Raiders trying to sell more stake in team

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Well, they don't play their starters any more than they do against any other team in preseason and I don't notice them playing any harder. You gotta understand the two organizations don't care about each other, especially in a meaningless preseason matchup. The fans are the ones who make it a rivalry, the Niners and raiders players and staffs could care less.
i disagree with that. Its a Bay Area rivalry. By your logic, the Jets and the Giants dont give a fuck who wins when they play. Any team that play near each other no matter the conference have a rivalry of bragging rights.
 

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SHIT WHY WAIT? JUST SWITCH NOW. WE DON'T NEED YOU.
Coming from you that hurts.......But how are they just gonna up and leave.....I'm cool off that shit....I cant stand L.A. teams......especially since we got out of there.......Its the bay area or a no go for me......Im sticking to my roots........Ive been a die hard since 87 C'mon now.......Jay schrador (sp) mark wilson.....Hell i remember when Ray Guy was still punting.......Bo Jackson running down the sideline against cincinati and fucking his hip up.....Then going to Buffalo the next week and getting beat 51-3.......Cuzz im a die hard.....and was at a young age.....
 

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ok... let me ask this question....

you guys say you wouldn't support them because you would have to drive hella far to go to a game

what if you moved somewhere... like outta state... say you had a job opportunity where you could make big money in say... Dallas... for example...

would you become a Cowboys fan?
Nope!! Oakland Raiders would be my time......And direct t.v. sunday ticket would be a must........League pass 2 so i can see my warriors would be a must........But my team bouncing....Fuck em...
 
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Fatal... do you really hate most Raiders fans? It aint that serious... I mean I got hella boys who are Niners fans

Fatal sounds like this guy
Don't get me wrong, the fact that you're a raider fan wouldn't prevent you from being one of my boys. When I said the majority, I meant most, not all. Most of my family are raider fans, I don't hate them, obviously. But it's for that fact that I've been to many raider games and I've been around many raider fans and I find that most of them are just idiots who don't know shit about football but like to talk shit about everyone else's team. They take it to the next level ALL THE FUCKIN TIME. They forget it's a sport and want to get their asses beat over a football team. It is what it is, I just can't stand the way they act. Most of my fam and friends who are raider fans don't even like most raider fans.

By the way, that guy you quoted is just stereotypical, kinda like when you guys say Niner fans can bring the "whine and cheese" to the games. That dude may have been more ignorant, but it's the same shit.
 

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yup... I was 8 years old when they moved back to Oakland

I wasn't really a big Sports fan before that anyways... like I watched sports and liked my teams... but didnt know a lot about it... I still did like the Raiders because my dad was from Oakland and grew up a Raiders fan... and my closest friends liked the Raiders too

I started to really watch them more when they were back in Oakland

And i was 14.....Your still wet behind the ears....

I use to watch college football instead of saturday cartoons when i was 4....
 
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i disagree with that. Its a Bay Area rivalry. By your logic, the Jets and the Giants dont give a fuck who wins when they play. Any team that play near each other no matter the conference have a rivalry of bragging rights.
You can disagree all you want, but go read some interviews with coaches and players. Most of them don't care. I'd link you to some, but I'm too lazy and could care less if you believe me.

By the way, the Giants and Jets are not the same as the Niners and raiders. Those two teams are from the same city AND they play in the same stadium.
 
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I like how raider fans act as if Santa Clara is 6 or 7 hours away and say things like "have fun in Santa Clara." Hahahaha it wouldn't bother me one bit if they move to Santa Clara. They'd still be the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS, they'd just be playing CLOSER to me, which means less time getting home. Not a problem for me. Not at all.

The raiders on the other hand.. You act like there's no chance of them moving to LA. MOTHERFUCKERS, THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE. That should tell you guys something. I wouldn't be all confident saying they aint going nowhere. Learn from history. Our team has never betrayed us and moved away, yours has.
IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. NINER FANS CAN SIT HERE AND HOPE IT WILL, BUT THAT JUST CONFIRMS YOUR HATER/PETTY/GIRLIE NATURE!!!

