question to all these folks bitching about "We want our country back"
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The OP alluded to non-native Americans who say "we want our country [America] back" in his thread title, so P.E. posted a Native map of America and Mexico before European conquest. Then you come in, and since it strikes a chord with you -these Indian land claims, post up the Ancient Roman Empire that spanned the continents of Africa, Europe, and Asia. The only correlation that map has with the OP's allusion to that sentiment by European Americans and P.E.'s Native American map (operative word being American) is that it is an old map of how territory once was parceled up covering a geographical area. Hence the "weak correlation at best".
And the funny thing about it is the empires you posted up are all of one particular racial group entering the ancestral homes of other races and laying claim to their lands, not so with the Native map.
Fuck Egypt's claim, it isn't the original Kemetians making the claim, probably if we were talking about the Kemetians wanting Kemet back from the Arabs I might care, otherwise, land claims across the Atlantic have nothing to do with Natives here in America, and this ironic statement the progeny of their conquerors are so fond of saying, "We want our country back."
And the funny thing about it is the empires you posted up are all of one particular racial group entering the ancestral homes of other races and laying claim to their lands, not so with the Native map.
Fuck Egypt's claim, it isn't the original Kemetians making the claim, probably if we were talking about the Kemetians wanting Kemet back from the Arabs I might care, otherwise, land claims across the Atlantic have nothing to do with Natives here in America, and this ironic statement the progeny of their conquerors are so fond of saying, "We want our country back."
So the fact that the Aztecs claimed portions of their land through warfare and forced unwilling tribes to become part of their territory doesn't dismiss their claim to the land the way it apparently does the Roman Empire's claims or Ottoman Empires claims to land they took by force?
The Aztec empire was as much as an empire over unwilling participants as either of those aforementioned empires were, yet in your mind one has a claim to seized land and the others don't.
Its not what we 'lost' its whats expanding and that's government. My ilk DOES NOT believe in large government or the notion that government is the answer.
Furthermore this administration wants equal outcome and NOT equal opportunity, which pretty much shows that Obama and his ilk are nothing short of Marxists/Socialists.
Thus far Obama has done nothing more then show he concurs with the Marxist/Socialist ideology and I am NOT nor do I believe Marxism or Socialism is the key to a perfect society.
Now, don't get me started on the stimulus package, Obama personally eating up the auto industry and this bullshit socialist health-care crap and were only 9 months into this whack jobs term.
Its either your a socialist or your a person who respects what this nation was founded on and thats NOT equal outcome.
People are totally founded in their dissent for Obama, because people like me don't subscribe to the socialist philosophy and thats exactly what Obama is, a socialist who IMO is trying to tank this economy so he can declare a crisis and implement martial law and declare him self president indefinitely in order to completely rebuild our economic identity as a nation.
Fair enough or are we all just racists like Jimmy Carter claims?
Furthermore this administration wants equal outcome and NOT equal opportunity, which pretty much shows that Obama and his ilk are nothing short of Marxists/Socialists.
Thus far Obama has done nothing more then show he concurs with the Marxist/Socialist ideology and I am NOT nor do I believe Marxism or Socialism is the key to a perfect society.
Now, don't get me started on the stimulus package, Obama personally eating up the auto industry and this bullshit socialist health-care crap and were only 9 months into this whack jobs term.
Its either your a socialist or your a person who respects what this nation was founded on and thats NOT equal outcome.
People are totally founded in their dissent for Obama, because people like me don't subscribe to the socialist philosophy and thats exactly what Obama is, a socialist who IMO is trying to tank this economy so he can declare a crisis and implement martial law and declare him self president indefinitely in order to completely rebuild our economic identity as a nation.
Fair enough or are we all just racists like Jimmy Carter claims?
What is the new administration trying to do that's so radically different from the old, aside from healthcare? They both seem like their spending money we don't have, just in different ways.
Nothing. We were all too busy complaining while simultaneously playing XBOX Live and buying shit on credit that we couldn't pay for.
The American people like you and me fucked the economy by re-electing incompetent and/or corrupt members of congress.
As for the health care thing, dunno. More people cared about investing money in SUV's than in their own health.
Nothing. We were all too busy complaining while simultaneously playing XBOX Live and buying shit on credit that we couldn't pay for.
The American people like you and me fucked the economy by re-electing incompetent and/or corrupt members of congress.
As for the health care thing, dunno. More people cared about investing money in SUV's than in their own health.
Placing the blame just on Obama, IMO, isn't helping. W. Bush was the one who passed congress' bank bailout. Isn't that against the free market?
Me personally, I don't understand how, after the country owes trillions of dollars, the economy going down the drain, the house loan market meltdown, the bank bailouts, the tax cuts, the Iraq War cost, Social Security going broke...HOW can we afford to pay for nationalized healthcare?
Me personally, I don't understand how, after the country owes trillions of dollars, the economy going down the drain, the house loan market meltdown, the bank bailouts, the tax cuts, the Iraq War cost, Social Security going broke...HOW can we afford to pay for nationalized healthcare?
That's all Bill Clinton's fault.
That crazy asshole told people to spend and spend and spend on credit and they did but they couldn't pay for the shit they bought and that in turn killed all manufacturing jobs and that set off the domino effect.
You're right though, Bush didn't stop it and now were fucked.
Obama's stimulus package was really fucked up and that type of spending in one shot is inexcusable and unnecessary and frankly I don't understand what it was supposed to really accomplish. Thus far its nothing more then a payoff to his liberal ilk as far as I'm concerned.
That crazy asshole told people to spend and spend and spend on credit and they did but they couldn't pay for the shit they bought and that in turn killed all manufacturing jobs and that set off the domino effect.
You're right though, Bush didn't stop it and now were fucked.
Obama's stimulus package was really fucked up and that type of spending in one shot is inexcusable and unnecessary and frankly I don't understand what it was supposed to really accomplish. Thus far its nothing more then a payoff to his liberal ilk as far as I'm concerned.
We all need affordable healthcare plain and simple this is a step in the right direction the idea is there the policies maybe not so much.
The WE is not me. I've sold 2 xbox's to help family members pay their morgage and give them extra cash because they lost their job
right now I have no 360
as far as congress that corrupt shit is gonna happen with the exception of a few. I really think they all go were $$$ is.
I don't know about that suv comment I guess that all winds down to personal choice.
The WE is not me. I've sold 2 xbox's to help family members pay their morgage and give them extra cash because they lost their job
right now I have no 360
as far as congress that corrupt shit is gonna happen with the exception of a few. I really think they all go were $$$ is.
I don't know about that suv comment I guess that all winds down to personal choice.
Is it really ALL Clinton's fault? I mean, we were in a recession when H. W. Bush was president.
Bush didn't have to pass that bill that lifted regulation on banks lending money for houses to people who couldn't pay it back.
Our economy was going down the drain and Bush busts out with tax cuts. Now Obama. Where the fuck is the money coming from?
Bush didn't have to pass that bill that lifted regulation on banks lending money for houses to people who couldn't pay it back.
Our economy was going down the drain and Bush busts out with tax cuts. Now Obama. Where the fuck is the money coming from?
It is not logical to expect the country to be out of debt. When Congress spends a billion dollars, they borrow money from the Federal Reserve. So the money must be repaid with interest. However, the Federal Reserve only puts the one billion dollars in, so there is never enough put in the system.
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Does Michael Steele and/or Bobby Jindal not make that statement wrong regardless of anything else about them other than the color of their skin?
I don't like Steele anymore than the next man, but saying that "no black folk or people of color" are campaigning against Obama is categorically inaccurate and wrong.