REESE THOUGHTS on LOCKSMITH & "BAY LOVE"

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Apr 25, 2002
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Earlier I had been reading these posts on the whole Locksmith thing and I was thinking, "Are fools only gonna vote for him cause he from Nor. Cal?, What happened to being tight on the mic?". I got a chance to tune in and really take a look at Locksmith in action, and the boy is dope. He was the better by far of the 2 mc's that stood in the middle of that "battle" ring today in New York. Let me say that shit again for the slow people, LOCKSMITH WAS THE TRUE WINNER. What does that tell us about how the "powers that be" view Cali rap, and more precise Northern Cali. We have seen over these past 15 years, that Southern Cal rap is "the accepted" rap that comes out of Cali. Yea, some of yall will say what about Lynch, Bo, and other cats alomg them calibers. Thats true, BUT, the styles that they are rappin have been pretty much a "Gangsta-Rap" style which the media will say has its roots in So. Cal, even tho we know better.

I respect LOCKSMITH cause he wasnt shoutin out no paticular city, he was announced as being from Northern California, so he was reppin for all of us, from land north of Fresno and all the way up....NORTHERN CALI. We have too many divisions in this shit. Well I'm from San Jose, I'm from Frisco, I'm from Sac, I'm from the "O", etc...... We witnessed today that the East Coast take care of they own, and that encompasses all areas in the Eastern part of the U.S. (where was reignman from? Philly?) Me personally, I dont ride the Bay Car, I would rather say Northern Cali, thats all of us out here in these areas, rep for all or none at all....


Now to these big indie labels out here in Nor. Cali. We have all just witnessed a nationwide broadcast of a rapper who made it to the finals out of a field of 1,000. He has the exposure, he has the skill as we have seen, and he is ready to do his thang. Which one of these "big time" labels gonna step up for the Bay/Nor. Cal and get this man his chance? Cut an album on him and put it out there? Done Deal? Apt. 3? 40 Ounce? MurderDog? Killa Valley? Get Low? Inner City? etc........ Where is the Bay Love? Cause LOCKSMITH is coming back a soldier in this game fresh from NYC puttin it down for us out here with a "Recognize The Bay" t-shirt and all that good shit!!!

Kevin Lyles from Def Jam gave the fat bitch from Jersey his number so he could prolly get something goin for her, one of these big scratch doing thangs indie labels need to get at Locksmith also in my opinion, just like they taking care of theirs, lets take care of ours. If I had bread like that, it would be no problem, a muthafucka would drop LOCK some scratch and put some paperwork on him so we can start recording his shit. I aint got it like that, but I bet a few of these drop-an-album-every-other-week indie labels can do that, once again where is the "Bay Love"?

LOCKSMITH murdered that cat reignman. I wanna give a fat FUCK YOU to MTV for that bullshit. You ask why do I say MTV when all they did was have a vote on-line? Cause there were way more than a few people on that stage that also know as we do that LOCKSMITH won that shit. Them cowards need to speak up. Even Kevin Lyeles from Def Jam said that locksmith ate that boy reign up. Out of all people SWAY couldve said some shit. We all know that reign man got his ass ripped on, but none of them boot-lickin muthafuckas wanted to give the real, and be the one to say, reignman you tight and all that, but today Locksmith got yo ass.....PERIOD. In my humble opinion reignman was no match for Locksmith at all. Lock killed that cat in everyway imaginable.


Well I will conclude my thoughts, by saying this. Who gonna step up to the plate and put Locksmith on? Are these labels gonna drag they feet and wait for another label to do it, then it will never get done at all? Some of these labels have all the resources (Studio, production, scratch) to do an album on old boy right now! If nothin goes down for this cat, it will be the "Bays" loss. Then we will see exactly why some of our most gifted rappers/talents must venture out to other places to get the love and recognition that they couldnt get at home. It will also put that slogan of "Bay Love" on the same level that "Quit the Hatin & start 408'n" is on, the level of not meaning SHIT.


This is just my opinion, my few cents that I felt needed to be put out there. Can I get some feedback?
 
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REAL TALK... this is true.. we ass MC's.. cuz not everybody understands, what that means... if you still dont.. you didnt see locksmith then... thats and MC.. not just writing raps about poppin glocks and take over blocks... METAPHORS,and SIMILE's... word play, verbal acrobatics,comedy... But theez labels out here dont want real Mc's they want cats that got the most pyrex'd cooked lyrics... and uncut beats... That shyt is cool for us.. but what about the rest of the world....Lock is the cat you looking to be in the backpack spots freestylin in a cypher... but he far from that for the cats who know him... as you can see he always wearin a bay t-shirt... We truly need to put or peeps together and say fuck the east coast cats who think they can rap.. freeway is so weak but, he goin platinum.
 
