MAGICAL EGYPT!
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mrrocnron said:
How do you have an intelligent conversation with people that can not speak intelligible inglish??? 
I think that he was talking about you bro, lol!
I'm not sure if you should take that literally bruh. Wouldn't you think that the correct interpretation should be that the earth was created in 6 epochs (not literal 24 hour days) and that the genealogy from Adam to Moses could be condensed? Because following the genealogy in the Bible exactly will lead people to believe that the earth was created in 4400 B.C... But actually Mesopotamia had a written record as far back as 5000 B.C (7,000 years ago), not to mention that calendars in Egypt go back to around the same time. The only thing that I can say is that around that time (6 - 7,000 years ago) people showed a period of abrupt change in technological achievement and civilization, which is sort of fishy. Not enough to get me to believe that that's around the time humans were first created though, there's even wackier theories than that even. Like Aliens called the Anunnaki, who exchanged genes with mankind and jump started civilization. But that's crap too, it's all human development over time imo.
I'm not sure if you should take that literally bruh. Wouldn't you think that the correct interpretation should be that the earth was created in 6 epochs (not literal 24 hour days) and that the genealogy from Adam to Moses could be condensed? Because following the genealogy in the Bible exactly will lead people to believe that the earth was created in 4400 B.C... But actually Mesopotamia had a written record as far back as 5000 B.C (7,000 years ago), not to mention that calendars in Egypt go back to around the same time. The only thing that I can say is that around that time (6 - 7,000 years ago) people showed a period of abrupt change in technological achievement and civilization, which is sort of fishy. Not enough to get me to believe that that's around the time humans were first created though, there's even wackier theories than that even. Like Aliens called the Anunnaki, who exchanged genes with mankind and jump started civilization. But that's crap too, it's all human development over time imo.
The Anunnaki also can be related to the Nepthalim of the bible. You're right about the generations from Abraham to Moses might of been condensed, but IMO, contrary to creationist belief, I believed the world is closer to 12000 years old, going on the records of Mesopotamia like you said. In any case, it's not a big concern of mine.
Let's say he took 2 Terradactyls in the boat. So there would be 2 in the boat, and the rest would be out in the air with no where to land, so if they become fatigued, where should they land? Shouldn't they have died, or rested on a mountain and died when the water rose and covered the mountains? Then you ask, what about the 2 terradactlys that survived in the Ark, how many species of animals has man killed of the face of this earth?
so if dinosaurs died during the flood (along with humans) y havent they found bones of dino's and humans together. and damn thats alot of animals man has found remains of over the years how did everything coexist? and what about different species of man they have found?? where those species slaves of sum sort? and was man around for the grand canyon to get jacked?? enlighten me por favor
They have found footprints, but then this wouldn't signify the flood, but have they found Neanderthal remains along side of Dinosaurs? Yes. I could site a source using google, but then you'd call me a google scholar. Which many people are, when they need to site a source.
Can we really explain things, through mere opinions, can we truly say that the T-rex, savagedly kill men? Why couldn't they co-exist?
I wear a size 7 1/2, I know a dude who wears a size 8 1/2 hat, compare our skulls, when we're dead.
Maybe, quite possibly so.
Couldn't a meteor hit earth, after the flood? Yes, the flood not only killed the remaining humans, and God did promised not to commit genocide towards humans with a flood, but he never Promised that he wouldn't use acts of nature towards man.
Can we really explain things, through mere opinions, can we truly say that the T-rex, savagedly kill men? Why couldn't they co-exist?
I wear a size 7 1/2, I know a dude who wears a size 8 1/2 hat, compare our skulls, when we're dead.
Maybe, quite possibly so.
Couldn't a meteor hit earth, after the flood? Yes, the flood not only killed the remaining humans, and God did promised not to commit genocide towards humans with a flood, but he never Promised that he wouldn't use acts of nature towards man.
