PEOPLE TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM

[miggidy]

Now Young Vicious,
peep my response to Young Akayser.

And while I'm at it, read these exerpts from the Quran:

[4:56] Those that deny our revelations we will burn in fire. No
sooner will their skins be consumed than we shall give them other
skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge, surely Allah is
mighty, wise.

[8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you,
therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the
hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and
strike off every fingertip of them.

[9:5] When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you
find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere
for them.

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for
friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you
takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah
does not guide the unjust people.

You see, I ain't bluffin!
Most of you guys here weren't even aware that this is found in the Quran. THis is something that Islamic schools do not even teach.
Now about Isa meaning Jesus in Arabic, that's not true.
Isa is a different name than Jesus.
Muslim scholars will tell you that Isa was his real birth name, and not Jeshew which is Jesus in Hebrew.

Now about about Jesus's claim being added by some saint, where did you get that?
I heard this weak argument before but that is all contradicted by the Dead Sea Skrolls.
Which were written hundreds of years before that saint Muslims made up even existed.
In the old testament, we clearly see that God is sending the Messiah. You should know this because Islam has borrowed from the Old Testament and even Jews believe in it.
Messiah in Hebrew means -"Son of God"....

Amen....

 

[miggidy]

You know what's funny?
I mean you guys are cool, peaceful folks.
Most Muslims are indeed peaceful people, hell I've been there in the middle of it.
I've been to Malaysia, an Islamic country.
And I know from my girl's family, they are very nice people.

But then you have some assholes, which you'll always have no matter if it's religion, at work, or in the street.
But let me add Ahmad E to the list, who just sent me a PM threatenning my life.
LOL, some people....

 

[Young AKayser]

"Islamic fundamentalists tried to overthrow the afgan government with the help of Pakistan in the late 70s. US president Jimmy Carter has signed a secret contract on 3rd July 1979 to support the opponents of the afghan government. The DVPA asked the soviets for help. "

Exactly, and what was the meaning of this?
To stop the spread of Islam.
Not only that but the shady US government planted the seeds of terrorism in Osama Bin Laden....

I think you got it wrong. The afghan government in the 70s wasn't radical islamic. It was very conservative, they tried to encourage reforms for alphabetization, education, women's rights and so on. Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan was very modern and tolerant and we had even women wearing miniskirts! In the 70s! They wanted to boost the tourist branch, (Bamyan, ski-region near Kabul). But Pakistan and America promoted radical islam by supporting the people that did major resistance against this way of living.

 

[miggidy]

Young Akayser,

That's what I meant when I said that the shady US government planted the seeds of terrorism in Bin Laden.
They knew he would come back to haunt them.
They knew he was going to attack the US, that is the excuse the US needed to wipe out the Afgan government and install their own poppets.
It was all for the oil....

Just like they're doing Saddam.
If these guys only realized that they are being suckered into losing their land, they would change.
My problem with them is that they are attacking the wrong people, civilians.

Look at this shit as the 21 century gold rush.
This time the gold is black....

 

[BlessDaWizeguy]

^LOL @ dood who pm you to threatin' yo life over the internet

that shitz funny a fuc!

 

[Ahmad E]

Re: Re: PEOPLE TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM

Oh man I gotta say something!
Sgt. Fawc You,
First off, I agree with you on one thing.
Most Americans are indeed ignorant when it comes to foreign nations, their culture, religion, etc....
Hence the stupid Texan dumb fucks who murdered an Indian Shiek because he wore a turban. Fucken retards thought he was an Arab Muslim.

