@Loki, I got a question

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Aug 26, 2002
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I wanna know is, do you think you would sell more or appeal more if you did not use the word nigga in your songs??????????? It's just a simple question...I ain;t trying to judge u or anything.........

I've bumped your shit for my Warfare folks, and the only problem that they had was u using the N word....at first they thought u was black , and i even showed them Now Eat......but I told them u was white
 
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yeah, of course i would sell more.
it's a controversial issue no matter how
you look at it. i'm resistent to candy-coat
my reality here but to others, in their reality,
some of it is offensive. i might sell more too
if i didn't use the word "bitch," we all know
how much of the buying public is female.

for those who can recognize the context
within which "nigga" is used, it's all good.
for those who don't, i can't judge 'em, shit
i can understand people's offense at the
word. there's a whole experience out
there in black america that us white folks
can't fully understand.

in my city the word is common & thrown
around with recklessness. neighborhoods
got asain, white, black, hispanic & russian
all in the same spot. there's a higher degree
of tolerance here than in most other places.
you won't see as many inter-racial couples
& bi-racial children (mine's 1 of 'em) as
you would in sac.

deos that mean i should keep my perspective
strictly from these streets, or should i expand?
i really don't know.... the rest of the world
tends to look at sacramento like we backwards
but i can tell you folks from the 916 are proud
to be from here. i love my city. & my music
reflects that.

so...it's a double-edged sword. i'm damned if
i do, damned if i don't. there's so much
commercialism in hip-hop, do i want to
follow suit? naw, but do i want to pay
the bills? do i let the world & the industry
determine what my music is? some of the
realest niggas i know don't flinch at the
word or the surface tension in it's use.
the real issue isn't the words, it's in the
use of them. & disagreements about the
word "nigga" will be around forever.
 
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@ Loki

It don't matter if you say nigga. I'm black and I'm not offended because I know you didn't use it in a racist form. Nigga is just some slang on the streets for homie,partna,etc,etc.
 
Aug 26, 2002
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good shit, thanks for the reply..............................

I knew you never said Nigga in disrespect........just getting some food for thought.....


as we say in the midwest/midsouth: Do whatcha do..............
 
Apr 26, 2002
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H. T. B said:
It don't matter if you say nigga. I'm black and I'm not offended because I know you didn't use it in a racist form. Nigga is just some slang on the streets for homie,partna,etc,etc.
trueness. fold.
 
Dec 17, 2002
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its not wat you say its how you say it!!

sac is really diverse city!! i hear you loki!!!!cats jus aint know'n bout sac!! like you said i hear so many catz use the word!!(nigga) i prefer not to but thats my choice.ther are catz that call me nigga i dont care tho,theres cats that call me whitey,it'z nothin nada thang out here in sac!! i dig sacramento cuz of the diversity my dad is married to a blacc female!!! i promote interracial dateing and marriges.!! diversity in a good thang!!! most of my folcx are blacc aisin,pinoy,mexican,portarican,mixx'd so right on for diversity!!!
@loki stay street homie its all bout sac cuzzin who care wat catz think!!! as long as you know you gotta alotta love out here !!!
keep don ya thang homie!!
@ jesse james who realy care wat color you are as long as you a real muthafucca???an oviously catz out here aint trippn!!! an if they are tripp'n fucc'em the need to open there mind's
fucc'en go aginst the grain !!!!like de said don't be a link in the chain!!!
sinncerly sinn
thee chemicaly imbalanced!!

A.O.D.- ANCIENT ONE'Z DIALECT
 
Nov 1, 2002
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Anybody that's black and let's that ride, your a disgrace 2 all the 400yrs blk slaves in america Mlk, Malcolm X died for some of this stuff. Whites made that word 2 disrespect black people and now we going turn around and let someone white say it and not do shit. Come on REAL blk people stand up all others eat a casket. Loki if you ever was around me and said that i'd whip yo ass cuz i aint from Sac and in Ohio we don't play dat shit. Just show's me sac got a lot a fac ass niggaz in it. I'm losing more and more respect 4 siccmade. DAMN
 

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Uh, Gods Son, im white, and I dont say nigga. But you need to get with the times dude. Its not being used as a racist term anymore... how can you not see that...

shit im mostly spanish, you can call me a fuckin spick all day and i wont care... just mother fucking words. not like true racism is going on when someone says nigga.

Damn.
 
Nov 1, 2002
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It's not going on anymore?? get with the times?? You honestly think there are people out here who still don't use nigger as a rascist term? You need 2 wake up, you aint even blk so you don't know or feel the struggle. Oh and 4 ya info they call mexicans spic's not spanish people so get ya rascist terms right b4 you come on here ans start acting like you know what the deal is.
 
Dec 17, 2002
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@GODSON.........................................

