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Do you have an article about the runners tax plans from a non partisan studied group? No?

You're blinded by the republican badge you wear. Why do the facts hate freedom?!

You keep believeing that bs! You just watch! He's a liar! Trust me he will raise our taxes big time. Y ou are just falling into his plan.
 
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@Chicago54 - who the fuck do you think you are?

Are you assuming due to my short response that I am unfamiliar with Obama's policies and what he plans to actually do? Do you assume me a blind follower of Obama and his viral movement? F-U-C-K-Y-O-U.

You sir are a piece of shit. ONLY TRULY NEO-CONSERVATIVES have a rational reason to vote for McCain over Obama. I'm glad you're voting for McCain because when McCain LOSES you're gonna be real fuckin sad for a while. Do you understand the implications of MCCAIN'S tax cuts? 6.8 TRILLION dollar increased deficit. Vs. OBAMA'S 3.1 Trillion for his cuts for under $250K incomes and hefty increases for over $1M.

The fuck kind of voter are you? Cuz you're definitely not a fucking fiscal conservative thats for sure! You wanna keep fighting a war we shouldn't have fucking been in in the first place? You wanna waste billions overseas with other countries and independent contractors? You wanna keep dishing out corporate welfare to fill their fucking executive's pockets so the rich get richer and the middle and lower class don't see a goddamn fucking cent and get raped when costs of everything increase? You wanna give tax breaks to companies who ship their jobs overseas so that american workers who are out of work can afford the slightly reduced cost of that company's product because by shipping jobs overseas increased their profit margins 5fold? Even though those who lose the job don't have any fucking money to buy anything when they're out of work?

So much shit is wrong with your head.


YOU FUCKING ACT LIKE HE'S STEALING FROM THE RICH AND GIVING TO THE POOR.
YOU FUCKING IMBECILE. THE TAX BREAKS ARE FOR WORKING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS FUCKFACE.

WORKING FAMILIES. WORKING MOTHERFUCKING FAMILIES. IS THAT TOO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND? ITS NOT GODDAMN WELFARE THAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO. ITS SO WE CAN FUCKING SURVIVE IN THIS CHANGING ECONOMY WHEN SHIT GETS TOUGH.

YOU WANNA FUCKING TELL ME "TOUGH LUCK... SHOULDA FOCUSED ON GETTING MONEY" RIGHT? FUCK YOU SIR. FUCK YOU AND YOUR BENZ OR WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU OWN.


AND YOUR RESPONSE WILL CONTAIN: "YOU SOUND LIKE A DUMBASS CUSSING LIKE A BABY STOP WHINING LIBERAL."

no you fucking cunt I hope you die.
your mentality needs to die. because if it doesn't then people like you in general need to get a better fucking idea of SOCIETY... either that or go fuck yourself with silverware.

Damn you sure sound like a die hard Obama fan! You sound like you are in love with the dude. He sure has transformed you that's for sure.
Wow!! What a joke! YOu th ink your bs you just wrote is going to get me to change? Obama is vert risky because no one knows what he will do or what he exactly stands for. He's shady as hell. He will probably win because everyone is all his nuts because he promises change. The problem is that we are the ones that will be paying for his change to give more money to people that don't want to work. That's ok for y ou? Not me man!. I work too hard for my skrilla and I don't work to pay for those that don't want to work. You can argue it all you want, but this is part of what it's about. We all have an opportunity to get a job and work we all have a chance to make what we want to make out of it too.
 
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nah i don't try to change the minds of douchebags... I just make it a point that they are what they are.

yea you can just call me a die-hard-fan keep believing that I have no grounds and I'm just following the crowd.

nah I aint calm about shit like this either. you sound like a lil bitch who hangs onto your views without giving any consideration to others.

I will go off and do whatever the fuck I want when a dumbass is trying to spread bullshit misinformation and disenfranchise voters from voting a certain way.





Aite you sack of shit, "Obama is very risky because no one knows what he will do or what he exactly stands for. He's shady as hell. He will probably win because everyone is all his nuts because he promises change"

Are you fucking kidding me?
You're a terrible judge of character.
Obama is shady as hell? how the fuck is he shady?
Obviously you gotta fuckin promise change to win the election.
McCain adopted the exact same shit!
Cept he voted with Bush MORE AND MORE leading up to 2008!

BARACK OBAMA was one of the few goddamn people in congress who KNEW the fucking war in Iraq was a terrible fucking idea.

AS DID I AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE.

Take your conservative talking points to a place that gives a fuck.
I can chop it up with a conservative who speaks sensibly.

