** Official Batman 3 - The Dark Knight Rises Thread**
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you're behind. While I didn't mention The Killing Joke, I've been making comparisons to Nolan's scripts and TDKR the whole thread.
Anyway, Tom Hardy will likely be playing Hugo Strange or one of his associates.
Anyway, Tom Hardy will likely be playing Hugo Strange or one of his associates.
Rumor: THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Will Be Based on the Graphic Novel PREY
by Dave Trumbore [SIZE=-2]Posted:November 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm[/SIZE]
With the script expected in January and shooting set to start in May of 2011, the rumor mill for The Dark Knight Rises is cranking up. The latest speculation has the movie based on Prey, a story arc in the Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight graphic novel series. As the rumor spread like wildfire across the Internet, the frenzy has driven prices way up and flooded the market with copies of the previously commonplace series.
Prey, written by Doug Moench, is an unofficial follow-up to Frank Miller’s Batman: Year One (which influenced Batman Begins and The Dark Knight). It features prominent Gotham psychiatrist Dr. Hugo Strange (rumored to be played by Tom Hardy), who uses his influence on the mayor to form a task force to capture the vigilante Batman, the object of Strange’s obsession. Heading this task force is the newly promoted Commissioner Gordon, who must weigh his responsibilities to Gotham against his loyalties to Batman. Meanwhile, Dr. Strange deduces Batman’s true identity and plays mind games with him, finally attempting to kill the Dark Knight in order to become him.
While this assumption remains wildly speculative, hit the jump to see why it might have a leg to stand on.
Here’s what we know so far about all things surrounding The Dark Knight Rises:
Not only does Dr. Hugo Strange fit in well with Nolan’s preferred villains, he’s one of Batman’s oldest nemeses, predating both the Joker and Catwoman (more on her in a minute). Strange originally was portrayed as more of a mad scientist, but recently has taken on a psychological and manipulative role, preferring to pull strings from behind the scenes. This would be a fantastic contrast to the in-your-face mayhem of The Joker in The Dark Knight.
Heck, even Catwoman shows up in the graphic novel series. The Dark Knight gave a nod to her inclusion in the next film when Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) quips that Batman’s armor “Should do fine against cats.” We all know how much we love speculating about who will play her! Maybe one of these lovely ladies will get the role of Catwoman while the other portrays the damsel in distress? We’ll have to wait and find out.
So for right now, we’ll call this “educated speculation” since it’s far from being a solid fact. Yes, the storyline meshes well with the end of The Dark Knight. Yes, the villain matches Nolan’s tastes. But I have a couple of issues with this line of thought.
The previous installments of this series have been loosely based on graphic novels, but have put forward an original story. While this doesn’t preclude Prey from being source material, I caution that it might only serve to introduce Dr. Hugo Strange as the villain. And how exactly would it jibe with the title, The Dark Knight Rises?
With that being said, Nolan has mentioned that this will be his last involvement with the franchise and plans on closing out the trilogy. I don’t see Prey providing that final act without tying off storylines that were started in Batman Begins. I, for one, fully expect Talia al Ghul to make not only an appearance, but feature prominently in the plot. Her involvement would refer back to the first movie and could tie up the trilogy quite nicely.
But with Nolan wanting to close out the series with the seeming inclusion of villains smarter than Bruce Wayne, there is the possibility that his secret identity may not stay so secret. Could Nolan do the unthinkable? Will the Batman be publicly unmasked in The Dark Knight Rises? Sacrilege, I know. But what a profound way it would be for Nolan to stamp his claim on the final act of this trilogy.
by Dave Trumbore [SIZE=-2]Posted:November 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm[/SIZE]
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Prey, written by Doug Moench, is an unofficial follow-up to Frank Miller’s Batman: Year One (which influenced Batman Begins and The Dark Knight). It features prominent Gotham psychiatrist Dr. Hugo Strange (rumored to be played by Tom Hardy), who uses his influence on the mayor to form a task force to capture the vigilante Batman, the object of Strange’s obsession. Heading this task force is the newly promoted Commissioner Gordon, who must weigh his responsibilities to Gotham against his loyalties to Batman. Meanwhile, Dr. Strange deduces Batman’s true identity and plays mind games with him, finally attempting to kill the Dark Knight in order to become him.
While this assumption remains wildly speculative, hit the jump to see why it might have a leg to stand on.
