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techn9nehq said:
In my experience.....you don't get an attitude with cops. Plain and simple.


No reason for her to carry on like a little baby for 5 mins after getting tazered.
So you watched that video and the only problem you have is with the woman? You got no prob with the cops doing shit like that? You dont think they could have handled the situation any differently rather than sending 50,000 volts through her body?



Fuck the police and any snitch that supports them
 
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Racist ass punk police. Imagine if that was your mom on the phone with you and all you hear is some bigot ass pigs hollerin shit and pluggin your moms with them taser darts, she screamin and shit. If that was my mom Id want to see that piggy ground up into some bacon bits.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Fuck the police and any snitch that supports them
I'm interested in how exactly you propose a society should maintain order. Even close knit communities in an anarchic society are going to have enforcers. Are you saying fuck any and every police officer across the globe, or just fuck them because they're employees of a government you happen to hate?
 
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I <3 BUTTERFLYS said:
I'm interested in how exactly you propose a society should maintain order. Even close knit communities in an anarchic society are going to have enforcers. Are you saying fuck any and every police officer across the globe, or just fuck them because they're employees of a government you happen to hate?
Fuck any and all police that serve the rich ruling elite classes across the globe, in other words, fuck all police under capitalist societies. Police are supposed to protect and serve the people but under capitalist societies they are agents of the ruling class whom they serve and protect.

2-0-Sixx said:
police are oppressive by nature. Always have been and always will be. The entire system we live in is oppressive- the police, the army, the judicial system, the courts, the prisons, etc. It is an oppressive apparatus and the police are a part of it.
 

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that is all bad that she got tased. They had every right to tell her to get out of the car and arrest her since she was driving with a suspended license...the example somebody used "what if that was your mom"...Of course I would be mad, but then again my mom would NEVER drive with a suspended license and her being by herself she's smart enough to know to cooperate especially if she is in the wrong(which this girl was)..I dont know who told her she could chop it up on the phone and the popo's had to wait for her to finish...that girl was ignorant and has NO survival smarts at all...she act like she was going to prison...

If I were the cops, I would not have tased her, but then again I dont know what I would have done...I would feel stupid tasing a female, especially if she doesn't pose as a threat to me...in this case since you can clearly tell the girl was scared, I would have tried to assure her that she was going to get her chance to use the phone and probably make sure she felt safe(or at least attepted)..As a cop you have to have people skills..You cant communicate with a scared female the same way you would talk to a guy or a hardcore criminal...I felt he tried a lil, but resorted to his taser wayyy too early..He didnt have to pull out the gun either(thatz what she said)...

All I can say is, Im glad i'm not a cop...because 1 I care too much about people, which could lead to your death...and I probably would have taken my time and tried to make sure the girl knew she was gonna get booked but that she would be ok...I dont know..I'm not a cop so I dont have to worry about that...I'm not about to tell someone how to do their job, because as a cop you really cant trust the motorists that you pull over but then again thatz the job you chose as a career so you owe the civilians the right to not be trigger happy or taser happy..If you that scared of loosing your life, then retire, because your life will constantly be on the line....all bad situation though....
 
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Train1983 said:
They had every right to tell her to get out of the car and arrest her since she was driving with a suspended license...
They didn’t know she had a suspended license until after the incident.

the example somebody used "what if that was your mom"...Of course I would be mad, but then again my mom would NEVER drive with a suspended license and her being by herself she's smart enough to know to cooperate especially if she is in the wrong(which this girl was)..
Completely irrelevant. Regardless if she was guilty or not- the police were wrong for shooting 50,000 volts through her body. Was she a threat to the officers? Did she have a weapon? Were there other alternatives than tazing her?

I dont know who told her she could chop it up on the phone and the popo's had to wait for her to finish...that girl was ignorant and has NO survival smarts at all...she act like she was going to prison...
She can talk on the phone if she wants. Regardless if it's smart or not, does it give the right to the officers to attack the woman?

If I were the cops, I would not have tased her, but then again I dont know what I would have done...I would feel stupid tasing a female, especially if she aint no threat to me...in this case since you can clearly tell the girl was scared, I would have tried to assure her that she was going to get her chance to use the phone and probably make sure she felt safe(or at least attepted)..As a cop you have to have people skills..You cant communicate with a scared female the same way you would talk to a guy or a hardcore criminal...I felt he tried a lil, but resorted to his taser wayyy too early..He didnt have to pull out the gun either(thatz what she said)...
All I can say is, Im glad i'm not a cop...because 1 I care too much about people, which could lead to your death...and I probably would have taken my time and tried to make sure the girl knew she was gonna get booked but that she would be ok...
God forbid police care about the people!!!

I dont know..I'm not a cop so I dont have to worry about that...I'm not about to tell someone how to do their job..all bad situation though....
Yeah, lets just all forget about the daily police brutality that occurs in amerika. Don’t worry, be happy.
 

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2-0-Sixx said:
They didn’t know she had a suspended license until after the incident.
I didnt know that


2-0-Sixx said:
Completely irrelevant. Regardless if she was guilty or not- the police were wrong for shooting 50,000 volts through her body. Was she a threat to the officers? Did she have a weapon? Were there other alternatives than tazing her?

I didnt say tasing her was ok at all...I said asking her to step out the car and put down her phone was ok, but then again I thought they already knew her license was suspended and were about to book her....