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If I had bread like that, it would be no problem, a muthafucka would drop LOCK some scratch and put some paperwork on him so we can start recording his shit.
THATS THE PROBLEM, NOBODY REALLY OUT HERE GOT SCRATCH TO PUT OUT A ALBUM TO DO MUCH... I KNOW YOU REMEMBER "DAIZE"???? HE WAS ON TRL FOR HOW LONG?? SEEMED LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS, AND MADE IT TO THE FINAL 3 FOR WANNA BE A VJ, HE LOST, CAME HOME EXPECTIN BIG THANGS, I SEEN MONEY GET PUT BEHIND HIM, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF HIS ALBUM WAS BASED AROUND HIM BEING ON TRL, AND PEOPLE WERE CALLIN THE STUDIO EVERYDAY ABOUT HIS ALBUM, WHEREHOUSE, TOWER ETC..., YET PRE-ORDERS CAME BACK AROUND 3000 UNITS??? FACT IS, NOBODY REALLY GONNA PROSPER LIKE THEY WANT TO UNLESS THEY LEAVE THE AREA OR HOOK UP WITH A MAJOR LABEL FROM ANOTHER AREA.... THATS JUST HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.... I WOULD PUT OUT DUDES ALBUM, BUT STILL, WHATS THE ODDS HE ONLY GETS 3000 PRE-ORDERS??? IT TAKES ALOT MORE MONEY THEN YOUD EXPECT TO MAKE THIS CAT BLOW UP OR PROSPER LIKE HE SHOULD... EVEN MORE THEN T HAT 25 GZ HE SHOULDA WON.... IT MAY SEEM LIKE ALL THESE LABELS ARE HAVING MAJOR SCRATCH, BUT I SEEN 1ST HAND, THESE CATS AINT PRESSIN NO 10,000 UNITS EVERY MONTH.... THEY MAY PUT A ALBUM OUT EVERY MONTH, BUT THEY ONLY PRESSING 2-3000 UNITS... ANYONE CAN DO THAT... BUT 2-3000 UNITS DONT GET PLAQUES ON THE WALL... OR MAJOR DEALS... MAYBEE A LIL POPULARITY FROM YOUR TOWN OR AREA, BUT THATS IT...
 
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Perfect Example^^^. Fuck DAIZE, that was some other shit all together. All day I see posts on here on how muthafuccas is doing shit so big, who they was hangin out with, how many Navi's they got wrapped, and where they been and who they been with "In the game". What is "blow-up" to you cuz? So what if that cat dont get more than 3,000 pre-orders? Put him on out there, that all goes back to what you think blowin up is? You know what I've seen first hand? Muthafuccas dont want no other cat to take away none of they "shine". So these labels can put out these albums every other week, and press some shit up, and get no where near no 3,000 pre-orders, but yet they still doin it (pressin and puttin shit out). What you said was just self-defeating, and the whole arguement of what I'm saying. Where is the "BAY LOVE"? So are you saying that these labels are just pretending that they having these lavish parties, and is doin it so big, just to appease the people here on Siccness.Net? It time to put your money where ya mouth is (some of you labels out there). Because to the Country as a whole MTV viewers especially, LOCKSMITH is NOR. CALIFORNIA. Real MC.

@ STIZONSKRILLA- you aint never lied homie. What you said was REAL TALK
 
Jan 19, 2003
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i agree with everything you said except about him signin to a bay label.

Personally i think he should stay away from any bayarea labels if he is serious about blowing up, not tryin to knock bay labels at all. But this day in age to blow up and sell alot you need advertisement and advertisement costs money, i dont know of any bay label that can invest a fell million into locksmith to make him blow on a nationwide level, and thats really what it takes. Rap is as big of a buisness as hollywood , the only way to get on a nationwide level these days to to buy your way into it and the only way to do that is get signed to a big label.....when was the last time you saw someone start up a nothin label and blow the fuck up, shit its proally been 5-10 yrs.


Look at it like this , a label is almost the same as a sports agent. They are the ones that will call up the big names and get you guest apperances or will get you booked on a tv show or radio show. They are the ones that will front you the $100,000 to shoot a video they are the ones that will do commericals for you ect ect. Basically a label alone can make and break you if your trying to get big you much better off signing with a known label that has experiance in producing stars than bayarea labels that have never seen a gold selling artist let alone platnium..