- Director Christopher Nolan has made it clear through his previous two installments in the Batman franchise that he prefers gritty, realistic and psychologically driven storylines and villains to over-the-top schlock (see Batman Forever and Batman and Robin).
- Batman Begins and The Dark Knight have both taken influences from existing source material (the previously mentioned Batman: Year One, as well as The Killing Joke, and The Long Halloween) so it’s not a stretch to think they’ll do it again
- Nolan also said he won’t bring back The Joker and The Riddler will not appear.
- The Dark Knight ends (spoiler, but honestly who hasn’t seen this yet?) with Batman running from the law and the citizens of Gotham believing that he killed Harvey Dent. Commissioner Gordon tells his son that they now have to chase Batman.
Not only does Dr. Hugo Strange fit in well with Nolan’s preferred villains, he’s one of Batman’s oldest nemeses, predating both the Joker and Catwoman (more on her in a minute). Strange originally was portrayed as more of a mad scientist, but recently has taken on a psychological and manipulative role, preferring to pull strings from behind the scenes. This would be a fantastic contrast to the in-your-face mayhem of The Joker in The Dark Knight.
Heck, even Catwoman shows up in the graphic novel series. The Dark Knight gave a nod to her inclusion in the next film when Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) quips that Batman’s armor “Should do fine against cats.” We all know how much we love speculating about who will play her! Maybe one of these lovely ladies will get the role of Catwoman while the other portrays the damsel in distress? We’ll have to wait and find out.
The previous installments of this series have been loosely based on graphic novels, but have put forward an original story. While this doesn’t preclude Prey from being source material, I caution that it might only serve to introduce Dr. Hugo Strange as the villain. And how exactly would it jibe with the title, The Dark Knight Rises?
With that being said, Nolan has mentioned that this will be his last involvement with the franchise and plans on closing out the trilogy. I don’t see Prey providing that final act without tying off storylines that were started in Batman Begins. I, for one, fully expect Talia al Ghul to make not only an appearance, but feature prominently in the plot. Her involvement would refer back to the first movie and could tie up the trilogy quite nicely.
But with Nolan wanting to close out the series with the seeming inclusion of villains smarter than Bruce Wayne, there is the possibility that his secret identity may not stay so secret. Could Nolan do the unthinkable? Will the Batman be publicly unmasked in The Dark Knight Rises? Sacrilege, I know. But what a profound way it would be for Nolan to stamp his claim on the final act of this trilogy.
can we just have 120 minutes of batman beating ass and doing cool shit?? like beating ass and saying shit like:
Jeff Bridges in True Grit is just like me. If I had an eyepatch, carried a six-shooter, grew a beard. And was a pussy.
A special weather bulletin to all criminals who think I'd stay inside just because of a stupid snowstorm. LOOK BEHIND YOU.
Alfred, I know you SAID "Two and a Half Men DVDs" but my brain kept hearing "new mop." And wouldn't ya know it, I lost the receipt. Oops.
SEE ALFRED? I TOLD you that Bat-Snowmobile with flamethrower attachment would come in handy
Jingle bells, Batman smells...the Joker didn't get away. He went to the Spinal Cord Injury Unit. Merry Christmas.
Then one foggy Gotham eve, The Batman came to say. "Robin, with your cape so bright, won't you distract my foe tonight?"
Never forget the true reason for the season: Baby Jesus and kicking ass.
Look, kid. I'm not saying Santa isn't real. I'm just saying if he was, he'd be too powerful to go unchecked. And I'd have to take him down.
Strangely enough, Riddler and I exchange gifts every year. He gives me a wrapped gift with a bomb inside. And I give him a brain hemorrhage.
Baking Bat-shaped gingerbread cookies. With festive stealth-black frosting. And sprinkles of VENGEANCE.
Christmas shopping for Robin. Going to be hard to beat last year. I got him a PS3 box. Full of socks. He was so happy he cried all day.
Launched a new charity to help keep ex-cons off the streets. It's called "Stay Off the Streets or You Get Beat in the Face with a Batarang."
Anyone know how to get blood and white clown makeup stains out of tri-weave titanium-dipped Kevlar?
You think your coworkers are nuts? Try visiting the Batcave holiday party.
Sure Gordon, we can get rid of the Batsignal in favor of texting. As soon as we get rid of shaking hands in favor of drop-kicks to the face.