2-0-Sixx said:
She can talk on the phone if she wants. Regardless if it's smart or not, does it give the right to the officers to attack the woman?
Like I said, I didnt think the tasing was necessary at all....If they asked her to get off the phone and she was like NO, then she obviously aint trying to hear them...I dont know what I would have done, but I know I would NOT have tased homegirl....Since when do niggaz gotta wait for you to get off the phone before you cooperate? These werent her homeboys...she should have met them half way..they still shouldnt have tased her, but she could have done a better job at meeting them halfway...itz not even about what the popo's will do, because you dont know what that particular individual will do in terms of how he would react, but at the same time you have to make choices that will keep you safe in ANY scenario...Dont give them niggaz NO leeway or even a single excuse for them to be able to back themselves up..itz not about pleasing the popo, itz about doing whatz best to protect yourself....Im not about to act stupid and hope that the officer doesnt use force on me..i wont even give him the chance to even think about it, because I wouldnt be acting like a foo..sometimes cops want people to act out so they can use force on them...why give cops a reason to even think about using force...If that were me, we would not have been having this conversation, because I know not to put my life in the hands of another mans judgment...he could have been crazy in the head and just shot her.. and we would have been saying "that was definately uncalled for and they should go to prison", which is true, but at the end of the day SHE IS STILL DEAD and aint no coming back from that......that would have definately been all bad, but my point is you have to protect yourself and not give anyone a go ahead to harm you or use any force towards you....





2-0-Sixx said:
God forbid police care about the people!!!
lol...thatz not what I meant..You are good at changing things around, or maybe I should have explained it better....I said that I couldnt be a cop, because I care/trust people too much..I try to give them the benefit of a doubt, but having that kind of mindset as an officer will definately get you killed, especially in America....You cant trust everyone, which means you have to be on the defense at all times as a cop...Then again, if you are scared to lose your life to the point where you will shoot someone just because they flinched, then you REALLY dont need to be an officer...As a cop you have to be willing to die and if you're not then dont be a cop....becuase it doesnt make any sense for a cop to shoot someone because they thought the wallet the guy was holding was a gun..NO people should not be loosing their lives for mistakes like that....



2-0-Sixx said:
Yeah, lets just all forget about the daily police brutality that occurs in amerika. Don’t worry, be happy.

lol..not what i meant at all...I meant I dont label all officers bad because of a few bad ones...how can I say all cops are bad? That is ignorance at its finest..thatz like me saying all whites are racist because what was done to my ancestors..I cant say that...
 
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Train1983 said:
I dont know what I would have done, but I know I would NOT have tased homegirl....
That's good.

she should have met them half way..they still shouldnt have tased her, but she could have done a better job at meeting them halfway..
Again, thats irrelevent. Regardless if she was cooperative or not, there is no excuse for the police to tase her. Was she trippin? Yeah, probably, but again, irrelivent. The issue here is whether or not the police used accessive force.

i wont even give him the chance to even think about it, because I wouldnt be acting like a foo..sometimes cops want people to act out so they can use force on them...why give cops a reason to even think about using force...If that were me, we would not have been having this conversation, because I know not to put my life in the hands of another mans judgment...
I understand that but the issue here is police brutality and how it got to the point where citizens have to live in fear everytime they are approached by a police officer. What kind of society are we living in? "May I see your papers, boy." All I'm trying to bring to this discussion is to make people think why, and why are things the way they are.

he could have been crazy and just shot her..
lmao

that would have definately been all bad, but my point is you have to protect yourself and not give anyone a go ahead to harm you or use any force towards you....
And my point is that it shouldnt be that way.

I said that I couldnt be a cop, because I care/trust people too much..I try to give them the benefit of a doubt, but having that kind of mindset as an officer will definately get you killed, especially in America....[/quote]

Word, in amerika in order to be a police officer you gotta be a cutthroat, a killer, a snitch, a racist, a pig, a lier, a cheat, but definately not a humanitarian.


lol..not what i meant at all...I meant I dont label all officers bad because of a few bad ones...how can I say all cops are bad? That is ignorance at its finest..thatz like me saying all whites are racist because what was done to my ancestors..I cant say that...
I never said anything about all cops being bad. I do not place the blame of the vast amount of corruption and brutality on individual police men and women; these are merely products of our system and the police’s function is to enforce oppressive laws, protect the property of the ruling class and to enforce the policies of the Republican and Democratic parties. Police brutality occurs on a daily basis in Amerika and that is not a result of just a few bad apples. But even these so called good cops still must enforce oppressive laws and anyone whose job is to enforce corrupt/oppressive statutes is corrupt and oppressive by proxy. That is why I have zero respect for any police officer and that is why I believe no working class amerikan should have any respect for the police.

2-0-Sixx said:
The police have, throughout history, only functioned as an oppressive organization to protect and serve the ruling elite, not the majority of people. Just look at our current system- A rich man who embezzles millions of dollars is less likely to go to jail than a poor man who robs a 7/11 for a hundred dollars. How can that be? Over 2 million are locked up in prison, over 60% black and well over half of the prison population is in debt. In other words, the majority of prisoners are poor. So now you have to look at our system and ask who is more likely to steal? A poor man or a rich man? Who is more likely to go to jail, a poor man or a rich man?link
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
They didn’t know she had a suspended license until after the incident.
That wasn't the very beginning, they had already pulled her over and gotten her license and looked it up, and when it came up suspended they asked her to get out of the car cuz it's a misdameanor n she was under arrest.

Then dude told her 6 times to get outta the car. she's a dumb bitch. im not sayin they hadda taze her, but she should have gotten out of the car instead of giving him attitude even after he pulled the taser on her.
 
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bottom line is these dudes got crazy on a LADY...man.

you mean to tell me that shit is cool with y'all.

these kkkops need to be taught NOT to use force as the FIRST means of negotiations.

these mother fuckers are tazer happy...tazers..the new night stick