Now let me put my surgical gloves on.
How much do you know about Islam?
Did you know that the self proclaimed "Holy prohpet" Mohammed indirectly encouraged evil deeds? Let me explain.
His excuse for "Jihad" is that you must call upon it in self deffense.
Now lets look in deeper.
In the Quran, the "Booty" section to be exact.
There are many rewards for calling out a holy Jihad. These rewards are called booty.
What are they? You are awarded your dead opponents possesions. With Jihad, you are told to force religion on the people you conquer. (When do you ever conquer people in self deffense? Read between the lines people!) If they don't convert to Islam, the so-called Holy prophet instructs Muslims to kill them.
The self proclaimed messenger of God encourages his believers to kill their enemies. He clearly says that any Muslim who makes friends with Christians or Jews is an enemy himself.
In the Quran, he clearly instructs Muslims to kill their enemies.
What are some of the possesions you gain from a slain enemy?
Money, and you are to give Mohammed a percentage of that
of course.
Non-believers are given two options if they don't convert to Islam, pay very high taxes, or decapitation.
Booty doesn't end with just money though.
Mohammed instructs his people to keep their enemies women for sex slaves as long as they are not pregnant.
And what does he say about virgins?
Mohammed made it a law that every time they find virgins, to keep them as child bearing machines for his troops.
To many of his followers, Islam was very attractive.
A lot of people were attracted to Islam just for the booty of Jihad.

The bottom line is that Islam is much more than a religion.
It is a systematic plan for power much like the Illuminati's plan to take over the world.
It was Mohhamed's idea to spread Islam all over the world by any means necessary.
And that's what people like Sadam Hussein are doing today.
Muslim extremists are simply trying to fulfill thier religous instructions. That is why the entire middle east is trying to drive the Jews out of Isreal. The U.S. is Isreal's biggest ally. People like Sadam and Bin Laden hate the US for backing Isreal.
Man that is why the Soviets tried to invade the Afgans in the early 80's. They didn't want Islam to spread into their territory so they decided and failed to take out the bridge, that being Afganistan. If it weren't for the Christians from Europe, the Islamic empire would've conquered all of Europe back in Islams early years.

Look, I know that you are a peaceful person.
Just like my wife, who also happens to be Muslim.
You guys are like this because you follow your religion loosely, as most Muslims do.
You obviously do not follow Islam 100%
If you did, you would be just like Bin Laden.
People think Bin Laden is crazed, but the truth is that he and all the other Islamic terrorists out there, are simply following their religion to the bone.
Sorry bro, I just had to let you know how it is.
Also this goes for everyone else reading this post.

The Quran, instructs you to kill your enemy.
Compare that to the bible who says to love your enemy.
Now you tell me which religion is the real religion of God?

And I haven't even dug up the dirt on the Holy prophet Mohammed.
He married his adopted son's 9 year old daughter. WTF?
He had 4 or 5 wives at the same time, and encourages Muslim men to marry up to 4 women.
But instructs them to kill any woman who sleeps with another man besides her husband. Or kill her if she has sex before marriage.
The dude was illiterate, which explains the many contradictions in the Quran.
Tell me why is it that Muslims are instructed to say a special prayer for Mohammed every time they pray?
Are you telling me that his place in Heaven wasn't secure?
Isn't he supposed to be a messenger of God?
And here's the death blow,
Muslims claim that Jesus's real name was "Isa".
But Isa was only a prophet and not the Messiah.
Well archeologists just uncovered an old lime stone box that housed the remains of James. Jesus's brother in the bible.
In the box you'll find the words "James, son of Joseph and brother of Jesus".
Notice it doesn't read Isa?
Smashing all hopes that Jesus's real name was Isa as claimed by Mohammed. Who tried to low ball Jesus by saying he was a normal man and not the Son of God.

It's 2 things, either Mohammed was lying or he's simply insane.
Now that Mohammed's claim has been proven false, what does this say about the entire Quran?
The whole thing is a fraud.....

My 2 cents....