No, Mr. Freeze. I don't need you to "ICE" my "CHRISTMAS COOKIES." How awesome will this rich d-bag think his bat-pool is after my bat-jet fires a bat-missile into it? http://bit.ly/9z4RFC
Alfred hung mistletoe in the cave. If he thinks he's letting another woman in here, all he's getting for Christmas is FIRED.
Is it still called curbstomping if you use the bumper of the Batmobile instead of a curb?
The Batman 12-Step Program. Step 1: I admit you have a problem. Step 2: I beat you until you stop. ... Have yet to need Steps 3-12.
Jeff Bridges in True Grit is just like me. If I had an eyepatch, carried a six-shooter, grew a beard. And was a pussy.
A special weather bulletin to all criminals who think I'd stay inside just because of a stupid snowstorm. LOOK BEHIND YOU.
Alfred, I know you SAID "Two and a Half Men DVDs" but my brain kept hearing "new mop." And wouldn't ya know it, I lost the receipt. Oops.
SEE ALFRED? I TOLD you that Bat-Snowmobile with flamethrower attachment would come in handy
Jingle bells, Batman smells...the Joker didn't get away. He went to the Spinal Cord Injury Unit. Merry Christmas.
Then one foggy Gotham eve, The Batman came to say. "Robin, with your cape so bright, won't you distract my foe tonight?"
Never forget the true reason for the season: Baby Jesus and kicking ass.
Look, kid. I'm not saying Santa isn't real. I'm just saying if he was, he'd be too powerful to go unchecked. And I'd have to take him down.
Strangely enough, Riddler and I exchange gifts every year. He gives me a wrapped gift with a bomb inside. And I give him a brain hemorrhage.
Baking Bat-shaped gingerbread cookies. With festive stealth-black frosting. And sprinkles of VENGEANCE.
Christmas shopping for Robin. Going to be hard to beat last year. I got him a PS3 box. Full of socks. He was so happy he cried all day.
Launched a new charity to help keep ex-cons off the streets. It's called "Stay Off the Streets or You Get Beat in the Face with a Batarang."
Anyone know how to get blood and white clown makeup stains out of tri-weave titanium-dipped Kevlar?
You think your coworkers are nuts? Try visiting the Batcave holiday party.
Sure Gordon, we can get rid of the Batsignal in favor of texting. As soon as we get rid of shaking hands in favor of drop-kicks to the face.
No, Mr. Freeze. I don't need you to "ICE" my "CHRISTMAS COOKIES." How awesome will this rich d-bag think his bat-pool is after my bat-jet fires a bat-missile into it? http://bit.ly/9z4RFC
Alfred hung mistletoe in the cave. If he thinks he's letting another woman in here, all he's getting for Christmas is FIRED.
Is it still called curbstomping if you use the bumper of the Batmobile instead of a curb?
The Batman 12-Step Program. Step 1: I admit you have a problem. Step 2: I beat you until you stop. ... Have yet to need Steps 3-12.
‘Dark Knight Rises’ Rumor Roundup: Eva Green, Naomi Watts, Detroit, Tom Hardy’s Head and More
Posted on Tuesday, January 11th, 2011 by Germain Lussier
As another year clicks by on the calendar, it means we’re that much closer to Christopher Nolan‘s The Dark Knight Rises. The third in Nolan’s Batman trilogy, scheduled for release July 2012, won’t shoot a frame of film for several months yet rumors about it continue to spread. We’ve got a whole bunch today and here…we….go.
Collider is reporting they’ve heard both Eva Green (Casino Royale) and Naomi Watts (King Kong) have been cast as two rumored female leads in the film, Talia al Ghul, daughter of Ra’s al Ghul and Vicki Vale, photojournalist, respectively. They also heard some rumblings about the new Batcave and Batmobile.
Meanwhile, a Chicago blog has run a report that Nolan will not be shooing the movie in the Windy City, instead moving the action to Detroit and several sites are speculating that Tom Hardy‘s latest haircut is confirmation of his role. Right. We break this all down after the jump.
Watts was mentioned on a short list of actresses we heard about a few months ago and she fits the look of Vicky Vale, who could be Bruce Wayne’s love interest now that Rachel Dawes is dead. As for Green, she certainly looks like she could be Ra’s al Ghul’s daughter and bringing that character into the mix would thematically fit into the story Nolan has been telling. So…maybe.
