Mixtape Question...DJs or Anyone
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the bay does as it always does..........take a concept and beat it till it's dead. I've done two mixtapes so far and the reason i do it is because I'm jealous and I wish I would have made that song. For example the Ashanti song "Only You" when I saw the video the first thing I thought early on was that "this damn beat is hot" so we laced it for our second mixtape, however before we put it out there's now 50 artists lacing it. Not to worry though, we have other surpriss on the mixtape. It's our second and last mixtape too.
I'm going to call it now the next trend in the Bay is going to be mix-videos. Digitally putting yourslf in another artists video rapping along with him.
I'm going to call it now the next trend in the Bay is going to be mix-videos. Digitally putting yourslf in another artists video rapping along with him.
This is such a contraversial topic amongst artist and djs out here in the bay....and it is one of 5 topics that we will be covering @ the Bay Area Rap Summit on Sunday April 17(yeah i know, cheap plug) We are having a panel on "the importance of the mixtape" because the bottom line is that it keeps artists relavant to their targeted demographic. Im sure it will be a great discussion.
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Mixtape the best thing happend to the BayArea. The reason is, new artists can now expose their music without having to spend a lot of money and they can come off the mixtape game if your music is that hot. Plus a good Dj can take a talented artist and promote them everywhere. Free promotion. We need more Djs who got the ear to the streets and let the streets decide whose hot and whose not.
the only reason they were willing to bootleg assassins cd was because some of the african cats who run the bootleg operation in new york hung out with assassin and listened to the tracks with him. otherwise they dont fuck with cats they dont know. and none of em know what the hell the bay is. if i was to go up to them and give em a mac dre cd, they would probably have thrown it in the trash. all you see is 50 cent on over 200 differant cd's out here in one spot. canal st. (chinatown) and 125th (harlem) are great spots for the tourist, but you would trip out at the real bootleg spots. you cant get in unless you have someone vouch for you. they got big ass heavy bolted doors and hardcore african cats holdin it down. i'm from the streets and even i was scared to walk up in that shit. shit was straight out the movies. i honestly thought they would hate on the fillmore to san jo joint, but they loved it and are pushin it. i would love to have some more cats from the bay come out and get the hook up. my biggest mixtape to date is one i put out called FUCK 50, it's got 22 diss songs about 50 cent and they sellin em like hot cake, i'm throwin some in the bay next week, i'm interested to see if it moves like it does out here...
I really aint got nothin too say, cuz this argument wont end... they never do on theese boards... but all i really gotta say is DONT HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME
and on a SEPERATE note.... LOOKOUT for 95LIVE.COM ( THAT RADIO STATION) 2nd mixtape comin real soon.... MIXED BY RAH 2k HOSTED BY DUTCH and ASSASSIN TITLED SUCKER FREE CITY w/ the BOOTLEG dvd of the movie along w/ the tape :lick: :classic: :classic:
www.sickmix.com
www.95live.com
and on a EVEN seperate note, u guys are quick too talk about mixtapes and shit... but u are quick too BOOOOOTLEG the same songs, hence why i took down the Bay.95live.com down!
support my people...
the whole bay.... rah2k, danny dee, daric b... koncept, even the demolition men... bay area get that money!!!!!... i aint knockin no ones funds!!!.. thats realest shit i ever typed.... all the djs that put theese NO NAMES out there. even me... its all too move this foward
keep it movin!
yeeeeeeeeeee
and on a SEPERATE note.... LOOKOUT for 95LIVE.COM ( THAT RADIO STATION) 2nd mixtape comin real soon.... MIXED BY RAH 2k HOSTED BY DUTCH and ASSASSIN TITLED SUCKER FREE CITY w/ the BOOTLEG dvd of the movie along w/ the tape :lick: :classic: :classic:
www.sickmix.com
www.95live.com
and on a EVEN seperate note, u guys are quick too talk about mixtapes and shit... but u are quick too BOOOOOTLEG the same songs, hence why i took down the Bay.95live.com down!
support my people...
the whole bay.... rah2k, danny dee, daric b... koncept, even the demolition men... bay area get that money!!!!!... i aint knockin no ones funds!!!.. thats realest shit i ever typed.... all the djs that put theese NO NAMES out there. even me... its all too move this foward
keep it movin!
yeeeeeeeeeee
Right on... That's how I feel about the situation too. I'm a fan first and foremost anyway so I don't even think its my place to speak on it as a DJ, but if I do a mix, its for free... always.