I know what footprints you're talking about. The majority of them have been debunked by scientists and even abandoned by creationists. The evidence isn't compelling and a lot of the footprints were doctored up. I don't mind posting google links, coz google is the shit.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html
And I think that if humans lived with dinosaurs, we'd be extinct, even if we were giants. And why would a meteor need to come after the flood? Wouldn't a meteor kill us also? I hear the argument that we killed off the last of the dinosaurs when we were out slaying dragons and stuff. Possibly, but shouldn't we find caves with dragon fossils, or corpses frozen in ice somewhere in Northen Europe, Northern Asia, or somewhere else up north like we did with the wholly mammoth and some humans?
Btw, I'm with you as a creationist, just the timing is an issue. Evolution is bullshit and can be proven with findings of recent carcasses of aimals thought to be extinct for millions of years, yet after millions of years the animals are still here and they're still able to identify it as the same species, therefore it didn't evolve. Look up all of the findings on Cryptozoology and the Plesiosaur.. They've found a one month old carcass in Japan (though some say it was a decaying shark, even though they never tested it and only went by a photo), a beach in the U.S.(this dude actually seen it die), and the Loch Ness Monster is a Plesiosaur..
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html
And I think that if humans lived with dinosaurs, we'd be extinct, even if we were giants. And why would a meteor need to come after the flood? Wouldn't a meteor kill us also? I hear the argument that we killed off the last of the dinosaurs when we were out slaying dragons and stuff. Possibly, but shouldn't we find caves with dragon fossils, or corpses frozen in ice somewhere in Northen Europe, Northern Asia, or somewhere else up north like we did with the wholly mammoth and some humans?
Btw, I'm with you as a creationist, just the timing is an issue. Evolution is bullshit and can be proven with findings of recent carcasses of aimals thought to be extinct for millions of years, yet after millions of years the animals are still here and they're still able to identify it as the same species, therefore it didn't evolve. Look up all of the findings on Cryptozoology and the Plesiosaur.. They've found a one month old carcass in Japan (though some say it was a decaying shark, even though they never tested it and only went by a photo), a beach in the U.S.(this dude actually seen it die), and the Loch Ness Monster is a Plesiosaur..
@Parkboyz, which is Why I dismissed the footprints read
As far as your time frame goes, do you know the hebrew meaning for Yom? Depends on how you look at things, it's a 24 hour period, or a solar day. I know the bible, in it's entirety shouldn't be taken literally, but the 6 day creation should. Let's say we take it literally, which I do, being a typical creationist. If scientists tell us that all forms of life is ancient, and that the stars have been around for billions of years. Now look at Genesis 1:3-6, God Creates Light on the first day, then in Genesis 1:14-19 he creates the moon and Sun. Going by the bible and if taken literally, it took God, 4 Days to make the sun, moon and Stars. So how you could believe the earth is billions of years old?
1. Why would I classify as Egyptian when I said that I was born in America and raised in America?
2. No, I don't have any recent relatives (that I know of) that were born and raised in Egypt, all of them were born in America.
3. Am I just "another" race fascinated with Egypt? That depends, again, you have to be more direct. What is the phrase "another race" in reference to? Who is the other, a different race from whom? As far as my "ethnicity", I don't identify with any ethnicity in particular because that is a title forced upon people, constricted by flimsy definitions. But by definition let's see..
"The term "African American," while different, usually describe the descendants whose ancestors, usually in predominant part, were indigenous to Africa."
^Since my ancestors came from the continent of Africa, by definition I must be African American I guess.
Haha, you're sharp. I'm not versed in Hebrew but if Yom = 1 Solar day, then I guess you're right. Would I still take it literally though? No, because if I did I'd be forced to question why or how in the hell did God create light with out any stars present? We all know, if you're religious or not, that light comes from the sun. The only way that I can reconcile that is by attributing the Big Bang to God (let there be light). And an even bigger problem, how can 3 days go by with out the Sun? That's how we judge 24 hours cycles in the first place. So "Yom" probably literally means day, but it can't be a "24 hour earthly rotation".
Just did a tiny bit of research and supposedly that the Hebrews had no other word for Epoch besides Yom. So whenever they referred to a long period of time they described it as Yom and that Yom was used in more than one context in the old testament. You've done a good job defending young earth creationism though, I want to see your response to that.