YOU are a fucking device of the propaganda machine.
I HATE YOU and ALL YOUR KIND

AND THAT'S JUSTIFIED BECAUSE YOU JUST LAID OUT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT.



"WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR HIS CHANGE!" FALSE. He's not gonna fucking drive up the deficit without having a plan to bring it down.

SECONDLY, how much fuckin money do you make?

Because honestly I personally don't give a fuck if rich people lose money from this tax hike back to clinton percentages for higher income. Tax cuts for the richest 1% of america... OH YEAH THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP OUR ECONOMY JOHN! REALLY!

Trickle-down economics much? Once again fuck you and your blindness. Didn't you fucking get the memo? It's a load of BULLSHIT.





HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE EVERY YEAR? Because if you make enough to actually have your tax increased... I don't give a fuck you owe something back to this country... and the impact the tax has on you should be the same impact that it has on me.

IF YOU MAKE ENOUGH to get ur tax to go up... then you're not really gonna fucking be affected by this shit. Oh you might have to skip out on that M3 you wanted to cop for your daughter... nah might have to settle for a 3 or 5 series...

Seriously shut the fuck up.
I have every fucking right to be angry about your bullshit.

and any of you wanna say shit to me about CALM DOWN this is THE INTERNET

Go right the fuck ahead it makes a lot of sense.
I'm still angry about a LOT of shit caused by this administration.

That includes the unneccessary death of over 4,000 of our men/women from the war.
That includes the shitty standing we have in the world.
That includes the hardcore partisan executive branch with no fucking checks and balances to stop them
That includes the war which was fucking ILLLEGAL to begin with because CONGRESS declares war not the motherfucking president.
That includes the complete fucking disregard for human rights.
That includes people being fucking taken into custody for NO FUCKING REASON because of the color of their skin FOR MONTHS OR YEARS!!!!! OR EVEN DEPORTED BECAUSE OF THEIR NAME.

THAT IS NOT AMERICA.


lastly... LOL "DIE HARD OBAMA 'FAN'??"


motherfucker I'm a DEMOCRAT. IN PRINCIPLE AND IN PRACTICE.

AND YES THERE MAY BE A DAY I VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE I HOLD POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY SAY.

I WILL GUARANTEE BARACK OBAMA WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS WILL DO.

how do I know? I don't. I'm a really fuckin good judge of character and thats all there is to it. Now before you knock down my statements I just made...

Wait till April or May of next year and we'll see what he has done/begun.




Lastly... about that "we all gotta work for what we wanna get"

the whole fucking point of all this... is that american's right now are not working for what they want or anything of that sort...

REAL AMERICANS - THE MIDDLE CLASS (i ono if you're in that... i doubt it) we fucking work to sustain, stay alive and stay afloat in these times.

"We all have an opportunity to get a job and work we all have a chance to make what we want to make out of it too."

You make it sound like I want a handout from the government.NO I want some goddamn support when working as hard as you fucking can JUST DOESN'T CUT IT.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT!?

and don't worry WHEN I'M MAKING 400K a year... I will gladly give away 40 % to taxes. KEYWORD GLADLY.
 
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nah i don't try to change the minds of douchebags... I just make it a point that they are what they are.

yea you can just call me a die-hard-fan keep believing that I have no grounds and I'm just following the crowd.

nah I aint calm about shit like this either. you sound like a lil bitch who hangs onto your views without giving any consideration to others.

I will go off and do whatever the fuck I want when a dumbass is trying to spread bullshit misinformation and disenfranchise voters from voting a certain way.





Aite you sack of shit, "Obama is very risky because no one knows what he will do or what he exactly stands for. He's shady as hell. He will probably win because everyone is all his nuts because he promises change"

Are you fucking kidding me?
You're a terrible judge of character.
Obama is shady as hell? how the fuck is he shady?
Obviously you gotta fuckin promise change to win the election.
McCain adopted the exact same shit!
Cept he voted with Bush MORE AND MORE leading up to 2008!

BARACK OBAMA was one of the few goddamn people in congress who KNEW the fucking war in Iraq was a terrible fucking idea.

AS DID I AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE.

Take your conservative talking points to a place that gives a fuck.
I can chop it up with a conservative who speaks sensibly.

YOU are a fucking device of the propaganda machine.
I HATE YOU and ALL YOUR KIND

AND THAT'S JUSTIFIED BECAUSE YOU JUST LAID OUT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT.



"WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR HIS CHANGE!" FALSE. He's not gonna fucking drive up the deficit without having a plan to bring it down.

SECONDLY, how much fuckin money do you make?

Because honestly I personally don't give a fuck if rich people lose money from this tax hike back to clinton percentages for higher income. Tax cuts for the richest 1% of america... OH YEAH THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP OUR ECONOMY JOHN! REALLY!

