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does anybody believe that a higher society like the freemasons run shit and democrats and republicans are just an illusion to keep peoples minds off of wuts really going on. cuz to me both parties are equally fucked up they seem the same to me. i dont know maybe im on one haha.
 
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I do not believe that there is a single group that rules over both [or all] parties, but seperate groups at the top of each political party that, regardless of who is nominated, will rule over that politician and all of his associates. However, I do believe that both democrats and republicans are predisposed to money and power, thus sharing into the same agenda. The day someone "sneaks" into office and steps outside of this realm is the day you will see the next assassination.

As for the various elitist groups mentioned in this forum, take it all with a grain of salt, but by no means should you rule it out.
 

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^^ I have some questions for you. Do you believe/think the average rich person did something illegal or "unethical" to obtain their wealth? Do you believe a lot of "legal" money is floating around, and do you believe the guy who has a REALLY nice home, several nice cars etc is into something that can land him in jail?
 
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HERESY said:
^^ I have some questions for you. Do you believe/think the average rich person did something illegal or "unethical" to obtain their wealth? Do you believe a lot of "legal" money is floating around, and do you believe the guy who has a REALLY nice home, several nice cars etc is into something that can land him in jail?
i think most of them did but not all
 
May 13, 2002
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HERESY said:
^^ I have some questions for you. Do you believe/think the average rich person did something illegal or "unethical" to obtain their wealth?
In my eyes, most all of them yes, but I guess it depends on what unethical is defined as.

Do you believe a lot of "legal" money is floating around
Further clarification please.

do you believe the guy who has a REALLY nice home, several nice cars etc is into something that can land him in jail?
Often times yes.

It's also true that a lot of rich people have a number of scams that prevent them from paying taxes (or what they should be paying) and shit like that. The thing is though their accountants/lawyers/financial advisors/etc. helps them so that it is legal, through various loopholes and whatnot.
 

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In my eyes, most all of them yes, but I guess it depends on what unethical is defined as.
Have you watched The Inside Man? Was what the banker did unethical? (He made profits because of his dealings with nazis and their mistreatment of jews.)

Further clarification please.
Legal money as in it was legally obtained. You worked for it, you earned it, it is yours to spend, give away, burn...

Often times yes.
I actually believe this is true for most people. On the real, I believe most people are so blinded by money, that if given the chance they would do something illegal to obtain it.

Also, I know a lot of people with money, and I know a lot of people who are broke. The majority of broke people are not really doing anything "legal" to gain money, and they tend to place a STRONG emphasis on it. The people who do have money place an even stronger emphasis on it.

It's also true that a lot of rich people have a number of scams that prevent them from paying taxes (or what they should be paying) and shit like that. The thing is though their accountants/lawyers/financial advisors/etc. helps them so that it is legal, through various loopholes and whatnot.
So money does equal power....
 
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i think plitical leaders are like puppets and if they disobey orders which rarely happens they get assasinated look at john f kennedy. anybody hear about the "magic bullet"?
 
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Yeah I think it's all run by the Global Eliete and Secret Societies... I mean just look at skull and Bones. They have both presidents on their sides. And Bush has already hired lots of BOnesMen. And Kerry will do the same if he wins.
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Either way Skull and Bone has said no matter who people vote for its s WIN WIN for them.
 
Jul 12, 2002
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I don't know if they rule over the parties but I believe that there is a person/persons that run our country and make all the real decisions, and they have power over individuals like Bush and Kerry because they belong to the same secret societies. I don't believe whole parties are run by these high ups that play the background. Like Michael Ruppert said on the truth & lies of 9-11, "They are playing in a rigged game." Meaning it Bush's win to get in office, etc. were all planned before hand.
 
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The whole world banking system is rigged to keep the owners/controllers of it wealthy and in control. There are only a few countries left who haven't allowed a central bank/world bank into their country and coincedently are listed as terrorist or rogue nations. With their wealth and power they have bought every politician in office. Democrat, republican, libitarian, green, independent it doesn't matter. Until the federal reserve is abolished and lobbying is outlawed every politician can be bought. And any law can be passed as long as you have enough money.

The rothchilds are the richest family in the world and got their money from inventing fractional reserve banking witch creates money out of thin air. The Kennedys got their money from bootlegging and Joe Kennedy made a huge fortune on the stock market crash of 1929. Most of the wealthy elite are unethical and made their money off the blood sweat and tears of others. And most of them are decendents of the familys and royalty that oppressed, enslaved and killed millions. They brought us slavery, oppresion and wars just to increase their power and wealth.