The Collider piece also mentions that principal photography will begin on May 6th and post-production starts November 28th. Michael Caine said as much a few months ago so, again, that sounds possible.
Finally, these unnamed sources also told Collider that the Batmobile, aka The Tumbler, has been redesigned as sleeker and that the Batcave is back, very much the same as in Batman Begins, just with some additions like a Batcomputer and storage for multiple Batsuits. Again, this all makes perfect sense because the Batmobile was destroyed in The Dark Knight and the Batcave has been under construction since the end of Batman Begins, but any one of us could have made these conclusions based on seeing the movies. Of course the Batmobile and Batcave are going to be improved.
Next rumor. Over at ReelChicago, they posted the following brief a few weeks back.
Finally, the funniest rumor is that Tom Hardy is definitely playing Dr. Hugo Strange because he’s been spotted with a shaved head. First of all, the photos on Movieweb don’t even confirm he has a shaved head. It sort of looks like it but, you can’t be sure. Second of all, the guy has been making a ton of movies recently, any one of which might require him to shave his head for reshoots or whatever. Finally, even if he does have to shave his head to play Dr. Hugo Strange, assuming that’s who he is playing, he has at least four months or so before filming. Why would he do it now? Here’s one of the “incriminating” photos.
Those are all the current Dark Knight Rises rumors that are fit to print. Which seem most reasonable to you?
Posted on Tuesday, January 11th, 2011 by Germain Lussier
As another year clicks by on the calendar, it means we’re that much closer to Christopher Nolan‘s The Dark Knight Rises. The third in Nolan’s Batman trilogy, scheduled for release July 2012, won’t shoot a frame of film for several months yet rumors about it continue to spread. We’ve got a whole bunch today and here…we….go.
Collider is reporting they’ve heard both Eva Green (Casino Royale) and Naomi Watts (King Kong) have been cast as two rumored female leads in the film, Talia al Ghul, daughter of Ra’s al Ghul and Vicki Vale, photojournalist, respectively. They also heard some rumblings about the new Batcave and Batmobile.
Meanwhile, a Chicago blog has run a report that Nolan will not be shooing the movie in the Windy City, instead moving the action to Detroit and several sites are speculating that Tom Hardy‘s latest haircut is confirmation of his role. Right. We break this all down after the jump.
We’ll start with the most plausible rumor and work our way down. Collider quotes unnamed, trusted sources as the people behind the information on the Eva Green and Naomi Watts castings. However the site is quick to point out that neither Nolan or Warner Brothers will confirm anything ever so whether it’s true or not, there’s no way yet to tell. But everything does kind of fit.Watts was mentioned on a short list of actresses we heard about a few months ago and she fits the look of Vicky Vale, who could be Bruce Wayne’s love interest now that Rachel Dawes is dead. As for Green, she certainly looks like she could be Ra’s al Ghul’s daughter and bringing that character into the mix would thematically fit into the story Nolan has been telling. So…maybe.
The Collider piece also mentions that principal photography will begin on May 6th and post-production starts November 28th. Michael Caine said as much a few months ago so, again, that sounds possible.
Finally, these unnamed sources also told Collider that the Batmobile, aka The Tumbler, has been redesigned as sleeker and that the Batcave is back, very much the same as in Batman Begins, just with some additions like a Batcomputer and storage for multiple Batsuits. Again, this all makes perfect sense because the Batmobile was destroyed in The Dark Knight and the Batcave has been under construction since the end of Batman Begins, but any one of us could have made these conclusions based on seeing the movies. Of course the Batmobile and Batcave are going to be improved.
Next rumor. Over at ReelChicago, they posted the following brief a few weeks back.
SORRY TO SAY that Detroit won out over Chicago as a location for writer/director Christopher Nolan’s latest “Batman” entry, “The Dark Knight Rises.” Instead of shooting here, as originally announced, the movie will film in Detroit. Starting in May, it also will shoot in New Orleans, and two locations in the UK.
There’s no source for that information but it doesn’t make sense. We’ve heard the New Orleans rumors, and if Batman went to Hong Kong in the last film, maybe he goes to the UK this time around but Nolan’s Gotham is Chicago, plain and simple. Budget certainly isn’t an issue and the city of Chicago has obviously welcomed big productions with open arms recently (Michael Bay basically blew the city up for Transformers: Dark of the Moon) so who knows what this lady is talking about. Still, she was confident enough to print it, so maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not.