Lock is in the position now where he can get in contact with almost any major label and be like 'hey i know you saw me on mtv the other day, im workin on my new solo album i need a label to back me up'....if your in a position like that you gotta take full advantage, why go half way when he now has the shot to go all out nationwide mainstream radio.

get that $$$$, and i know he'll help the bay get exposure if he blows up, he repped us hard on mtv he kept sayin bayarea non stop just showin us love....the new bay
 
Apr 25, 2002
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I COULD CARE LESS BOUT DAIZE EITHER, I FELT HE FUCCED THAT WHOLE SITUATION OFF HIMSELF.... BUT JUST MAKING A POINT.... I DONT FEEL CATS IS DOIN WHAT THEY SAYIN OUT HERE, SOME ARE, SOME ARE NOT.... LIKE I SAID IN ANOTHER POST, THE RAP GAME IS MORE OF A HUSTLE THESE DAYS THEN EVER, PEOPLE LOOKIN FOR THE QUICC FAST WAY OF GETTIN SOME BREAD.... VERY FEW ARE LOOKIN FOR THAT LONG TERM BREAD, THATS BREAD YOU GOTTA EARN BY PUTTIN ALOT OF TIME IN, ALOT OF MONEY IN, AND EARN, AND PUT OUT QUALITY SHIT.... INSTEAD, "MOST" CATS, GET WHAT THEY CAN FOR FREE OR DISCOUNTED, AND PUT THEY SHIT OUT, AND EXPECT IT TO SELL.... IT DONT WORK THAT WAY.... AND FACT IS, THERE ONLY 3-4 LABELIS IN NORTHERN CALI ON THE INDIPENDANT TIP THAT COULD TO AFFORD TO PUSH THIS CAT LIKE HE NEEDS, ID HAVE TO SELL MY HOUSE, AND STOP ALL OF MY PROJECTS TO "TAKE" A RISK ON HIS PROJECT.... AND PUTTING 100,000 BEHIND HIS NAME STILL DONT MEAN HE GONNA BLOW UP, THERES ALOT MORE TO IT... MAN I KNOW WHAT YOU SAYIN, THERE IS HELLA CATS THAT COULD MAYBEE TRY AND PUSH THIS DUDE, JUST MAKE THE EFFORT TO PUT HIM ON THE MAP AND CARRY US... BUT FACT IS, THIS AREA IS SUCH A GREEDY MONEY HUNGRY AREA.... SOMEONE OR SOMETHING WILL FUCC IT UP.... ITS HAPPEND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.... AND THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT DAIZE UP, CUZ HE HAD THIS SAME TYPE OF OPPETUNITY THATS LOCKSMITH HAS... IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHO HE ENDS UP FUCCIN WITH, AND WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO FOR HIM..... HE DESERVES SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING WITH HIM, IM JUST TELLIN YOU, IT WONT BE ANYONE FROM AROUND HERE...
 
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bay_dezinz - I feel you on what you said, I'm just saying for all these "Bay Love " cries, them cats need to stand up and represnt themselves. Cuz need to go where he gotta go to get to what he gotta do, ya know. If he cant get that out here. You also siad the key words, "LOCK IS IN THE POSITION NOW".....yes he is.

Tact- Real Spit, Tact, I couldnt really find nothing to counter-act that. Yes, its Cut-Throat out here, but to them labels, why not at least try?
 
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^^^ YEAH I FEEL YOU NO DOUBT.... IM SURE PEOPLE GONNA BE HOLLERIN AT HIM, BUT ARE THEY GONNA GET HIM WHAT HE REALLY NEEDS??? I DONT KNOW.... PLUS CATS OUT HERE, YOU AND I KNOW IT, THEY STICK TO THEY OWN... VERY FEW BRANCH OUT TO HELP OR WORK WITH OTHERS, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT HAVE POWER... SO IT MAKES IT EVEN HARDER FOR US SMALL FISH...
 
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put it this way.. the bay area game is fucc'd up... We have dissmissed the TRU MC and embraced the gangsta who only we can relate to.... We need to start looking at cats for what skills they got and not who the hustle wit or what set they claim... Daize from what i hear got flows... but yes he had to be a tru nigga and git ill wit trace on the radio to prove a point... i can feel that.. but dats why cats dont git no where.. unfortunatly SCHMOOZIN is the way you stay in the biz... Cats dont collaborate or let nobody help them wit they tracks cuz they too proud.. you cant be told thats weak and go back to the lab and come back... you gotta put it out anywayz .. cuz you hard headed.. a real MC go back to the Lab like a tru scientist.. comin back wit more ill ass creations like frankenstein... You aint gotta be the hottest.. just be raw... i see so many cats talking about they the hottest shyt... not .."THIS IS SOME OF THE HOITTEST SHYT".. Why we so afraid to go mainstream.. jigga is and he flows... Fat Joe been gangsta so long.. you could never take his credibility away... but i guess since they from the east they got it easier right.. WRONG... South cats dont even have a big old vocabulary.. they just got charizma, and style.. thats what make them who they are... We as bay cats are a PLANET of our own... theres nuthin about us similar to the rest of the world... we are tru innovators in alot of shyt... our slang has been the driving force for about 4-5 years now... but you can clearly see how its easy for them to over look us when the cats wit charizma and style come on the mic using it... whyle we staying hardcore like CB-4.. Gonzo and The Game are from LA but will be looked at for lyrical skills when they drop... not for the same old gangsta shyt snoop droppin... bad Azz and kurupt are the meaning of MC's and as you can see there skills go over looked even by us... do to them being so gangsta and all most of the cats buying records looking for the Sex packet version of being a gangsta thru they lyrics..... Its 2003 either shyt, or git off the pot...