Trickle-down economics much? Once again fuck you and your blindness. Didn't you fucking get the memo? It's a load of BULLSHIT.





HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE EVERY YEAR? Because if you make enough to actually have your tax increased... I don't give a fuck you owe something back to this country... and the impact the tax has on you should be the same impact that it has on me.

IF YOU MAKE ENOUGH to get ur tax to go up... then you're not really gonna fucking be affected by this shit. Oh you might have to skip out on that M3 you wanted to cop for your daughter... nah might have to settle for a 3 or 5 series...

Seriously shut the fuck up.
I have every fucking right to be angry about your bullshit.

and any of you wanna say shit to me about CALM DOWN this is THE INTERNET

Go right the fuck ahead it makes a lot of sense.
I'm still angry about a LOT of shit caused by this administration.

That includes the unneccessary death of over 4,000 of our men/women from the war.
That includes the shitty standing we have in the world.
That includes the hardcore partisan executive branch with no fucking checks and balances to stop them
That includes the war which was fucking ILLLEGAL to begin with because CONGRESS declares war not the motherfucking president.
That includes the complete fucking disregard for human rights.
That includes people being fucking taken into custody for NO FUCKING REASON because of the color of their skin FOR MONTHS OR YEARS!!!!! OR EVEN DEPORTED BECAUSE OF THEIR NAME.

THAT IS NOT AMERICA.


lastly... LOL "DIE HARD OBAMA 'FAN'??"


motherfucker I'm a DEMOCRAT. IN PRINCIPLE AND IN PRACTICE.

AND YES THERE MAY BE A DAY I VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE I HOLD POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY SAY.

I WILL GUARANTEE BARACK OBAMA WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS WILL DO.

how do I know? I don't. I'm a really fuckin good judge of character and thats all there is to it. Now before you knock down my statements I just made...

Wait till April or May of next year and we'll see what he has done/begun.




Lastly... about that "we all gotta work for what we wanna get"

the whole fucking point of all this... is that american's right now are not working for what they want or anything of that sort...

REAL AMERICANS - THE MIDDLE CLASS (i ono if you're in that... i doubt it) we fucking work to sustain, stay alive and stay afloat in these times.

"We all have an opportunity to get a job and work we all have a chance to make what we want to make out of it too."

You make it sound like I want a handout from the government.NO I want some goddamn support when working as hard as you fucking can JUST DOESN'T CUT IT.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT!?

and don't worry WHEN I'M MAKING 400K a year... I will gladly give away 40 % to taxes. KEYWORD GLADLY.
That's a bunch of bs! The more you make shouldn't mean the more you give back jack! That's crap! So those that work their asses off in college get a mesaters degree, thoise that are doctors, the ones that spend a lot of money to be successful where they are today should end up getting fucked and having to pay more now? That's just a twisted way to think of things. Trust me, if you worked hard your whole life and have a great job making 300k a year, you wouldn't and shouldn't want to pay tons of taxes to help others out. Fuck that! Be your own may and you can make or break your sucess in this world. I work hard and want to be successful for me and mine. I don't want my money going to pay for someone that is too lazy to work. With Obamas system, you will have a lot of people that won't want to work because they will get a good amount of $ where they won't have to. Nice society there! I guarantee you that if you make $50k-$100k that they will end up paying a lot more taxes too. You just wait and open up yor eyes! He says that he will cut taxes for those people that don't work and those that don't make much money anyways. Those people today pay the least amount of taxes to begin with so why have them pay less? They are the only ones that benefit. Fuck it maybe I should just quit my job and live off of everyone else!

Wow, Obama wants to end the war. That's why everyone wants him to win? I am not necessarily in favor of the war, but with Obama our county will be a push over and we will get bombed on our own soil again. It's sort of a tough subject.....I'm not in favor of the war nesessarily, but something has to be done though. This is your only reason why you want Obama to win?
 
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lol, you're such a joke it makes no sense replying to your "arguments." It's all made up, and you follow it blindly. Congrats on being another addition to the vast sheeple in america.
 
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^^ you're the joke! Keep following in line as the others....begging for change when nothing is going to change except our taxes increasing.

Anyways, I'm done with this. I made my points you guys made yours too. We all have our opinions here and that's not going to change.
 
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First off A-Wolf, tight track.

