Nation Of Islam Lutinent Khalid Muhammad Debate With Jewish Scholars At Coll!

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Peace be with you to, but obviously you are part of the world that accepts everything when given to you. Were you truly a Baptist Christian, or did you just associate yourself with the Baptist Church in order to claim something? What past, and since you have claimed to be a muslim now, what about these Suicide Bombers in Israel? What about the Muslims that beheaded nick berg in the Name of allah? Are they true muslims, or apostates?
 
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Haha, damn! I'm about an hour and a half into the Shaykh Khalid Yanis lecture, but I got a chance to watch the Crucifixion debate between Ahmed Deedat and Dr. Douglass and must say, wow! Mr. Deedat kicked his ass, lol! Excuse my language but he really did(especially near the end), haha. It got to a point where Dr. Douglass couldn't even answer questions directly, I almost felt embarrassed for him. Shaykh Yanis is a deep brother also, I like how he actually breaks down the science of things. I'm still watching him tho and I'm getting drousy so I'm about to take a break and come back to it. Again, thanx, this is good stuff bruh..
 
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Parkboyz why haven't you answered my question, are these suicide bombers, are the taliban true keepers of Allah's Laws? If no, what does that tell you about the Crusaders?
 
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Stay on topic please, I have no idea why you Christians keep littering my threads with this irrelevant nonsense in your desperate attempts to defame a religion. No one cares, you're responding to who? I will be forced to delete this thread if such actions persist, as it inhibits my learning process..

Edit: Naw, I won't be deleting anymore threads.. It's just not my style to argue back and fourth like this about nothing, so I'll just simply ignore any contention..
 

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ParkBoyz said:
Stay on topic please, I have no idea why you Christians keep littering my threads with this irrelevant nonsense in your desperate attempts to defame a religion. No one cares, you're responding to who? I will be forced to delete this thread if such actions persist, as it inhibits my learning process..

Stockton are you a christian? I'm not a christian. Any christians in this thread?
 

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STOCKTON said:
I believe in Jesus, I believe that I have similar doctrines as Christians. Does a Messianic/Christ Follower Apply?
That depends on who you ask. Most messianics consider themselves jewish instead of christian. I would say you aren't a christian. Do you belong to a church? Have you been baptized into a church?
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
Parkboyz - this man's babble is not even worth my time.
It's all good, just wanted to see where you were coming from.. You're tardy btw, lol.. Naw, but dude was a bit of a racist, I just can't say that he was a liar.
 
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ParkBoyz said:
It's all good, just wanted to see where you were coming from.. You're tardy btw, lol..
lol word.

Naw, but dude was a bit of a racist, I just can't say that he was a liar.
His points are obfuscated, disconnected, and nonsensical in places. The man constantly repeated the phrase "white jew", "white jew" in order to lump Jews into the same category as whites in general without even mentioning that many do have semitic / middle eastern origins. Is a curly haired, dark skinned Jew with recent ancestry in the Middle East also a "white Jew"?

While parts of his speech resembled a debate, most of it was more of a diatribe about selected topics upon which his followers already agreed mixed with simplistic racial nationalism.

The theory / fact that Black people were the first humans does not discount the rest of the world from its own cultural and ethnic achievements, accomplishments, or validity. For whatever reason, modern man may or may not have began in Africa, however, to essentially call yourself God based upon this fact is ludicrous. And that is part of NOI philosophy - Allah is the black man, etc.
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
lol word.



His points are obfuscated, disconnected, and nonsensical in places. The man constantly repeated the phrase "white jew", "white jew" in order to lump Jews into the same category as whites in general without even mentioning that many do have semitic / middle eastern origins. Is a curly haired, dark skinned Jew with recent ancestry in the Middle East also a "white Jew"?

While parts of his speech resembled a debate, most of it was more of a diatribe about selected topics upon which his followers already agreed mixed with simplistic racial nationalism.

The theory / fact that Black people were the first humans does not discount the rest of the world from its own cultural and ethnic achievements, accomplishments, or validity. For whatever reason, modern man may or may not have began in Africa, however, to essentially call yourself God based upon this fact is ludicrous. And that is part of NOI philosophy - Allah is the black man, etc.
If that truly is the philosophy of the NOI, that's a disgrace. I just didn't get that out of what he was trying to say(not directly at least). And when he kept saying "white Jew" , "white jew", I believe that he was directing that to the ones in the room, who according to him, were not the original Jews. But, I must agree that after listening to this guy more and more, he's just spewing hatred. A lot of his points were unnecessary and irrelevant, even if true. So in whole, I actually tend to agree with you now though that this guy had a secret agenda, and I think that was to preach hate..
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
For whatever reason, modern man may or may not have began in Africa, however, to essentially call yourself God based upon this fact is ludicrous. And that is part of NOI philosophy - Allah is the black man, etc.
That is not part of NOI 'philosophy'...