Nothin like some good old fashioned karma eh Raider fans?
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so we got lucky?
if we got lucky dont u think jemarcus would be doin more numbers than peyton?
if we got lucky we would be in the playoffs..
3 wins dont mean luck... it just happened... we happened to have a better strategy than the teams we beat 2 of those teams happened to be playoff contenders...
now since ur being a raider hater like always... lemme be a niner hater...
the wins u have.. aside from the domination of the rams have mostly been teams beating themselves.. listen to the announcers.im not the only one saying it..... yea smith and hill had a few good passes and a few td's here and there but if the teams dont beat themselves... its gonna be tough for the niners to beat them based on skill... lets take the cardinals for instance... helllllla dumass penalties held them back from mounting an offense... good win for u guys a learning experience for the cards... and trust me next meeting i guarantee a cardinal ass whoopin....
when a good team comes in that dont make mistakes (FALCONS)
we see the true niners... 45-10... blowout loss... at home to top that...
now the jags... garrard had TONS of passing yards... and almost the same amount of completions as A.Smith.. but his dumbass fumbled in crucial situations... he was in your red zone allll day and his FG kicker didnt help AT ALL... and again a team beat themselves even the announcers said it... i cant quote it exactly but if u watch a replay trust me u will hear it...
now i know a bunch of niner fans are gonna get butthurt but i dont give a shit.... like i said earlier Im a big raider fan but im not the one who tries to argue over HEY WHO SUCKS MORE THE RAIDERS OR NINERS... both sides of the bay strugglin niners have a better record yes and their QB throws on target, yes... but we allll need work... just oakland can use a lil more haha
if we got lucky dont u think jemarcus would be doin more numbers than peyton?
if we got lucky we would be in the playoffs..
3 wins dont mean luck... it just happened... we happened to have a better strategy than the teams we beat 2 of those teams happened to be playoff contenders...
now since ur being a raider hater like always... lemme be a niner hater...
the wins u have.. aside from the domination of the rams have mostly been teams beating themselves.. listen to the announcers.im not the only one saying it..... yea smith and hill had a few good passes and a few td's here and there but if the teams dont beat themselves... its gonna be tough for the niners to beat them based on skill... lets take the cardinals for instance... helllllla dumass penalties held them back from mounting an offense... good win for u guys a learning experience for the cards... and trust me next meeting i guarantee a cardinal ass whoopin....
when a good team comes in that dont make mistakes (FALCONS)
we see the true niners... 45-10... blowout loss... at home to top that...
now the jags... garrard had TONS of passing yards... and almost the same amount of completions as A.Smith.. but his dumbass fumbled in crucial situations... he was in your red zone allll day and his FG kicker didnt help AT ALL... and again a team beat themselves even the announcers said it... i cant quote it exactly but if u watch a replay trust me u will hear it...
now i know a bunch of niner fans are gonna get butthurt but i dont give a shit.... like i said earlier Im a big raider fan but im not the one who tries to argue over HEY WHO SUCKS MORE THE RAIDERS OR NINERS... both sides of the bay strugglin niners have a better record yes and their QB throws on target, yes... but we allll need work... just oakland can use a lil more haha
wipe the thorns off your pussy son!
5-6>3-7 we would slap the raidturds in a game right now the way our teams stand
and lol @ we only beat teams that beat themselves bwahahaha. the eagles didnt put up 10 points against your shitty defense. then the bengals finally get their head out their ass and they fumble in their own 25. and dont even bring up the cheifs win.
enjoy 7 straight seasons of seven or more losses
5-6>3-7 we would slap the raidturds in a game right now the way our teams stand
and lol @ we only beat teams that beat themselves bwahahaha. the eagles didnt put up 10 points against your shitty defense. then the bengals finally get their head out their ass and they fumble in their own 25. and dont even bring up the cheifs win.
enjoy 7 straight seasons of seven or more losses
which according to ur formula u need to look at quality of losses too, not just wins. I say "ur formula" because you, like some other Raiders fans on here, try to discredit wins. What is this "quality of opponent" bullshit? This "fluke" idea everyone talks about in the NFL doesnt apply, it doesnt exist. Does the better team ALWAYS win? No, and to me a fluke is a once in a while thing, not a bunch of upsets on literally, any given Sunday. That's what that means, that anyone can beat anyone, and this is the only truth that exists in the NFL, in terms of wins and losses.
According to ur logic wouldnt the Raiders beating the Bengals or Eagles be a fluke? You cant just pick any game that u see to be a fluke. Wins-losses, thats it, thats all that matters. for instance, u can parade all u want about ur 3 wins but they dont mean shit when u lose 3 games in a row (Broncos, Texans, Giants) of a combined score of 96-16. (And i didnt even count the 38-0 beatdown the Jets laid 2 weeks later.) Those 3 games alone are worse than ANY 3 games the Niners have played this year, combined.
Did the Niners get embarassed by the Falcons? Sure, it happened. So thats 1 that made them look terrible. And yes, the Niners have had an underachieving season but they still played close games against the Vikings, Texans, Colts, Titans, and Packers by which they lost each by 7 points or less. (That's 5 out of their 6 losses!) We can sit here and debate about the "quality" of the Niners wins, but I can say the same fucking bullshit about the EMBARRASSING number of games the Raiders have played this year.
This "fluke" argument just doesnt make any sense. Anytime there's an upset it cant just be a fluke. The better team isnt always better. Thats why we watch it.
But leave it to Raiders fans to be so far removed from the idea of winning that they try to discredit another team for doing so.
According to ur logic wouldnt the Raiders beating the Bengals or Eagles be a fluke? You cant just pick any game that u see to be a fluke. Wins-losses, thats it, thats all that matters. for instance, u can parade all u want about ur 3 wins but they dont mean shit when u lose 3 games in a row (Broncos, Texans, Giants) of a combined score of 96-16. (And i didnt even count the 38-0 beatdown the Jets laid 2 weeks later.) Those 3 games alone are worse than ANY 3 games the Niners have played this year, combined.
Did the Niners get embarassed by the Falcons? Sure, it happened. So thats 1 that made them look terrible. And yes, the Niners have had an underachieving season but they still played close games against the Vikings, Texans, Colts, Titans, and Packers by which they lost each by 7 points or less. (That's 5 out of their 6 losses!) We can sit here and debate about the "quality" of the Niners wins, but I can say the same fucking bullshit about the EMBARRASSING number of games the Raiders have played this year.
This "fluke" argument just doesnt make any sense. Anytime there's an upset it cant just be a fluke. The better team isnt always better. Thats why we watch it.
But leave it to Raiders fans to be so far removed from the idea of winning that they try to discredit another team for doing so.
the Niners are better than the Raiders right now... straight up, no questions asked
with the being said... the Raiders wins were not lucky wins... we outplayed the Eagles and we mos def outplayed the Bengals... the Cinci win was out best all around win IMO... Raiders played well in every aspect of the game
you could argue that the Chiefs outplayed us... but guess what? we won! you could also argue that we outplayed SD on the Monday night game... but guess what??? they won!
none of that bullshit matters...
does the quality of our wins make us a better team? no... but don't try to discredit the Raiders for winning those games either
in those wins the team played to it's potential... when they do that they can be a very good team... the problem is that really good teams do that consistently... the Raiders are not consistent... therefore we are a bad team overall
with the being said... the Raiders wins were not lucky wins... we outplayed the Eagles and we mos def outplayed the Bengals... the Cinci win was out best all around win IMO... Raiders played well in every aspect of the game
you could argue that the Chiefs outplayed us... but guess what? we won! you could also argue that we outplayed SD on the Monday night game... but guess what??? they won!
none of that bullshit matters...
does the quality of our wins make us a better team? no... but don't try to discredit the Raiders for winning those games either
in those wins the team played to it's potential... when they do that they can be a very good team... the problem is that really good teams do that consistently... the Raiders are not consistent... therefore we are a bad team overall
Well the funny thing is yall are gonna get whooped by Arizona in 2 weeks. Niners were very fortunate to play them the first week and that doesnt change the fact Arizona is not even a contender and the Nfc West is a joke. You can say whatever you want but i will stick with my reasoning and say the Niners still havent beat anyone good and fuck your close losses, the Raiders should have beat the Chargers in week 1 and played them tough the 2nd time, a team that would smash the niners but could of, should of, would of.
did u come up with queefs all on your own?
and his line wasnt that much better if u look at the stats...also Russell was a 1st overall...terrible
just admit you guys fucked up already and prolly fucked up again this year....damn most raiders fans will at least admit shit. sorry buddy but it aint just 49ers, broncos, chiefs, and chargers fans, its everyone in the national media. grow up.
and his line wasnt that much better if u look at the stats...also Russell was a 1st overall...terrible
just admit you guys fucked up already and prolly fucked up again this year....damn most raiders fans will at least admit shit. sorry buddy but it aint just 49ers, broncos, chiefs, and chargers fans, its everyone in the national media. grow up.
yeah, could of should of would of, thats my point...that means nothing at the end of the day...so just like LOSSES, close or not, MEAN NOTHING....neither does a win against a "non-quality" or "quality" opponent...that logic means NOTHING. and i cant wait when the Niners shut down the Cardinals so u can still try to say "oh well, the Cardinals arent that good..." Which is it, are they good or not? And who cares if it was the first week? A win is a win is a win...thus my case in point.
and a quality opponent? yeah the previously 6-4 Jaguars are just garbage...
talk about delusional.
and a quality opponent? yeah the previously 6-4 Jaguars are just garbage...
talk about delusional.