OK, we're all Americans here so everyone has the right to express their own opinions and vote how they see fit. BUT as a blue collar working American, Obama's plan seems to work best for me and my family. Companies that don't create work in the United States should not be getting tax beaks for shipping jobs overseas. Our economy is suffering and we need to do whats best for everyone here. Obama's plan calls for tax breaks for people making less that 250K a year. Even small businesses that make over 250k will only be taxed on the portion OVER 250k, for example a small business that makes 300k will only be taxed on the 50k over 250k.. They'll still recieve credits for the 250k earning. Companies that keep jobs in the US will also get a tax break for every new job created for AMERICANS.

Exxon Mobile set record breaking profits just this week, shattering their own previous profit record, they don't need any goverment assistance. A lot of Rebuplicans are even voting for Obama because they don't have faith in McCain. What is McCain talking about besides what Obama is going to do? McCain has not been clear on his economic, education, and energy plans. Drill Baby Drill, what ELSE?!?!? 5k for healthcare wont be enough for the average American family. Companies will be forced to look for more profitable places to set up shop. You're going to be forced to buy coverage in cheaper areas, when the companies turn around and move to jack up the price.

McCain's judgement comes into question when you see who he chose as his running mate and other people to surround himself with. Obama surrounds himself with the most knowledable people whether Republican or Democrat. Joe Biden has a wealth of experience with Foreign Policy, Warren Buffet is an economic master, Colin Powel is an experienced Military advisor. Palin... literally just a joke. No real master of goverment policies or basic knowledge of the Constitution. Obama was a Professor at Harvard teaching Constitutional Law.

Obama has the charisma to mend relations back with out Allies. We need to stop looking like Bullies and more like the Powerful country we are. All media is biased, so you have to keep yourself informed by looking into each candidates plans. Don't rely on what Fox, MSNBC, or CNN tell you. Learn these things for yourself and go out on Tuesday and vote for what candiate has yours and the country's best intertests in mind.

Just my 2 cents
 
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First off A-Wolf, tight track.

OK, we're all Americans here so everyone has the right to express their own opinions and vote how they see fit. BUT as a blue collar working American, Obama's plan seems to work best for me and my family. Companies that don't create work in the United States should not be getting tax beaks for shipping jobs overseas. Our economy is suffering and we need to do whats best for everyone here. Obama's plan calls for tax breaks for people making less that 250K a year. Even small businesses that make over 250k will only be taxed on the portion OVER 250k, for example a small business that makes 300k will only be taxed on the 50k over 250k.. They'll still recieve credits for the 250k earning. Companies that keep jobs in the US will also get a tax break for every new job created for AMERICANS.

Exxon Mobile set record breaking profits just this week, shattering their own previous profit record, they don't need any goverment assistance. A lot of Rebuplicans are even voting for Obama because they don't have faith in McCain. What is McCain talking about besides what Obama is going to do? McCain has not been clear on his economic, education, and energy plans. Drill Baby Drill, what ELSE?!?!? 5k for healthcare wont be enough for the average American family. Companies will be forced to look for more profitable places to set up shop. You're going to be forced to buy coverage in cheaper areas, when the companies turn around and move to jack up the price.

McCain's judgement comes into question when you see who he chose as his running mate and other people to surround himself with. Obama surrounds himself with the most knowledable people whether Republican or Democrat. Joe Biden has a wealth of experience with Foreign Policy, Warren Buffet is an economic master, Colin Powel is an experienced Military advisor. Palin... literally just a joke. No real master of goverment policies or basic knowledge of the Constitution. Obama was a Professor at Harvard teaching Constitutional Law.

Obama has the charisma to mend relations back with out Allies. We need to stop looking like Bullies and more like the Powerful country we are. All media is biased, so you have to keep yourself informed by looking into each candidates plans. Don't rely on what Fox, MSNBC, or CNN tell you. Learn these things for yourself and go out on Tuesday and vote for what candiate has yours and the country's best intertests in mind.

Just my 2 cents
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^^ you're the joke! Keep following in line as the others....begging for change when nothing is going to change except our taxes increasing.

Anyways, I'm done with this. I made my points you guys made yours too. We all have our opinions here and that's not going to change.

When you try and argue with someone who has actual facts to back up his "opinion", your *opinion* is pretty null and void.
 
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^^ begging for change when nothing is going to change except our taxes increasing.
I'm not rich, so I don't care if you rich folks are getting your taxes increased. John McCain (like many other idiot republicans) at one point thought the average middle class family made $500,000 dollars a year...It goes to show how out of touch you conservatives/republicans are with the average American.

BTW, I like how you used the same old Fox News "facts" or talking points in your "argument".
 
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When you try and argue with someone who has actual facts to back up his "opinion", your *opinion* is pretty null and void.
Whataver! It's funny that you believe in Obama like word for word. All politicians are liars and he is lying too. I guarantee you that those people making $100k a year will see increased taxes even thought Obama denies it. You just wait and see.

