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The Red Sin said:
Well then it depends, if you believe God is all powerful, can he himself be the source of light? I believe so, but then again, people have their own beliefs.
Yes, but see above.
I don't deny the Big Bang theory, hard core evangelistic creationists are quick to deny or try to refute anything scientific or what they believe is contrary. I believe, if the Big Bang theory was true, it was the work of God, as far as there being no light without the sun, once again refer to my initial response.
True, but according to what we now understand, given that God was the source of light, why can't we go on the notion or theory that he was the light, and the earth rotated regardless of the sun's existence or not?
True, but usually, if God spoke about days being Years, he would have gave a waiting period. Like the 40 days, Noah was in the Ark, it was literally 40 days, not 40 years, of non stop rain. Then you see Daniel, 1260 Days=1260 Years, during that time, from the time Daniel wrote his book and prophecied about Israel being a nation, it took 1260 Years from his time until 1948 when Israel was an Israeli State. Then in Revelation 11:3 The two Witnesses will Prophecy for 3 1/2 years equivalent to 1260 days, or close to it. Bottom line is, if you're a bible scholar, Novice or Advanced, if you are able to comprehend the original text, meanings, and interactions during those times, you'll be able to get a grasp of the text. Most Bible Scholars, in unison, take the 6 day creation literally. Must we go on, the popular belief? No, but upon further review, it is to be taken literally.
I can agree with everything that you just said (theoretically), it seems logical given faith. But as far as God being all powerful, and creating light (for us) before he created the Sun, I also asked why.. Hypothetically I can see how, just not why.. Today, the only light that guides us is the Sun, unless you're to say that God is the light (which is acceptable) but God didn't create himself, his light always was so to say that he created actual light before the Sun is almost absurd (imo of course).. Where is that created light today? So it's hard to take that literally for me. And also, if the earth rotated, it still wouldn't constitute a "day", because the components of "day" is sun light and the Sun wasn't there. Remember, Jonah was in the belly of the whale for 3 days and 3 nights. The only thing that separates day and night is the sun. And how can you have a day with out a night? Hope I'm not being confusing.
 
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Today, the only light that guides us is the Sun, unless you're to say the God is the light (which is acceptable) but God didn't create himself
In the Midst of the dark void, he was the only light. In the first day, he created light, but what could the light have looked like? All white, just like a sketch board waiting to get drawn on right? Just like the whiteness that the Lord created before he created all things. Light is not exclusive to solar rays, and moon light. You're right about him not creating himself, he was already in existence, biblically speaking.
his light always was so to say that he created actual light before the Sun is almost absurd (imo of course).. Where is that created light today?
Look above, and refer to my simile on a the sketch board.
And also, if the earth rotated, it still wouldn't constitute a "day", because the components of "day" is sun light and the Sun wasn't there.
Once again, Light isn't exclusive to the sun, so why couldn't the earth rotate, without the sun, and why would we need the sun for a day to be considered a Day. Remember what New Jerusalem's light source was going to be? Jesus alone, no sun, no moon light, just like the beginning of creation.
Remember, Jonah was in the belly of the whale for 3 days and 3 nights. The only think that separates day and night is the sun. And how can you have a day with out a night?
Have you ever been to Alaska, you have the sun up for a 24 hour Period. So how can the Natives call it yesterday or tomorrow if the sun never sets?
 
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I BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD NOT COEXIST (DINOS AND HUMANS). IF THEY EVERY WERE HUNTED WHERE ARE THE TROPHY'S? HUMANS LOVE COLLECTING AND DISPLAYING THEIR GAME. WHY IS IT WHEN WE STUMBLE UPON BONES IN THE PAST HUNDRED YEARS ITS A BIG THING? SHOULD WE HAVE HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THESE THUNDER LIZARDS?

AND THE GRAND CANYON IT LOOKS LIKE YEARS OF EROSION TENS OF THOUSAND ITS A MILE DEEP THAT WATER COULD HAVE JUST EVAPORATED?

AND THE HEAD SIZE THING. COULD BE TRUE OR NOT I AINT GOT THE SLIGHTEST IDEA ABOUT ALL THAT STUFF.
IF I HAD A BETTER WAY TO ACCESS THE NET OTHER THAN SIDE KICK I'D CHECK THE VIDS. THAT'S ALL FOR ME.
 