First off i pm'ed you to see wsup i didnt wanna put it up on the boards, you keepin talkin out your ass like that and we can handle it face to face aint no life threatning jus good ol fashion ass whoopin, many people are amazed by how muslims take their religion seriously,this is what i believe in, i got faith in allah, when you disrespect my prophet and religion thats somethin else and if you still got somethin to say we can handle this like i said off the boards...

this subject gets me going, this dude said he hasnt read the whole koran so take what im sayin know and keep it for knowledge from a cat that has read the koran 12 times from front to back.

from those snippets that you read probably of revron fallwells site or somethin the first one says that all non-believers of islam will go to hell, yes thats what we believe in just like christians believe if you dont believe in christianity your going to hell.....and then the rest are snippets of the koran that we abide with during war time not any war but the religous wars that would have been brought up upon us, which infact later on did during the crusades etc.... those are only during wars, wars that people rage on us, islam is a religion of peace which is now not spread by the sword but by the word, because religous wars are over with....during holy wars it is the word of god that if they dont convert to islam to kill them like i said this was for the religous war days, what do you think they should do release the people so they can comeback and kill you? and about the taxes to mohammed etc... mohammed was not a wealthy man he came from a well know tribe al-quraish he was a business man but not by any means wealthy, mohammed himself said the purest muslim is a poor muslim or a muslim who pays zakat and money does not blind his way on the right path. where the hell did you get that sex slaves thing, your makin up bs, in the muslim religion you cannot have sex with anyone unless you are married, consequences in the old days o fhaving sex with out marriage or sleeping with a married man or married women were stoning to death or excecution.

 

[Ahmad E]

Mohammed was a prophit that until the very end of his life wasnt accepted by his own tribe, because of what he preached since back in the day over there before mohammed all they prayed to was statues etc...he never saw islam grow like it has by the time of his death islam was only the religion in yathrib which is now meddina and a few of the surrounding countries, all his life he was preaching to his people from where he was at to spread the word it took time but surely people believed and spread the word, islam didnt flourish and spread untill the time of his death, when he was alive his own people where looking to kill him because he told them they couldnt pray to their many gods, that theres only one god....


to the part that we follow islam loosely, like you said yourself u aint read the koran only bits and pieces that people pointed out to you or the tv pointed out to you after sept 11, iam a true muslim never dare to say im not in my face, bin laden doesnt follow the rules of islam who give him the right to wage a holy war on america he and two other people said that so its ok, first off america has been very helpful to the muslim world as well as they have not theres a balance but in no way are they waging war on us, suicide is a sin and the act of killing innocent people like you said men with out guns is a sin, children, women and elderly people any time is a sin how is that sugercoating where does he say to go and kill women or children, allah said to kill the non-believers, and thats at times of RELIGOUS WARS men who fought against you!


and now about mohammed and his marriages.....how was he married to his adopted sons 9 year old daughter, first off adoption is against the islamic religion, second this is the story of the 9 year old girl im not sure who it was but i think he was dying lonely man just him and his daughter, and mohammed asked for her hand in marriage so when her dad dies or somethin he woould take care of her, he got engaged with her at the age of 9 and didnt marry her until she was developed, 14 years old i think, now over here in america thats young but why would god make able a female to have a kid at 14 if your religous you know that its not a sin to get married when your developed dotn matter if your 14, but check this he didnt have kids with here none of that, married her and followed his promise he gave to her dad because they were poor didnt have no one, no family and no one to marry her.....most of the women he married where women who needed help he only had babies with a few of them 1or2 of them i believe correct me young ak if im wrong, he married these women to help them out, its not like wut you guys think, over here people associate marriage for sex and other things etc... back in the old days over there people where poor and if their husbands died who would take over the familys expenses? take care of kids? etc.... most of his marriages where helping other people out and allah allowed that. Now the women he loved and was married to was khadeejah who later died shes the one he really loved....

now the prayer your talkin about is "al-tahiyat" which at the end we pray for gods mercy on muhammed and his followers just like you granted mercy on ibrahim and his followers, we are praying for mercy for ourselves, muhammed is in heaven, but people where prayin saying these words for god to give mercy because there where alot of people goin after mohammed and his followers in the begininng..