It's funny that people like you only show those facts that are in yoru favor and the other ones you don't bring up. I'm tired of those making $15,000 a year getting more tax breaks. Nothing against those people, but they are the ones that already get taxed the least out of anyone so why do they get more breaks? The ones making good money are the ones getting taxed the most and they should be getting breaks too. For those making a lot of skrilla, I'm sure they worked their asses off and I don't feel they should have to pay more because they have been successful.

There is nothing I can do, but I am just saying my opinions here.
 
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Dude chicago54 are you fucking retarded?

You seriously don't know what the fuck low-income folks go through do you?

THEY NEED THE FUCKING BREAK UNLIKE HIGH INCOME EARNERS--- DON'T PUT YOUR BULLSHIT SPIN ON IT.

"WAAA WAA!! I MAKE MORE MONEY SO I HAVE TO PAY MORE? WHY IS THAT!? UNFAIR! WAA!"

no you fucking IDIOT.
so why the fuck do you deserve a break because you make more money?

and why the fuck are you acting like you don't get a break when ANYONE making less than 200k WILL be getting a fucking break.

If you fucking make more than 200k you are NOT fucking struggling! and you don't need a goddamn break! Don't try to fucking argue like oh yea you worked hard so you deserve a bonus so you can get that new BMW you've been eyeing!

No bitch there are people who are worried about being able to feed their kids, and people trying to put their kids through school and can't make ends meet even when bustin their ass. They come first. Don't fucking cry about it. You sound like a greedy motherfucker who just wants more money because you don't think you have enough.

So a corporation should have its taxes cut so the CEO's can take multi million dollar bonuses and ship their jobs overseas but low income earners don't deserve a tax cut because the middle class drives the fucking economy...

OH yea i bet you think rich affluent corporations and executives drive this economy.

no.

You word hard for your skrilla? Maybe... but you sound like you never had to struggle in your fucking LIFE. You are that out of touch.

pay your fucking taxes and stop whining like a fucking baby.
 
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all politicians tell lies, raise taxes, promise better educations and take advantage of poor people. The 42 presidents in the history of the United States and their consistently elderly, Christian, anglo-saxon being represents an archaic representation of not only the United States but a ever creolized West. This election represents the need for an ideological shift in U.S. politics as-well as global positionality. THE UNITED STATES IS NOT THE SUPER POWER THAT IT WAS IN THE PAST. The United STATES needs Obama and what he represents...change, youth, color and intellectualism..The top tier Republicans know it and that is why key figures have endorsed Obama.
 
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First off A-Wolf, tight track.

OK, we're all Americans here so everyone has the right to express their own opinions and vote how they see fit. BUT as a blue collar working American, Obama's plan seems to work best for me and my family. Companies that don't create work in the United States should not be getting tax beaks for shipping jobs overseas. Our economy is suffering and we need to do whats best for everyone here. Obama's plan calls for tax breaks for people making less that 250K a year. Even small businesses that make over 250k will only be taxed on the portion OVER 250k, for example a small business that makes 300k will only be taxed on the 50k over 250k.. They'll still recieve credits for the 250k earning. Companies that keep jobs in the US will also get a tax break for every new job created for AMERICANS.

Exxon Mobile set record breaking profits just this week, shattering their own previous profit record, they don't need any goverment assistance. A lot of Rebuplicans are even voting for Obama because they don't have faith in McCain. What is McCain talking about besides what Obama is going to do? McCain has not been clear on his economic, education, and energy plans. Drill Baby Drill, what ELSE?!?!? 5k for healthcare wont be enough for the average American family. Companies will be forced to look for more profitable places to set up shop. You're going to be forced to buy coverage in cheaper areas, when the companies turn around and move to jack up the price.

McCain's judgement comes into question when you see who he chose as his running mate and other people to surround himself with. Obama surrounds himself with the most knowledable people whether Republican or Democrat. Joe Biden has a wealth of experience with Foreign Policy, Warren Buffet is an economic master, Colin Powel is an experienced Military advisor. Palin... literally just a joke. No real master of goverment policies or basic knowledge of the Constitution. Obama was a Professor at Harvard teaching Constitutional Law.

Obama has the charisma to mend relations back with out Allies. We need to stop looking like Bullies and more like the Powerful country we are. All media is biased, so you have to keep yourself informed by looking into each candidates plans. Don't rely on what Fox, MSNBC, or CNN tell you. Learn these things for yourself and go out on Tuesday and vote for what candiate has yours and the country's best intertests in mind.

Just my 2 cents
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