Finally, the funniest rumor is that Tom Hardy is definitely playing Dr. Hugo Strange because he’s been spotted with a shaved head. First of all, the photos on Movieweb don’t even confirm he has a shaved head. It sort of looks like it but, you can’t be sure. Second of all, the guy has been making a ton of movies recently, any one of which might require him to shave his head for reshoots or whatever. Finally, even if he does have to shave his head to play Dr. Hugo Strange, assuming that’s who he is playing, he has at least four months or so before filming. Why would he do it now? Here’s one of the “incriminating” photos.
Those are all the current Dark Knight Rises rumors that are fit to print. Which seem most reasonable to you?
There's more.
New ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Actress Shortlist Features Knightley, Hathaway, Biel and Others
Posted on Tuesday, January 11th, 2011 by Germain Lussier
It seems like only minutes ago when we were talking about Eva Green and Naomi Watts being cast in The Dark Knight Rises. Oh, wait, it was. Hot on the heels of Collider’s initial report, The Hollywood Reporter has come to the plate with their own short list of actresses vying for the two female leads in Christopher Nolan‘s third Batman film and neither Green or Watts are on the list. Their list includes Keira Knightley, Anne Hathaway (who have both already been mentioned) Jessica Biel, Kate Mara, Charlotte Riley and Gemma Arterton. Reportedly, each one of these actresses has a scheduled test for the film in the next two weeks. Read more after the jump.
According to the Hollywood Reporter, Arterton might have to remove herself from contention because she’s recently accepted the lead in Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters, which will probably create a scheduling conflict. And while most of us are very familiar with the likes of Biel, Knightley and Hathaway, we might be less familiar with Kate Mara or especially Charlotte Riley. Mara is the sister of Rooney Mara (A Nightmare on Elm Street, The Social Network, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo remake) and had supporting roles in Iron Man 2, Shooter and most recently in 127 Hours. Riley is a British television actress who just happens to be married to Tom Hardy, who has already been cast in the film.
What’s also confirmed in the piece is that the two female roles are for a love interest and a villain and that the villain is more than likely the daughter of Ra’s Al Ghul, which is what Collider reported earlier today.
The good news is that with a May start date and casting currently happening, it’s only a matter of time before we get an official announcement.
Posted on Tuesday, January 11th, 2011 by Germain Lussier
It seems like only minutes ago when we were talking about Eva Green and Naomi Watts being cast in The Dark Knight Rises. Oh, wait, it was. Hot on the heels of Collider’s initial report, The Hollywood Reporter has come to the plate with their own short list of actresses vying for the two female leads in Christopher Nolan‘s third Batman film and neither Green or Watts are on the list. Their list includes Keira Knightley, Anne Hathaway (who have both already been mentioned) Jessica Biel, Kate Mara, Charlotte Riley and Gemma Arterton. Reportedly, each one of these actresses has a scheduled test for the film in the next two weeks. Read more after the jump.
According to the Hollywood Reporter, Arterton might have to remove herself from contention because she’s recently accepted the lead in Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters, which will probably create a scheduling conflict. And while most of us are very familiar with the likes of Biel, Knightley and Hathaway, we might be less familiar with Kate Mara or especially Charlotte Riley. Mara is the sister of Rooney Mara (A Nightmare on Elm Street, The Social Network, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo remake) and had supporting roles in Iron Man 2, Shooter and most recently in 127 Hours. Riley is a British television actress who just happens to be married to Tom Hardy, who has already been cast in the film.
What’s also confirmed in the piece is that the two female roles are for a love interest and a villain and that the villain is more than likely the daughter of Ra’s Al Ghul, which is what Collider reported earlier today.
Where does this leave us, Bat-Fans? Your guess is as good as mine. But considering the trust Collider had in their sources coupled with the general accuracy of The Hollywood Reporter, I’d be willing to bet that Eva Green and Naomi Watts have indeed read for these roles and that the aforementioned actresses (which do kind of fall into either the tall blond or sultry brunette categories) are next on the list.The good news is that with a May start date and casting currently happening, it’s only a matter of time before we get an official announcement.