MOVING ON...
- Thread starter Chinese Mike
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Man ....I feel u 1,000,000 percent....I been fighten to get in the game and now that im finally getting it....I aint feeling it....(ha) im on some one album shit (but knowing ima make more)...Also I realize we only feel like this temporary.....like I felt like this before Dre Dre chronic came out and then i thought rap was wack for hella years after pac died and then I believe it starting knocking again when Mac Dre did his thang...then we he died is when it got wack again...(where we at now...hella copycats)...hey it might be me to be that spark (ha) I listen to rock more then rap dam near now and I dont give a fuck about doing me..But Chinese Mike yeah its hard wearing all hats...belive me I know....I wish I could just record my vocals and get paid....but thats probably tha easiest part. Much success in whateva u do! To all yall mayne
Ay Mike,I Feel you..If you get a minute check it out 1 time.
"I QUIT" -Mouthpiece
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"I QUIT" -Mouthpiece
produced by Frankie Fingaz
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Because the music industry is dying FAST. The industry recognizes this and is forced to squeeze whatever profit they can out of the music.
A few years ago, a label could afford to take an artistic risk hoping it would pay off. Can't do that now. The mainstream is in a state where it has to maintain the dumbed down, formulaic product to ensure the highest profit margin.
The music industry as we once knew it is D E A D. Hate to be the one to say it but it's true.
A few years ago, a label could afford to take an artistic risk hoping it would pay off. Can't do that now. The mainstream is in a state where it has to maintain the dumbed down, formulaic product to ensure the highest profit margin.
The music industry as we once knew it is D E A D. Hate to be the one to say it but it's true.
thats fucked up logic: the industry is dying so we're just gonna be cheap make crappy music cause no one is buying it anyways
take kanye for example. his songs are crazy production wise, and he sells records. i was watching this youtube video of just blaze where he had a live orchestra playing some shit, and just blaze sells records.
better music = more sales.
take kanye for example. his songs are crazy production wise, and he sells records. i was watching this youtube video of just blaze where he had a live orchestra playing some shit, and just blaze sells records.
better music = more sales.
That's not the logic though. The decision isn't to consciously make "crappy music" it's to make what is going to sell. What makes money is always #1 Priority, especially when you're trying to SAVE your business from tanking as the music industry is in the process of doing right now.
You may feel the quality of the music is lacking (and it is) but that's not the logic with which the labels are putting their projects together.
The video of Just Blaze was either for the track he's doing for Fabolous album (which is getting the push back treatment right now) or for the Nike Commercial that Just Blaze did the music for. He had tracks on Jay-Z's album but they weren't HITs, they were just high profile. Same with his track on Diddy's album. Yeah Just Blaze sells records but it has nothing to do with anything other than having placements on high profile projects. Where's that Saigon album???
URBAN LEGEND.
You may feel the quality of the music is lacking (and it is) but that's not the logic with which the labels are putting their projects together.
The video of Just Blaze was either for the track he's doing for Fabolous album (which is getting the push back treatment right now) or for the Nike Commercial that Just Blaze did the music for. He had tracks on Jay-Z's album but they weren't HITs, they were just high profile. Same with his track on Diddy's album. Yeah Just Blaze sells records but it has nothing to do with anything other than having placements on high profile projects. Where's that Saigon album???
URBAN LEGEND.
better music definetly = more sales but even better promotion and marketing = way more sales.Some of the dopest albums I've heard didn't seem to have a great marketing plan which to me is what caused lack of sales.If people do music cause they just love it then they shouldn't even try to sell it.giev it away.just my opinion.
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i think you just need a vacation and some time away from it before you ready to work on more shit and it doesn't feel like a chore.....i was feeling same way for a while.....being in the studio every night engineering for a lotta folks got to be a chore and took away from the fun aspect of it.....when it came down to mixing my own material i felt too lazy to do it any more and lost my enthusiasm......ive thought about giving up on it completely myself a few times but after a few days maybe weeks my attitude changes and my love for the music reemerges and brings me bacc to it again...
i'm sorry that last mos def album was trash, they ain't even buy inserts for that weak ass disc! as for what makes an artist better, lyrics, beats, reality, uniqueness, relavance to the world around them. saying something that everyone can relate to. 10M ppl bought GRODT cause they felt 50's pain. Same with Em. Same with Kanye. Same with TI. Same with BIG. Same with Pac. Those artists are able to combine all of the elements of rap together in a way that lots of ppl relate to their story or their point of view, and that's what makes them great artists to me. If you never sold dope, lived the street life, or even hung out in the park and drank a 40 you can still relate to what those artists are saying.
here's some evidence in the quality music / street buzz VS radio play argument
case 1
young buck vs mims 1st week
140k 77k
mims had the #1 single in the country but still couldn't sell a million saying nothing on the track. buck didn't have a lot of airplay and sold 2x as much offa street buzz. btw i was in la the week mims dropped and a lot of industry folks were surprised he basically flopped, which is good.
case 2
nas - hip hop is dead. one recycled single, minimal airplay. still sold platinum or close to it.
case 3.
jibbs, d4l, franchise boys, even e-40 all had monster singles and didn't go gold or took them 1/2 a year to go gold.
case 4
camorn and lil flip's last albums were both trash, and they sold accordingly (flips scanned a whole 44k 1st week, guess he really do need his)
here's some evidence in the quality music / street buzz VS radio play argument
case 1
young buck vs mims 1st week
140k 77k
mims had the #1 single in the country but still couldn't sell a million saying nothing on the track. buck didn't have a lot of airplay and sold 2x as much offa street buzz. btw i was in la the week mims dropped and a lot of industry folks were surprised he basically flopped, which is good.
case 2
nas - hip hop is dead. one recycled single, minimal airplay. still sold platinum or close to it.
case 3.
jibbs, d4l, franchise boys, even e-40 all had monster singles and didn't go gold or took them 1/2 a year to go gold.
case 4
camorn and lil flip's last albums were both trash, and they sold accordingly (flips scanned a whole 44k 1st week, guess he really do need his)
For me, the reason to re-think my situation was the type of people who are in this business. There are some real bad people who are involved with this business. I mean the less desireable people who always try to get something for nothing, or try to use the negative means to get what they want. The older I get the more I realize that hanging out with a bunch of goons all day is not the life I want to lead. That is why I have stepped back and just stay on the business end of things, and not around a bunch of people who are not positive people. I fuck with people who are going places, so should u.
