How did you get VY again..... the same way we got JR playing like shit what did you guys have that year 4 -12 record then the next year 5 -11 the best year you've had was last year after three shit years in a row. So dont be to proud of the titans. Yes the raiders have been playing like shit since 2002 we all know that but bandwagon fans are you crazy most of us are from the bay grew up fans and unless your ten cant say you've been a titans fan all your life so go stick to your titans thread.