YOU AND YOUR SOUTH BAY FOLKS WILL BENEFIT FROM THE NINERS MOVING TO SANTA CLARA. GOOD FOR YOU FATAL. THE ENTIRE SF AND NORTH BAY FANBASE WILL BE MISERABLE, PERIOD. THAT'S LIKE A 6 HOUR COMMUTE ROUND-TRIP WITH TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S KARMA FOR ALL THE TRASH YALL STILL TALK ABOUT US MOVING TO LA. THE RAIDERS CAME BACK TO OAKLAND 15 YEARS AGO! FIND SOMETHING NEW TO TALK ABOUT.
 
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IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. NINER FANS CAN SIT HERE AND HOPE IT WILL, BUT THAT JUST CONFIRMS YOUR HATER/PETTY/GIRLIE NATURE!!!
I never said I wanted them to move. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I don't give a flying fuck about your team. If they win, I don't care. If they lose, I don't care. I don't root for or against the raiders unless they're playing the Niners. I don't care if they stay in Oakland or move to Oklahoma. It's not gonna affect me either way. The only thing I'm trying to get across to you is your team has up and left in the past, so what makes you think they won't do it again? You sound real confident about them not betraying you again, but it's just like when your bitch cheats on you.. If they did it once, there's always a chance they'll do it again.

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YOU AND YOUR SOUTH BAY FOLKS WILL BENEFIT FROM THE NINERS MOVING TO SANTA CLARA. GOOD FOR YOU FATAL. THE ENTIRE SF AND NORTH BAY FANBASE WILL BE MISERABLE, PERIOD. THAT'S LIKE A 6 HOUR COMMUTE ROUND-TRIP WITH TRAFFIC.
That shit doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me. I'm just telling you it's cool for me because you seem to think them moving to Santa Clara is going to negatively affect us fans. That's not the case, so find something else to try and throw in our faces.

Whether they stay in SF or move to Santa Clara, they will STILL be a LOCAL team and they will STILL be the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS.


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AND IT'S KARMA FOR ALL THE TRASH YALL STILL TALK ABOUT US MOVING TO LA.
It's karma? What is? Like I said, the Niners aren't leaving the Bay. They never have and they never will. Santa Clara is the South BAY. You seem to think Santa Clara is down south or some shit. Open your eyes dog.

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THE RAIDERS CAME BACK TO OAKLAND 15 YEARS AGO! FIND SOMETHING NEW TO TALK ABOUT.
You act like the discussion is not relevant. It's not our fault there are reports of them moving back to LA every single year. We don't just come out of nowhere and say they're leaving.
 
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I never said I wanted them to move. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I don't give a flying fuck about your team. If they win, I don't care. If they lose, I don't care. I don't root for or against the raiders unless they're playing the Niners. I don't care if they stay in Oakland or move to Oklahoma. It's not gonna affect me either way. The only thing I'm trying to get across to you is your team has up and left in the past, so what makes you think they won't do it again? You sound real confident about them not betraying you again, but it's just like when your bitch cheats on you.. If they did it once, there's always a chance they'll do it again.
IF YOU TRULY DON'T GET A KICK OUT OF THE RAIDERS LOSING, OR THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD POSSIBLY MOVE, YOU ARE IN THE EXTREME MINORITY AMONG NINER FANS. YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I THAT MOST OF YALL LOVE TO SEE US DO BAD AND CONSTANTLY ROOT AGAINST US NO MATTER WHO WE PLAY. IF YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT HOW WE DO DOESN'T AFFECT YOU EITHER WAY, I AINT BUYIN' THAT SHIT. ME AND YOU HAVE BEEN GOING AT IT ON THIS FORUM FOR 6 FUCKIN' YEARS NOW BRUH! COME ON NOW.


That shit doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me. I'm just telling you it's cool for me because you seem to think them moving to Santa Clara is going to negatively affect us fans. That's not the case, so find something else to try and throw in our faces.

Whether they stay in SF or move to Santa Clara, they will STILL be a LOCAL team and they will STILL be the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS.
SOMEWHAT LOCAL YES, BUT IT WILL SUCK FOR NINER FANS IN SF AND THE NORTH BAY. THAT'S 5-6 HOUR COMMUTE BOTH WAYS WITH TRAFFIC. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT SHIT WON'T SUCK??