Its 2003/
ya'll still sleepin on me/
steady hating on the flow/
but I'm too tai Chi/
Iron Chef from the west/
you can ask Yao Mingh/
I beat ya bitch oussy up and put her clit in a sling/
No what i mean/
This my year/
Time to do my thing/
I got the best 4 out 7 see i want my ring/
give a blind man site/
from the glare of the bling/
you got crumbs on the table thats all you cupcakes bring/
I got flow so, the doe gone come my way/
100 racks on ya album still you got no play/
when all day niggaz recite lil shyt that i say/
and since i'm G phi G.. you just a gamma ray.
 
Apr 27, 2003
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I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE WE ALL NEED TO STAND THE FUCK UP AND COME THROUGH STOMPIN!!!!

I DIDN'T GET TO SEE IT CAUSE I WAS GETTIN FADED UP @ THE BARBER BUT FROM WHAT EVERYBODY SAYIN I'M DISGUSTED LIKE A MAFUCCA!

THIS SHIT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE AINT SHOWIN LOVE AT ALL! OUR GENERAL'S GONE & IT DON'T LOOK LIKE ANYBODY STEPPING UP TO THE SEAT ANYTIME SOON. SO WE ALL JUST NEED TO ATTACK THESE MAFUCCAS AS WHOLE. A FUCKIN ARMY.

HONESTLY THEY SCARED OF US!!!! LOOK HOW MUCH FUCKIN TALENT WE HAVE!!! LOOK HOW MANY HARD HITTAZ!!! E-40, CELLSKI, B-LEGIT, JT THE BIGGA FIGGA, YUKMOUTH, SPICE 1, C-BO, MAC DRE, MAC MALL, RICHIE RICH, THAT'LL EASILY DEMOLISH EVERY OTHER SIDE!!!!!! WE ALL JUST NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE & HELP THE MAFUCCAS THATS BEEN DOIN IT FOR THE BAY! I'M SORRY TO SAY IT BUT THEY AINT GONE DO IT ON THEY OWN WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION.

AGAIN:
WE ALL NEED TO ATTACK THESE MAFUCCAS AS WHOLE. A FUCKIN ARMY!!!!

FUCK ALL THAT QUICK BUCK QUICK ALBUM BULLSHIT. WE HUSTLERS OUT HERE. WE NEED TO SPREAD OUT & REP LIKE MY NIG CELLKSKI BEEN DOIN!

E-40, CELLSKI, B-LEGIT, JT THE BIGGA FIGGA, YUKMOUTH, SPICE 1, C-BO, MAC DRE, MAC MALL, RICHIE RICH, MR. KEE & F.E., LOCKSMITH Y'ALL GOT MY SUPPORT TO THIS FULLEST. I'M RIDING WITH Y'ALL! DUBS UP!

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GRYME AKA VDUBBLE
$TRICTLY $TACKIN PRODUCTION$
 
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Repping Northern Cali here.........KVE down ta work with many ppl...but like tact says the industry over all is fucked off.....but i dont think its the amount of money that blows you up, but will hlep greatly, but more importantly its the connections you got and how you play'em.......i really think if Droopy would have stuck with us we could have had him a deal, we was in talks with a few majors behind the scene but Droopy came up short on a few deals that could have blown him up....but whos knows, i think itthe contactz not the money
 

Junior

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It's apparent from the get go that the West Coast was getting no love. This wasn't a surprise to anyone since MTV and most of these major labels are based out of New York. We have to keep hustling and winning more of these major exposure events. Keep it in their faces.
 
Apr 20, 2003
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i feel tactout to the fullest, it takes some real loot to make some real loot back in this era of the rap game. the only label that could help this cat locksmith is the sick wid it camp in my opinion. their the only bay label really doin anything major from the bay.
 
Jan 2, 2003
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Damn GRYME all that shit you talkin bout sounds good but you
aint really doin that shit yourself!LET ME XPLANE!!!
You told the homie JAZ that you wanted to drop a track and that
you wanted GANGSTA REESE on it also. We hit you a few times
and you aint got back.THAT WAS LIKE A MONTH OR TWO AGO
HOMIE.sO IF WE GONNA ATTACK LIKE YOU SAID THEN NIGGAZ
NEED TO STOP BULLSHITTIN ,and get shit Crackin.

REESE everything you said was on point, you left no room
for any one to comment any further. GOOD SHIT HOMIE!!!!!!!

ZODIACC TRUE LOC ESSJ:devious: