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and i dont know why you keep bringing up the smith/rodgers draft shit from 2005. its 2009, our roster is set, lets go from here
Because I`m making my point about my stance we should have drafted Rodgers over Smith. You were the one making a case against it.

I know who we have on the roster, and once again, I would like to see Smith succeed to prove his worth for the #1 overall pick in said 2005 draft.

But many feel the same as I do about Nolan and co fucking up that draft. That`s why he has been barraged with the boo birds when he misses throws in camp so far this year, in 2009.
 

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Sucks for the niners that they Drafted a lil bitch
It sucks that his agent thinks he`s Drew Rosenhaus or some shit, really.

And if this is coming from Crabtree more than his agent, I say fuck dude and cut ties now. We don`t want another Owens on the team.............. second thought, I`d kind of like to see that video on youtube of Singletary and Crabtree going toes. That shit might be comedy!
 
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What's Going on with the San Francisco 49ers Michael Crabtree?

by Justin Smith (Scribe) Written on August 06, 2009
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NEW YORK - APRIL 21: Football player Michael Crabtree poses for a portrait on April 21, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images for Subway) (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images for Subway)
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Oh, Michael Crabtree. Already, without taking an NFL snap, you have been worth the price of admission.

From his pre-draft quotes subtly slamming the Raiders, to speaking on men's fashion, to reportedly bringing an attitude to team interviews that would make Naomi Campbell cringe, he's been in the news an awful lot for someone who has never played a professional down.

Now, rumors are circulating that, feeling slighted by not only where he was drafted but also with the money that goes along with that precipitous drop, he will skip this entire NFL season and re-enter the 2010 NFL draft.

I bet Texas Tech wishes he'd never signed an agent.

Speaking of his agent, Eugene Parker, he denies that this "threat," as he called it, has ever been discussed. According to Parker, he does not employ guerilla negotiating tactics and prefers to do his dealings behind closed doors rather than in the media.

This seems very reasonable and logical.

The rumors began when Crabtree's cousin and "advisor" David Wells spoke with ESPN. He stated that the money Darrius Heyward-Bey was paid dictates the fair market value, and because they and every single other person who isn't a Raider fan seems to think it's set in stone that Crabtree is and will be a better player, he should get equal or greater money.

In fact, since Crabtree is, in his own mind, such a good player already, he should get top-three money. That's where he should've been drafted, in his humble opinion. His advisor, who isn't giving him very good advice, agrees.

The problem, Crabtree and Wells, is that the proof is in the pudding, and the Raiders proved they valued DHB more than they valued you by drafting him. So did the other eight teams that chose to draft someone not named Crabtree.

So there's your fair market value. It doesn't matter how good you or your family think you are. It doesn't even matter how good so-called NFL draft pundits and "experts" think you are.

It matters how good your prospective future employers think you are. In this case, they didn't think Crabtree was as good as he certainly thinks he is.

The Lions, Rams, and Chiefs could all use a wideout. But they had much, much more pressing needs in this draft, and therefore were never in the cards to draft Crabtree.

Seattle had Aaron Curry fall to them, and if that hadn't happened, who knows whether they would've drafted Crabtree? The Seahawks certainly need wideouts, as it seems to be a real hard-luck position for them injury-wise.

But Crabtree didn't end up in Seattle. I wouldn't be surprised, if Curry was gone, if he had, though, and this probably wouldn't have been an issue. Of course, it's conceivable, based on his actions, that he would've demanded No. 1 money in that case.

Then Cleveland, who had already crossed Crabtree off their list due to what head coach Eric Mangini called a "diva" attitude—nevermind the irony of the heavy-handed massive-ego of Mangini calling someone else a diva—made a little trade with the Jets to allow them to move up and pick Mark Sanchez.

The Bengals, who after the departure of Stacey Andrews needed a tackle, took exactly that and chose Andre Smith. Despite losing T.J. Houshmandzadeh in the offseason and the ongoing mental meltdown of Chad Johnson—I'm sorry if it's disrespectful to him, but I refuse to encourage his ridiculousness—they still didn't need Crabtree's services as badly as they needed Andre Smith or Eugene Monroe or another equally talented tackle.

The Raiders were up next. Everyone in the world knew they had needs, but everyone in the world knew one of those needs, in a desperate way, was a wide receiver.

Despite his pre-draft comments in which it came across that Crabtree would be equally happy having red-hot sewing needles jammed into his eyes as he would being drafted by the Raiders, it was widely expected the Silver & Black would pick the obvious best receiver in the draft.

Which they did, in regards to a receiver that fits the Raider mold and fills a need moreso than Crabtree would have.

It certainly seems now that, if Crabtree holds out, the Raiders are vindicated here. Of course, I'm waiting for the "well they should've drafted Jeremy Maclin, then" comments to begin. Perhaps they already have.

The Raiders recognized that Crabtree didn't want to play for them, and that he would be a very big risk regarding holding out for more money. After their unfortunate dance with No. 1 choice JaMarcus Russell, and the amount of key learning time he missed due to holding out, they weren't about to take that chance again.

As a Raider fan, I'll admit I was slightly annoyed by the pick until I started reading up on both players. I began to get more excited about DHB's upside, and that just grows daily.

Based on their dynamics, DHB fits the Raiders system better than Crabtree would have, as he'll pull defenders and allow more underneath action for Darren McFadden, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Zach Miller, Louis Murphy, and other dynamic players on the roster.

Yes, there are some—I hear you lauging out there.

Anyway, on to Jacksonville. Now, it was also widely expected that wideout-starved Jacksonville simply couldn't pass up a talent like Crabtree. But they did as well, instead going with tackle Eugene Monroe to replace the departed Khalif Barnes.

At this point, with four teams expected to take a receiver all passing on Crabtree, you have to think there is more than meets the eye.

The Green Bay Packers didn't really seem like a viable choice, as they had more concerns on the defensive side of the ball and were changing their defensive scheme. To fit the mold, they made what I think was a great choice in B.J. Raji at defensive tackle.

I was actually more upset that the Raiders passed on Raji for DHB than I was that they passed on Crabtree for him. Stopping the run is something the Raiders don't do. At all.

Then the Niners, who must've felt like the kid on Christmas who gets the expensive toy he thought his parents could never afford, had Crabtree fall into their lap. They, naturally, pulled the trigger.

Immediately I thought: "Damn! The Niners just picked up a really talented kid, and they'll only have to pay him No. 10 money."

But then I thought about that.

It was inevitable that he was going to hold out. Especially since, based on what I'd seen and read, he thought he was the best player in the draft. With that being the case, there is no way his ego nor his expectations would allow him to accept No. 10 money.

I do understand where he's coming from. There is nothing wrong with feeling like you are the best player and asking to be rewarded. However, when nine other teams don't agree, perhaps you're wrong.

Skipping this season and re-entering the draft, after taking fully a year off from competitive football, does not seem like the best course of action for Crabtree to get the payday he's looking for. Players who take years off generally take a while to readjust, if they do at all.

Crabtree, having never played an NFL down and having no real idea of what NFL game speed is, will set himself back so far that I would be amazed if he were drafted anywhere near the No. 10 spot next season.

I hope the Niners continue to take a hard line with him, though. San Francisco does need receiving help, but the 49ers aren't in the desperate straits they've been in in the recent past. They have some veterans that still have life like Isaac Bruce coupled with young talents like Jason Hill and Josh Morgan, so they aren't desperate to get him in the lineup.

It's interesting now that this is a possibility to see Niners fans talk as if they never wanted him in the first place and that they don't need him anyway. Because whenever DHB is discussed in Raider forums, and Niners fan inevitably makes their way in there and trashes us for picking him over Crabtree.

Then they proceed to say how great Crabtree is and how he's going to be the best Niners receiver since Rice, etc. Funny how opinions change when it looks like you may have completely, utterly, and totally wasted a top 10 draft pick.

Unfortunately for Crabtree, his timing sucked this season. There were so many tackle-needy teams and so many good tackles available that the skill positions weren't as valued as they usually are in most drafts.

He needs to recognize that fact, be happy he's in the NFL, and take his multi-millions. Because the Niners have indicated they aren't budging here, and nobody is feeling sorry for a kid who's already shown a colossal ego and will make more by 23 years old than most of us in five lifetimes.

If the rumors from his advisor are true, then he needs to fire his advisor and get better advice.
 
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i swear if he signs with the niners for what he wants.. and underachieves im gonna go to all the games and tell him "you wanted all that money for this? to play like shit.. you're not even worth half"
 
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i swear if he signs with the niners for what he wants.. and underachieves im gonna go to all the games and tell him "you wanted all that money for this? to play like shit.. you're not even worth half"
and hell give a fuck? hell smash off in a his half a million dollar car and go fuck 3 supermodels that night in his 5 million dollar pad.
 
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there needs to be a rookie salary cap in place so these damn rookies cant come into the league unproven and make more than a vet who is proven there needs to be limits and standards
 
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Calm down people crabtree aint sittin nuthin out and remember to listen to an agent, not a family member

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-10-64/Crabtree-s-agent-goes-on-record--no-threats-made.html
o yea?? listen to an agent?

Multiple sources say Parker threatened year-long holdout
Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2009 8:37 PM ET
I'll admit that I got a little pissy earlier today regarding the proliferation of reports that accepted at face value the denials from the 49ers that agent Eugene Parker threatened the team that receiver Michael Crabtree will sit out the entire 2009 season if the Niners don't cave in to Parker's demands.

But I'm not sorry for how I responded. I'm sorry for putting myself in position that I had to respond the way I had to respond. (Hey, Antonio Pierce should sell that one to Hallmark. Unless and until he does, it's fair game.)

And given the lingering confusion on this issue, let me be clear. Three sources have now said that Parker made the threat.

One source says that Parker specifically tied a season-long holdout to a contract that exceeds the package that the Raiders gave to Darrius Heyward-Bey with the seventh overall pick in round one.

It previously was believed that Parker was looking for a top-five deal. Apparently, he is aiming two spots lower.

If he'll move only three more spots lower, maybe Crabtree can get to work and prove that he's worth his contract, and more.

Regardless, the threat was made. It would be beyond stupid for Parker to follow through on it, but the threat was made.

Now, if any of you keep sending me links to reports to the contrary, I'm gonna turn this car around and drive home.
 

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there needs to be a rookie salary cap in place so these damn rookies cant come into the league unproven and make more than a vet who is proven there needs to be limits and standards
yeah there is a team cap, there should also be a 'stupid' cap for rookies that want massive $$$. Unless that rookie can win games by himself by playing O and D, there should be a cap for them.
 
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Crabtree is digging himself a hole he doesn't want to be in. I hope the vets and D light his ass up if he gets into camp. He'll become P Willis's personal tackling dummy.
 
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Singletary did respond on a ESPN interview saying the cashtree situation is on the back of his head. He worrying about the players on the field right now and trying to get the team ready. He said when cashtree comes then he said its a plus but basically he saying he aint trippin off that diva.

If cashtree re-enters next year draft (which wont happen) he will go in the 2nd round for not playing a year of football, his reputation with this situation and he will get 2nd 3rd round money. 4yrs 5.5 mill guaranteed. whats the point in holding out. If his agent is smart, he will explain this to him because his agent will loose out on a big commission if this happens. Either way, if he holds out, cashtree and his agent will loose out on some serious cash.