It's karma? What is? Like I said, the Niners aren't leaving the Bay. They never have and they never will. Santa Clara is the South BAY. You seem to think Santa Clara is down south or some shit. Open your eyes dog.

SEE MY STATEMENT ABOVE.

You act like the discussion is not relevant. It's not our fault there are reports of them moving back to LA every single year. We don't just come out of nowhere and say they're leaving.
THE DISCUSSION IS NOT REALY RELEVENT, EXCEPT AMONG THOSE WHO HATE THE RAIDERS AND WANT TO SEE US MOVE AND THE FANS GET THEIR HEARTS BROKEN AGAIN. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. PERIOD. LA WILL GET AN EXPANSION TEAM. THE RAIDERS WILL STAY IN OAKLAND.
 
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IF YOU TRULY DON'T GET A KICK OUT OF THE RAIDERS LOSING, OR THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD POSSIBLY MOVE, YOU ARE IN THE EXTREME MINORITY AMONG NINER FANS. YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I THAT MOST OF YALL LOVE TO SEE US DO BAD AND CONSTANTLY ROOT AGAINST US NO MATTER WHO WE PLAY. IF YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT WHAT HOW AND WHAT WE DO DOESN'T AFFECT YOU EITHER WAY, I AINT BUYIN' THAT SHIT. ME AND YOU HAVE BEEN GOING AT IT ON THIS FORUM FOR 6 FUCKIN' YEARS NOW BRUH! COME ON NOW.
Come on Solitary I know you can read better than that. I've said countless times I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE RAIDERS ORGANIZATION. I don't care if they win or lose, they're not my team and they're not in our division therefor they are no threat to my team whatsoever. So why would I care about the team? The fans of the raiders are a different story.

If you pay any attention to what causes you and I to go back and forth over the years you'll notice it's because you guys are always saying something about the Niners. I NEVER bash another team until they say something about mine. So the fact you and I have gone back and forth over the years only means that I've been defending my team. In no way does it mean I don't like the raider organization and want them to lose and move away. I can honestly say I could not care any less about the raiders than I do right now. If you can't believe that, oh well. I'm the one not giving a damn so it's all good with me.


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SOMEWHAT LOCAL YES, BUT IT WILL SUCK FOR NINER FANS IN SF AND THE NORTH BAY. THAT'S 5-6 HOUR COMMUTE BOTH WAYS WITH TRAFFIC. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT SHIT WON'T SUCK??
You're acting like it would suck for the majority of Niner fans and that's just not the case. There are a hell of a lot of Niner fans in the south Bay who would benefit from them moving to Santa Clara. You're trying to make it seem as if the team is moving 8 hours away and it would suck for the majority of our fan base and that's simply untrue.

And if you think it's gonna take SF and North Bay heads 5 or 6 hours to get to and from Santa Clara you're trippin homie. It's about 30 minutes from SF and even with traffic it's not gonna take no damn 6 hours. Quit overdoing it to try and prove your point. If the traffic is REAL bad it might tack on an hour or an hour and a half tops, and that's if it's FUCKED UP, but 5 or 6? Get real homie.


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THE DISCUSSION IS NOT REALY RELEVENT, EXCEPT AMONG THOSE WHO HATE THE RAIDERS AND WANT TO SEE US MOVE AND THE FANS GET THEIR HEARTS BROKEN AGAIN.
It's called speculation homie and there's always a REASON for people to suspect the raiders might move. You can stay in denial all you want. You act like it's just people who hate the raiders that bring up the subject. It's the media that does it. Beat writers and columnists alike. Don't even try to tell me the media hates the raiders and wants to see them move, I've heard enough of that "the league is out to get us" bullshit and I don't need to hear the same about the media now.

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IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. PERIOD. LA WILL GET AN EXPANSION TEAM. THE RAIDERS WILL STAY IN OAKLAND.
If that's what's up then great. All I'm saying is I wouldn't be so confident if I were you. If I were a raider fan I'd be lightweight nervous for the simple fact that it's happened before.