I love Bay music and I deejay so putting down some mixes of what was crackin in the Bay was as I enjoy it (not everything is about scrill) and because I want to promote Bay music.
I can see how in the Bay with easy access to all these artists music it might seem like the artists being ripped off being on mixes, but I was trying to touch an audience of don't knows.
Being in Europe that's kind of easy because I'm peeping the mix to cats who never heard most of the artists. And I know people who've asked questions and peeped CD's as a result.
And off this site and others a lot of Bay cats have downloaded my mix too.. and I'm sure rather than being at the expense of buying an album, they went swooped CD's of artists I played.
That is promotion plain and simple so I would laugh at the idea I've taken bread off someone's table, I've done the opposite, and matter of fact it costs me money when I put mixes up.
I'm sure Mark, or the Siccness Radio cats will tell you. When you download it costs that site bandwidth. My last mix was 75MB and was downloaded 500-1000 times. I paid for that.
I'm not involved enough to speak on anyone else business and I'm not here to do that, but I will say that this is a nice thread, its a question which needed asking at the moment.
Unless I see an artist on a mixtape hosting that shit and making it official, I don't know where the selling bit comes from apart from someone getting their hustle on, since it ain't official.
But as far as putting it down free goes, in so far as what Mark does, and what I did a couple of times... does anyone affiliated with artists have a problem with that? Why would they?
I can't see it... Anyway we all got common sense and can tell the difference between some cat throwing half of someones new album on a so-called mixtape, and a real mix.
So to me Dana and Angie are right to ask that question, I ain't mad at it, matter of fact I'm interested myself - its a mixtape every minute at the moment and they all cost....
That's a lot of extra competition for a fans money, so it is some shit that will take food out the actual artists mouths. And to do that with their own material... that's an issue right there.
Interesting post nonetheless... I hope people who do it for free (and like Mark says, play a variety of artists, not just rip off a bunch of tracks) keep it moving, to me they promoting.
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I love Bay music and I deejay so putting down some mixes of what was crackin in the Bay was as I enjoy it (not everything is about scrill) and because I want to promote Bay music.
I can see how in the Bay with easy access to all these artists music it might seem like the artists being ripped off being on mixes, but I was trying to touch an audience of don't knows.
Being in Europe that's kind of easy because I'm peeping the mix to cats who never heard most of the artists. And I know people who've asked questions and peeped CD's as a result.
And off this site and others a lot of Bay cats have downloaded my mix too.. and I'm sure rather than being at the expense of buying an album, they went swooped CD's of artists I played.
That is promotion plain and simple so I would laugh at the idea I've taken bread off someone's table, I've done the opposite, and matter of fact it costs me money when I put mixes up.
I'm sure Mark, or the Siccness Radio cats will tell you. When you download it costs that site bandwidth. My last mix was 75MB and was downloaded 500-1000 times. I paid for that.
I'm not involved enough to speak on anyone else business and I'm not here to do that, but I will say that this is a nice thread, its a question which needed asking at the moment.
Unless I see an artist on a mixtape hosting that shit and making it official, I don't know where the selling bit comes from apart from someone getting their hustle on, since it ain't official.
But as far as putting it down free goes, in so far as what Mark does, and what I did a couple of times... does anyone affiliated with artists have a problem with that? Why would they?
I can't see it... Anyway we all got common sense and can tell the difference between some cat throwing half of someones new album on a so-called mixtape, and a real mix.
So to me Dana and Angie are right to ask that question, I ain't mad at it, matter of fact I'm interested myself - its a mixtape every minute at the moment and they all cost....
That's a lot of extra competition for a fans money, so it is some shit that will take food out the actual artists mouths. And to do that with their own material... that's an issue right there.
Interesting post nonetheless... I hope people who do it for free (and like Mark says, play a variety of artists, not just rip off a bunch of tracks) keep it moving, to me they promoting.
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Off top one other point comes to mind...
A lot of Bay artists have recently been putting out short or thrown together mixtapes of their own, off a bunch of platinum beats or commercial tracks. Everyone is doing it lol..