and last about the Isa thing, mohammed never said isa is his real name thats how much it shows you know about islam your talkin out your ass, Isa means jesus in arabic just like Allah means god in arabic, and mohammed talkin bad bout jesus naw jesus is a messenger from god and his name is in the koran alot mohammed is a man of peace never hated anybody,especially a messenger of god so can i ask you where did you get that from?

and yes us muslims believe that jesus is not the son of god, but a prophet, and if you guys want i can break it down for you on our beliefs on that subject not now tho i wrote way too much.....hope yall got to now a bit more about islam if you read this you read the truth about it,

 

[miggidy]

Re: Re: Re: PEOPLE TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM

First off i pm'ed you to see wsup i didnt wanna put it up on the boards, you keepin talkin out your ass like that and we can handle it face to face aint no life threatning jus good ol fashion ass whoopin, many people are amazed by how muslims take their religion seriously,this is what i believe in, i got faith in allah, when you disrespect my prophet and religion thats somethin else and if you still got somethin to say we can handle this like i said off the boards...

this subject gets me going, this dude said he hasnt read the whole koran so take what im sayin know and keep it for knowledge from a cat that has read the koran 12 times from front to back.

from those snippets that you read probably of revron fallwells site or somethin the first one says that all non-believers of islam will go to hell, yes thats what we believe in just like christians believe if you dont believe in christianity your going to hell.....and then the rest are snippets of the koran that we abide with during war time not any war but the religous wars that would have been brought up upon us, which infact later on did during the crusades etc.... those are only during wars, wars that people rage on us, islam is a religion of peace which is now not spread by the sword but by the word, because religous wars are over with....during holy wars it is the word of god that if they dont convert to islam to kill them like i said this was for the religous war days, what do you think they should do release the people so they can comeback and kill you? and about the taxes to mohammed etc... mohammed was not a wealthy man he came from a well know tribe al-quraish he was a business man but not by any means wealthy, mohammed himself said the purest muslim is a poor muslim or a muslim who pays zakat and money does not blind his way on the right path. where the hell did you get that sex slaves thing, your makin up bs, in the muslim religion you cannot have sex with anyone unless you are married, consequences in the old days o fhaving sex with out marriage or sleeping with a married man or married women were stoning to death or excecution.

First of Koran is not spelled that way son.
It's Qu'ran.
You know damn well that the exerpts I posted are from the Quran. THat is shit that the average Muslim hides from the World.
Like I told you before,
"ALL I DID WAS TO PAINT A PORTRAIT OF YOUR RELIGOUN, IT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE PICTURE"!!!!

And now you want to get violent eh?
Look at how you're underlining what we know about the Islamic radicals who are attacking innocent people!
You feel someone has threattenned your religion, your people, and prophet, and you resort to violence?
THat is exactly what Al Qaeda is doing.
They feel that Muslims are being threatenned and that's why they have launched Jihad against America.

You're biting your own tongue son....

Religion has to change in order to work with other generations.
THat is why your generation of Muslims do not follow Islam like Islamic purists.
You said it yourself, Mohammed gave out those instructions in time of war. What ever the case, it's wrong. If you are a man of God, you will never lay out those instructions.
And hell yeah does Mohammed say that you are to keep your enemies woman for pleasure. He doesn't say it in those words but that's what he means.
And like I said, it's the booty of Jihad.
Read it yourself!

And Mohammed did state to force Islam on your fallen enemies who attack you.
He said everything I've stated.
Look at how you are contradicting yourself by claiming that I made up what I stated in the other post. And later you say that Mohammed said that during times of war and that it no longer applies to you today.
Again, you are contradicting yourself just like Mohammed did.
He sugar coated Jihad by saying that you should only resort to it in self deffense.
That is 100% contradictory!
No man conquers his enemy in self deffense!
Get that through your head!

 

[sgt faWc you]

miggidy ur wife is muslim? wut nationality is she?