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The Red Sin said:
In the Midst of the dark void, he was the only light. In the first day, he created light, but what could the light have looked like? All white, just like a sketch board waiting to get drawn on right? Just like the whiteness that the Lord created before he created all things. Light is not exclusive to solar rays, and moon light. You're right about him not creating himself, he was already in existence, biblically speaking.
Look above, and refer to my simile on a the sketch board.
Once again, Light isn't exclusive to the sun, so why couldn't the earth rotate, without the sun, and why would we need the sun for a day to be considered a Day. Remember what New Jerusalem's light source was going to be? Jesus alone, no sun, no moon light, just like the beginning of creation.
Have you ever been to Alaska, you have the sun up for a 24 hour Period. So how can the Natives call it yesterday or tomorrow if the sun never sets?
You did a good job explaining the first light, actually I agree after thinking about it. That light can still be detected in cosmic background radiation. But I don't understand how you tried to explain day and night in regards to the sun and earth's rotation. Ok, I can agree now that light isn't exclusive to sun light, but there's still a rotation problem. When you turn your back on the light (whatever light that may be), it's night now. But ok, say that the light surrounded the entire planet from all sides, ok, now "day" is continuous and you have no point of reference to compare it to anything, it's just constant. Therefore, what would be "one day".. And the event in Alaska you're referring to is Summer Soltice, and it only happens one day a year because of earth's tilt, and its northern position to the sun in the Summer time.
 
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I BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD NOT COEXIST (DINOS AND HUMANS). IF THEY EVERY WERE HUNTED WHERE ARE THE TROPHY'S? HUMANS LOVE COLLECTING AND DISPLAYING THEIR GAME.
Nice Logic their bud*sarcasm*, that shouldn't be used as an excuse why they weren't extinct by humans. People might have had to defend themselves, just like people do when Tigers, Wolves and Bears are killing people, in most cases, it's not a matter of keeping it as a trophy, well sometimes, but it could have been for consumption and defense.
WHY IS IT WHEN WE STUMBLE UPON BONES IN THE PAST HUNDRED YEARS ITS A BIG THING?
These, bones or fossil which we find, have bone structures that no other animals that modern day man, has seen, which is why we still find fossils and bones in amazement.
SHOULD WE HAVE HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THESE THUNDER LIZARDS?
Of course, you can use the "Dragons" the english spoke about, in their legends, the Chinese, speak of Dragons big Lizards. Most folklore are derived from actual living things, that might have died off.
AND THE GRAND CANYON IT LOOKS LIKE YEARS OF EROSION TENS OF THOUSAND ITS A MILE DEEP THAT WATER COULD HAVE JUST EVAPORATED?
Why Couldn't well, if you add to the fact that the Flood was hard continuous rain, couldn't you make a case for the flood once again? It's not like, it stopped raining after the flood. As far as the water evaporating, it's a desert homie. Of course it would evaporate quickly, look at Israel.
 
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When you turn your back on the light (whatever light that may be), it's night now.
Are you talking about your shadow? If you take Video Production class, and if you're going to use the Green Screen, you're also going to need to artificial lights, so let's say these lights, are the Light of God. The First Light is to put you on the camera, and make a nice visual. The Second light, is to light the green screen behind you, so that there is no shadow, with light all around you, there is no shadow or darkness. Well..I don't get what you meant by, when you turn around it night, please explain.
But ok, say that the light surrounded the entire planet from all sides, ok, now "day" is continuous and you have no point of reference to compare it to anything, it's just constant. Therefore, what would be "one day"
The 24 Hour Period, ok let's use the Summer Soltice, isn't there constant light withing that 24 hour period? Yes, neither does the moon appear or the sight of darkness in the sky, but as the 24 hours in a day passes, does it constitute a day passed? Yes, because whether the moon or darkness appear in the sky, the earth rotates nonetheless.
 
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Are you talking about your shadow? If you take Video Production class, and if you're going to use the Green Screen, you're also going to need to artificial lights, so let's say these lights, are the Light of God. The First Light is to put you on the camera, and make a nice visual. The Second light, is to light the green screen behind you, so that there is no shadow, with light all around you, there is no shadow or darkness. Well..I don't get what you meant by, when you turn around it night, please explain.
When you turn around (rotate 180 degrees). You know, like how China is on the other side of the planet, where it should be daylight right now. It's night time now for us because we're not facing the sun, "our backs are turned"..

The 24 Hour Period, ok let's use the Summer Soltice, isn't there constant light withing that 24 hour period? Yes, neither does the moon appear or the sight of darkness in the sky, but as the 24 hours in a day passes, does it constitute a day passed? Yes, because whether the moon or darkness appear in the sky, the earth rotates nonetheless.
Summer Solstice doesn't last 24 hours (that's impossible), it's simply the longest day of the year and can last up to maybe 20 hours in the northern hemisphere, but never the full 24, that's impossible, the earth would have to be horizontal in respect to the Sun, and it isn't of course, just tilted at a certain degree. It's still a day because the day is longer and the night is shorter, but we still have intervals and something to compare it to (night), that's why it's considered the longest day..
 
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650Ubeezy said:
You seem a little defensive. I was just curious because Im partly Egyptian.
I apologize if you got the wrong impression, but I wasn't being defensive at all, maybe you're just sensitive. It's coo bruh bruh..