even gave Too Short a national platform by having Short open for NWA back in 89. Alot of cats are too young to remember Too Short and NWA at the Oakland Coliseum, but I remember cause it was huge. Eazy E made the West Coast a phenomenon when it was considered jut a regional sound. Priority took a chance on Eazy not only because he was ground breaking, but Proiority Records at the time was best known as the label that put out the California Grapes (Who remembers that). He made Priority the go to label in the early 90's way before No Limit did. Any nigga front on Eazy is not only ludicrous but just a motherfucka that don't know his history... Boyz in The Hood is still one of the all time greats songs ever recorded, thanks to Ice Cube and Eazy.
Above The Law, Kokane, JJ Fad, Will-I-Am(Pre Black Eye Peas), Michele' (Shit any and all Comptons rappers) and so much more are people who Eazy was responsible for giving them their breaks... Eazy -E is hands down the most influential West Coast figure there ever will be. He took the west coast out of the slums and put our movement on front street. He even gave Too Short a national platform by having Short open for NWA back in 89. Alot of cats are too young to remember Too Short and NWA at the Oakland Coliseum, but I remember cause it was huge. Eazy E made the West Coast a phenomenon when it was considered jut a regional sound. Priority took a chance on Eazy not only because he was ground breaking, but Proiority Records at the time was best known as the label that put out the California Grapes (Who remembers that). He made Priority the go to label in the early 90's way before No Limit did. Any nigga front on Eazy is not only ludicrous but just a motherfucka that don't know his history... Boyz in The Hood is still one of the all time greats songs ever recorded, thanks to Ice Cube and Eazy.
BEING THAT I LIVED IN LA BEFORE I EVER STEPPED FOOT IN THE BAY...I HAD HEARD OF EAZY & DRE & THE WRECCIN CRU BEFORE I HEARD OF SHORT OR ANYONE FROM NORTHERN CALI...I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT 4 E-Z & DUE 2 THE AGE & TIMES I LOVED THE HELL OUT OF HIS MUSIC..THEN I FOUND OUT CUBE WROTE 90% OF HIS LYRICS WHICH SOMEWHAT DISCREDITED HIM AS A RAPPER 2 ME...A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE GIFT OF DELIVERY IN RAP DO NOT WRITE THEIR OWN LYRICS & AS A RAPPER MYSELF I MIGHT RESPECT THE RAPPER WHO CREATES HIS OWN MUSIC FROM SCRATCH & TURNS IT INTO A PRODUCT A LIL MORE THAN THE RAPPER WHO IS JUST SPITTING SOMETHING SOMEONE ELSE HAD 2 WRITE 4 THEM...BUSINESS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SUBJECT...EAZY WAS SO RESPECTED CUZ HE WAS ONE OF THE ONLY BLACC RAPPERS SMART OR LIKEABLE ENOUGH 2 GET THE DEAL HE WANTED AT THE TIME.....IN THE 80'S MOST RAPPERS WERE SELLING THEIR SOULS JUST 2 GET A DEAL OR THAT FIRST CHECC WITH 5 DIGITS ON IT....SOME PEOPLE THINK BIG & OTHERS THINK SMALL...IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORK THEY PUT IN...I FEEL LIKE A PIONEER OF SORTS MYSELF BUT I DEFINITELY GIVE PRAISE 2 ALL THOSE WHO MADE EXAMPLES 4 ME 2 LEARN FROM...COMPARING REGIONS OR RECORD LABELS DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE...JIVE HAS DEFINITELY SOLD MORE RECORDS THAN RUTHLESS....SHIT THEY HAD R. KELLY 4 YEARS BUT ON A RAP LABEL NOTE...E-Z DEFINITELY WAS A PIONEER....RIP...SO IS SHORT & I RESPECT WHAT HE'S DONE 4 THE BAY...THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING PRIDE 4 WHERE YOU'RE FROM...LET'S JUST PUT THE FACTS UP & STOP DISCREDITING PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAVED THE WAY 4 US & MADE THE RAPGAME WHAT IT IS TODAY...I LOVE THEM BOTH 4 NOT CENSORING THEMSELVES & BEING REAL G'S...
@Mr. Cleen. I remember that tour. That was the tour that gave Hip-Hop concerts a black eye until this day. When they hit Kemper Arena in Kansas City. It was like a Royal Rumble inside, and the O.K. corral outside. I was 16 and ended up catching a case the next week, retaliating on some fools that was trippin with me and mines at that concert.....Some nigga tried to jump on the stage and get at Ice T and he caught the dude with a 2-piece before security could grab him....I'll never forget that night....