 

[miggidy]

Ahmad let me brake this down to you further.
It's true, Mohammed preached that there is one God only.
And not many, like the people around him who prayed to many different idols.

Now about me reading the Quran in pieces.
True but I read it myself!
I read what is important, the differences between the bible.
Because everything else in the Quran was borrowed from the bible.
It is known that Mohammed and his writers had biblical and Judith scriptures in their possesion.
This accounts to the similarity between the quran and the Bible.
But Mohammed gave it his own twist....
Everything in the Quran is a transcript of Mohammed's words.
Who's to say he didn't add his own twist?
No one witnessed his revelations, all what we know is his claims.
No one wittnessed God's help through Mohammed.
Hell, even regular people like Mother Teresa made healing miracles witnessed my thousands!
But Mohammed never made one....
THat raises a red flag in my book, because it is my theory at this point that he created the Quran and not God.

Yes Mohammed was born broke but died a wealthy man.
He hustled his way to the top, which I can't knock on him for doing that. Life is a struggle. The only grip I have is that he decieved many people, until this day.

And about his marriage with Aesha, how can you not know about this if you read the Quran?
Go ahead, ask your mother cuz I'm sure you learned Islam from your parents.
Man she was 9 years old when your Holy Prophet had his eye on her. And yes, she was Mohammed's adopted son's daughter.
Maybe the word "Adoption" hadn't been invented then but that what he did. He looked out after someone else's kid, I forget his name, but Aesha was his daughter.
As a father myself, it makes me sick to my stomache to think someone would try to screw a 9 year old....
As a matter of fact, yeah we're talking about the same girl.
He hit the sack with her after she turned 14 or something.
But to further underline his sex crave over her, remember how he skipped his last night with one of his other wives, to make love to Aesha on his final night?
Take it how you want it but those are the facts....

And thank you for underlining what I said earlier about the Islam's special prayer asking for God's mercy on Mohammed....

And as for Isa,
Like I said before, Islamic scholars will be the first to tell you that Isa and Jesus is not the same name.
Jesus in Hebrew is pronounced -Yahweih-. I forgot how the Hebrews spell it, but it equals = Son of God. Same as Messiah.

Let me ask you this,
In the Quran, it states that Isa is the way to God.
What does that mean to you????

Coincedently, that is similar to what Jesus said "No man gets to God without going through me"....

 

[miggidy]

miggidy ur wife is muslim? wut nationality is she?

Sgt. F.Y.,

She was born in the UK but her family's from Malaysia.
So you can say that she's an Asian Muslim.

Now don't get all this shit wrong bro,
I'm only stating facts here.

We have one common enemy, and that is the United Snakes of Amerikkka!
Lets not divide ourselves just like they want us to.
When I say this United Snakes, I am not reffering to the government and it's people, but the people who manipulate the government.
Who? International Bankers!
The real people in power.
The ones who run the National Reserve, in which in turn creates the currency of the world.
These are the poppet masters of Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.
Who are selling their own people out to Evil.
Let me say this and don't quote me on it.
These people are of Jewish descent, are Brittish, and American.
The people who created the credit concept, income tax, and banks. These people triggered WW1 and WW2. And are in the verge of triggering WW3.
It is an act of pure evil, clearly prophecised in the Book of Revelation.
These people want to establish a global government to tax us making them even more powerful.
These are the same people who assassinated Linclon and Kennedy.
The same people who had Tupac killed....
Also known as The Illuminati....
Pac embraced Killuminati, which hate the Illuminati for creating slavery....

 

[haroon]

wassap- salaam

 

[YoungVicious]

Now don't get all this shit wrong bro,
I'm only stating facts here.

We have one common enemy, and that is the United Snakes of Amerikkka!