Some of those are fire (Done Deal, PSD), but there's a lot of them about. Now to me when you do that, and build a mixtape culture so quick, is it a surprise cats want to jump in the game?
I mean first of all people are now buying Bay Area mixtapes. It's a business. But most of them have no or few Bay beats. So there you go, there's your opening for people to pay for Bay music... mixed.
I'm not saying that deejays who exploit this are right to do it, but I can see why cats are all up in the game now slanging their mixes, and I think the recent trend of artists doing mixtapes has fuelled that.
So artists can't be too mad if they've created the game lol I'm probably just playing devils advocate here... I mean you could even say as far as artists using beats from other cats for their mixtapes, they're doing it to... what goes around...
Nah... I'm playin... that's not my view... but on the real, I've never really liked the idea of paying money for a mixtape that wasn't exclusive or freestyles or artists going over new beats, so I agree with the question being asked...
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A lot of Bay artists have recently been putting out short or thrown together mixtapes of their own, off a bunch of platinum beats or commercial tracks. Everyone is doing it lol..
Some of those are fire (Done Deal, PSD), but there's a lot of them about. Now to me when you do that, and build a mixtape culture so quick, is it a surprise cats want to jump in the game?
I mean first of all people are now buying Bay Area mixtapes. It's a business. But most of them have no or few Bay beats. So there you go, there's your opening for people to pay for Bay music... mixed.
I'm not saying that deejays who exploit this are right to do it, but I can see why cats are all up in the game now slanging their mixes, and I think the recent trend of artists doing mixtapes has fuelled that.
So artists can't be too mad if they've created the game lol I'm probably just playing devils advocate here... I mean you could even say as far as artists using beats from other cats for their mixtapes, they're doing it to... what goes around...
Nah... I'm playin... that's not my view... but on the real, I've never really liked the idea of paying money for a mixtape that wasn't exclusive or freestyles or artists going over new beats, so I agree with the question being asked...
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think of it like this too - the artists want something out of this mixtape thing. if you're a noname dj then u putting my shit on a mix w/o permission does that help me the artist? that really just helps the dj & it ain't shit but bootlegging. conversely a rick lee, scotty fox, big von mix has legitimacy and credibility that it adds to any artist featured on their tapes. (ie; oh i saw that new mc get busy track on big von's new mix blah balh blah) (i am a big supporter of bay djs doin mixes and givin em to bootleggers like nyc, but it probably aint gonna happen) then again u can't hate on a dj cuz he's a new booty... well you can i guess. also theres also a difference between cd mixing and vinyl mixing.
i don't think the mixtape will ever crack in the bay like in ny. the culture is too different and theres too much opposition for it here.
i don't think the mixtape will ever crack in the bay like in ny. the culture is too different and theres too much opposition for it here.
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^^^niggaz gone still buy it,wit your sticker on it or not,
and 1 more comment,bout the mixtape sceen being like ny,ARE U SERIOUS U DONT THINK ITS GOING TO B LIKE BAY(yeah right)...watch......... have u been to the mixatpe section lately,i seem to remember u have a (mixtapewhat ever compalation)called block stars,AND It WAS ALL ON INDUSTRY BEATS..................
"a rick lee, scotty fox, big von mix has legitimacy and credibility "
^^^^its all the same for other djs like my self........(im my case)..i dont make commerical radio mixtapes,im from the BAY AREA,I take a east coast style and bring it to the bay(almost evry artist on my mixtapes i have a drop and exclusives from)
let me name sum dj's doing there thang thang and not radio djs.............
dj juice
dj armen
*me
icewater
daric b
john dough
spair
demolition men
danny dee
backside
oakland faders
e rock
......................etc
what ever, tho keep thinking what ever you want,cause no of us dj will stop,(i.e even if you put a sticker over our cd covers)lol thats a good 1.....
and i forgot about
shortkut
apallo
quest
dough boy
spider eyes
fingerbangers
are u serious right now 3 yrs ago they we no mixtape djs(THAT DROPPED MIXTAPES EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS,OR CONTINUESLY ON A WEEK TO WEEK BASCIS ,noW there just mulitplying
TOO BAD.
cause shyt aint going to stop!.........if i hurt any1 feelings my bad,no disrespect