LOL @ "you asked for it" as if you're about to serve up a response I can't argue against.
PLEASE.
It's not just about the numbers, but if you insist on comparing stats, compare CURRENT STATS from THIS YEAR, not career stats. We're talking about the better QB RIGHT NOW. Similar career numbers don't mean shit when one QB has regressed and the other is making progress. I don't care if Russell put up 4,500 yards and 40 TDs last year, that doesn't matter one bit because we're talking about THIS YEAR and the current state of the two men.
But besides numbers, Smith has shown more poise, more understanding of the game, FAR better accuracy, and better decision-making than Russell. Keep in mind we're talking about THIS YEAR. THE CURRENT STATE OF BOTH QBs. Not Alex Smith's career numbers Vs. Russell's.
What is it that you don't understand? Seriously. You're approaching this argument as if I was saying Smith is a GOOD QB. I'm not. I am saying, however, that he is BETTER THAN RUSSELL, which isn't saying much at all. And of course Gore doesn't make excuses, he was good from the start of his career.
It's common knowledge that a QB's 3rd year is considered his make-or-break year. Get in the know. I shouldn't have to explain this shit to you. Alex Smith got hurt at the beginning of the 3rd game in his 3rd year and hasn't really played since. It's kinda hard to judge a man's abilities when they aren't healthy enough to play. Russell on the other hand has sucked dick in his make-or-break year and got benched for Bruce fucking Gradkowski (who?).
Take your head out of your fuckin ass and READ what I'm posting. THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT MATTER ARE THE CURRENT NUMBERS, WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS:
A. Smith in 6 games: 122 of 196 for 1,267 yards, 62.2%, 11 TDs, 7 INTs, 84.7 QB rating, 211.2 yards per game.
Russell in 9 games: 96 of 205 for 1,064 yards, 46.8%, 2 TDs, 9 INTs, 47.7 QB rating, 118.2 yards per game.
Take a look. This year, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS, Alex Smith is shitting all over your boy. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
Emotions? You gotta be fuckin kidding me.
LAME.
PLEASE.
It's not just about the numbers, but if you insist on comparing stats, compare CURRENT STATS from THIS YEAR, not career stats. We're talking about the better QB RIGHT NOW. Similar career numbers don't mean shit when one QB has regressed and the other is making progress. I don't care if Russell put up 4,500 yards and 40 TDs last year, that doesn't matter one bit because we're talking about THIS YEAR and the current state of the two men.
But besides numbers, Smith has shown more poise, more understanding of the game, FAR better accuracy, and better decision-making than Russell. Keep in mind we're talking about THIS YEAR. THE CURRENT STATE OF BOTH QBs. Not Alex Smith's career numbers Vs. Russell's.
What is it that you don't understand? Seriously. You're approaching this argument as if I was saying Smith is a GOOD QB. I'm not. I am saying, however, that he is BETTER THAN RUSSELL, which isn't saying much at all. And of course Gore doesn't make excuses, he was good from the start of his career.
It's common knowledge that a QB's 3rd year is considered his make-or-break year. Get in the know. I shouldn't have to explain this shit to you. Alex Smith got hurt at the beginning of the 3rd game in his 3rd year and hasn't really played since. It's kinda hard to judge a man's abilities when they aren't healthy enough to play. Russell on the other hand has sucked dick in his make-or-break year and got benched for Bruce fucking Gradkowski (who?).
Take your head out of your fuckin ass and READ what I'm posting. THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT MATTER ARE THE CURRENT NUMBERS, WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS:
A. Smith in 6 games: 122 of 196 for 1,267 yards, 62.2%, 11 TDs, 7 INTs, 84.7 QB rating, 211.2 yards per game.
Russell in 9 games: 96 of 205 for 1,064 yards, 46.8%, 2 TDs, 9 INTs, 47.7 QB rating, 118.2 yards per game.
Take a look. This year, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS, Alex Smith is shitting all over your boy. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
Emotions? You gotta be fuckin kidding me.
LAME.
Of course you would rather go that route because your team happened to pull two wins straight outta their asses. At least the Niners would be able to beat every team they've defeated if they played again. If the raiders played Cinci and Philly 10 times, they'd lose 9 out of 10. Both those teams are better than your team and everyone knows it.