I dont think folks was gettin irratated by you stating facts...its good to have somebody backing up their arguments with actual knowledge instead of these ignorant racists saying "fuck arabs". But you werent just stating facts, you were being kinda disrespectful to the religion itself at the same time. And looking at everything you said, I think you kind of miss the whole idea of Islam. I aint a practicing Muslim myself, but I got family who is and I live by the principles, because its the principles of the relgion that pull me to it, not whats actually in the Quran. Islam is a religion of peace, generosity, and brotherly love. Ive never experienced the warmth and acceptance amongst Muslims as I have anywhere else. A Mosque is seriously the only place Ive been to in my life where anybody can come in and feel loved and welcome no matter what their race, dress, look, etc. And being a young black man in a racist country, that means a lot to me.

 

[miggidy]

Young Vicious,

No dawg, it's just the way people took my words.
They felt disrespected because they thought I was just making this up.
I swear that everything I've said is 100% true.
My whole point is that Islam does indeed stress love, but it's got it's skelletons in the closet at the same time. You have to read between the lines.

Faith alone will help you feel loved and at peace no matter what religion you are into.
Look at all these people who feel peace when standing in the middle of stone henge.
It's all in the mind....

 

[Ahmad E]

im tired of this you aint know shit, i speak read and right arabic i know the koran way more than you do, and i dont feel like writing another novel, but u keep and bringin up the same shit, first off did i deny those snippets you took from the koran naw i explained them and what your sayin is exactly what i read in the book fallwell did or one of his companions so get your face out that book and read the koran itself read the whole thing, and i wanna know where is the part in the koran where mohammed says to have sex with your enemies females? haha in the koran it is not mohammed speakin it is allah all mighty, shows how much you know, shit.......

 

[Ahmad E]

now how the fuck is this cat tellin me that im not i real person i aint postin on this no more, i aint readin your emails no more cuz they pointless they make no sense and its exactly echoes of what the haters of islam have been sayin tryna to prove us wrong, i spoke the truth looks like you need to break my comments down to find the answers since you keep bringin shit up again take a class or somethin and dont ever say i practice my religion loosley, this is over you still got shit to say then we can handle this you got the email

 

[miggidy]

im tired of this you aint know shit, i speak read and right arabic i know the koran way more than you do, and i dont feel like writing another novel, but u keep and bringin up the same shit, first off did i deny those snippets you took from the koran naw i explained them and what your sayin is exactly what i read in the book fallwell did or one of his companions so get your face out that book and read the koran itself read the whole thing, and i wanna know where is the part in the koran where mohammed says to have sex with your enemies females? haha in the koran it is not mohammed speakin it is allah all mighty, shows how much you know, shit.......

And who told you that Alah said that?
Mohammed himself.
Everything you know about Alah, you know it through Mohammed.
Go ahead and ignore my questions because you don't have the answers to them.

Check your mail....

 

[Young Bull]

miggidy...

Have you read the Quran in Arabic or in english?

If its the English version, its false plain and simple. Theres plenty of Arabic words than simply can't be explained in English. The arabic language has a bigger and deeper vocabualry structure than english. And its nearly impossible to translate those teachings. I read a little bit of one of the english versions, i wish i never had because it was all kufur (if you know what that means)

bottom line, I dont know where you get your negative information from, but if you can't read arabic. how the fuck you tryin to tell the ones who can read the arabic language what the Quran teaches?

 

[Young AKayser]

^^^^exactly

 

[YoungVicious]

miggidy...

Have you read the Quran in Arabic or in english?

If its the English version, its false plain and simple. Theres plenty of Arabic words than simply can't be explained in English. The arabic language has a bigger and deeper vocabualry structure than english. And its nearly impossible to translate those teachings. I read a little bit of one of the english versions, i wish i never had because it was all kufur (if you know what that means)

bottom line, I dont know where you get your negative information from, but if you can't read arabic. how the fuck you tryin to tell the ones who can read the arabic language what the Quran teaches?

This is a very good point...and Ive studied Arabic myself, so I know what hes talking about.