2. No, I don't have any recent relatives (that I know of) that were born and raised in Egypt, all of them were born in America.
3. Am I just "another" race fascinated with Egypt? That depends, again, you have to be more direct. What is the phrase "another race" in reference to? Who is the other, a different race from whom? As far as my "ethnicity", I don't identify with any ethnicity in particular because that is a title forced upon people, constricted by flimsy definitions. But by definition let's see..
"The term "African American," while different, usually describe the descendants whose ancestors, usually in predominant part, were indigenous to Africa."
^Since my ancestors came from the continent of Africa, by definition I must be African American I guess.
Haha, you're sharp. I'm not versed in Hebrew but if Yom = 1 Solar day, then I guess you're right. Would I still take it literally though? No, because if I did I'd be forced to question why or how in the hell did God create light with out any stars present? We all know, if you're religious or not, that light comes from the sun. The only way that I can reconcile that is by attributing the Big Bang to God (let there be light). And an even bigger problem, how can 3 days go by with out the Sun? That's how we judge 24 hours cycles in the first place. So "Yom" probably literally means day, but it can't be a "24 hour earthly rotation".
Just did a tiny bit of research and supposedly that the Hebrews had no other word for Epoch besides Yom. So whenever they referred to a long period of time they described it as Yom and that Yom was used in more than one context in the old testament. You've done a good job defending young earth creationism though, I want to see your response to that.
Well then it depends, if you believe God is all powerful, can he himself be the source of light? I believe so, but then again, people have their own beliefs.
Yes, but see above.
I don't deny the Big Bang theory, hard core evangelistic creationists are quick to deny or try to refute anything scientific or what they believe is contrary. I believe, if the Big Bang theory was true, it was the work of God, as far as there being no light without the sun, once again refer to my initial response.
True, but according to what we now understand, given that God was the source of light, why can't we go on the notion or theory that he was the light, and the earth rotated regardless of the sun's existence or not?
True, but usually, if God spoke about days being Years, he would have gave a waiting period. Like the 40 days, Noah was in the Ark, it was literally 40 days, not 40 years, of non stop rain. Then you see Daniel, 1260 Days=1260 Years, during that time, from the time Daniel wrote his book and prophecied about Israel being a nation, it took 1260 Years from his time until 1948 when Israel was an Israeli State. Then in Revelation 11:3 The two Witnesses will Prophecy for 3 1/2 years equivalent to 1260 days, or close to it. Bottom line is, if you're a bible scholar, Novice or Advanced, if you are able to comprehend the original text, meanings, and interactions during those times, you'll be able to get a grasp of the text. Most Bible Scholars, in unison, take the 6 day creation literally. Must we go on, the popular belief? No, but upon further review, it is to be taken literally.
Yes, but see above.
I don't deny the Big Bang theory, hard core evangelistic creationists are quick to deny or try to refute anything scientific or what they believe is contrary. I believe, if the Big Bang theory was true, it was the work of God, as far as there being no light without the sun, once again refer to my initial response.
True, but according to what we now understand, given that God was the source of light, why can't we go on the notion or theory that he was the light, and the earth rotated regardless of the sun's existence or not?
True, but usually, if God spoke about days being Years, he would have gave a waiting period. Like the 40 days, Noah was in the Ark, it was literally 40 days, not 40 years, of non stop rain. Then you see Daniel, 1260 Days=1260 Years, during that time, from the time Daniel wrote his book and prophecied about Israel being a nation, it took 1260 Years from his time until 1948 when Israel was an Israeli State. Then in Revelation 11:3 The two Witnesses will Prophecy for 3 1/2 years equivalent to 1260 days, or close to it. Bottom line is, if you're a bible scholar, Novice or Advanced, if you are able to comprehend the original text, meanings, and interactions during those times, you'll be able to get a grasp of the text. Most Bible Scholars, in unison, take the 6 day creation literally. Must we go on, the popular belief? No, but upon further review, it is to be taken literally.