LOOK HOMIE , YOU WANT TO TALK BOUT APPRESSION LOOK, LOOK AT THE IRISH HOMIE,WE WERE APRESSED FOR LIKE 500YRS
BY THE ENGLISH HOMIE,RAPED ARE WEMAN INSLAVED ALL THE SAME SHIT YOUR TALKN BOUT CUZZIN ARE ANCESTERS HAD BEEN THREW HELL AN WHEN THEY CAME TO AMERICA THE WHERE TREATED LIKE SCUM(WATCH BRAVE HEART AN FAR AN AWAY ) SO DONT GET IT TWISTED HOMIE!! OK !!!! YOU ACT LIKE YOU GOT KNOWLEDGE !!!AT ONE TIME THE IN HISTORY IRISH CATZ HELD THE HIGHST POPULATION IN THE PRIZON SYSTEM!!! BUT THATS THE PAST!!! SO FUCC RASISEM!!!!!AN FUCC THE CLOSED MINDED!!!!
SINNCERLY SINN

P.S. YOU EVER HEARD THE TERM BLACC IRISH???
WELL WE ONE IN THE SAME HOMIE!!!
 
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You can take it as how you say it, i'm taking it as saying it period, if you blk and you say nigga then coo but if you white it's not coo. Yeah i do got knowledge about this subject other wise i wouldn't say anything. The irish and all that yeah they went threw but we as blk people we taken from our land and made 2 live here, how deep is that! We don't even know who we really are and then you got these uncle tom niggaz who say it's ok 4 a white person to say nigga this and nigga that. We got blk people who think they white, don't even relize who they are. Blk people got it the worst out of all races cuz we got taken from out land. So all you stressing is useless, everything you say is all garbage cuz you can't campare blk history to irish history.
 
Nov 17, 2002
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The word "nigga" in and of itself is JUST A WORD.

It is the meaning behind the word which makes it negative or positive.

The word "gay" used to mean happy waaaayy back in the day. But its meaning changed with the times. Don't give the word "nigga" any more power than it really has, NONE. Understand the context in which it is used and move on...
 
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you cant compare blacc history to irish history............

you must be joke'n homie!!!!learn bout it!!!we as irsh history
an blacc history is almost perallel irish history needs to be brought to light jus like blacc history not american history but the truth!!!!!! the word nigga i dont use!!jus open your eyes homie!!
an refuse to!!what is wrong with a blacc being edgicated??jus cuz the edgicated blacc cat dosent speek in (ebonics) that refuses to stay in the ghetto make them you a uncle tom???an becuz a whyt cat lives in the ghetto an says the word nigga make him want to be blacc??? it all depends on where your from homie!!see thats so stereo type shyt!!fucc all that cuz times is diffrent homie move on !!!! i wont use the word !!! an i thin blacc catz shouln't use the word!! thats my opinion!!but if yall choose to use the word thats your choice!!!
peace stay strong!!!! jus open your mind!!!!
sinncerly sinn
 

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@ god's son - the word "nigga" is made big by blacks not white's, if there werent all these black rappers sayin the word then others wouldn't either.

n the word has a different meaning now then in malcolm x's times.

you see all these "black" people on tv callin white people "crakers n shit" does anybody say shit? no... soon as a white person uses nigga errbody is all up on that? how is that right?

MALCOLM X's AND OTHERRS WANTED BLACK, AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE TREATED EQUAL, (NOT BETTER.....EQUAL) GET THAT STRAIGHT...


AND IF YOU SO MAD ABOUT THE WORD "NIGGA" I HOPE YOU DONT USE ANY WORDS LIKE FAG, , CRACKER, WHITE-BOY, BITCH, HOE, OR ANYOTHER WORDS LIKE THAT.

NIGGA HAS A DIFFERENT MEANING THAN YOU MAKIN IT OUT TO, AND IF YOU CANT FIGURE THAT OUT, YOU NEED TO STOP LISTENIN TO RAP.

OUTRO
 
Sep 29, 2002
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y'all gonna sit here & argue who suffered the most?
this isn't a contest in misery. if such were the case,
you could argue for the chinese suffering the most.
at 1 point the chinese were the only race not allowed
to immigrate here; they weren't allowed to marry;
they worked the kind of labor that the black &
irish americans no longer did; they were confined
to the worst parts of the american city & traded
in all the vices we associate w/ the ghetto. right
around the turn of the century more chinese died
in the gang wars (called the "hatchet wars" by the
newspapers) than all other ethnicities combined.
newspapers held chinese body count columns.

or you could argue for the american indians. shit,
you could still argue for them today. some real
serious u.s. government fist-fucking went on w/
the native population here. white folks used to
shoot the buffallo from the trains crossing the
american plains, just to deny the native americans
food.

or you could argue for.... get the point? what is
different about the black american experience
than any others is the shadow of hundred's of
years of slavery. there's some hardcore
psychological damage there that isn't so
easliy undone. just look at the chip on god's
son's shoulder.

@ god's son: we been here before. you've
established what your streets are like, i've
established what mine are like. everytime we
get into this i've shown i'm down to chop it up
on some real shit. you ain't stepped up to the
plate yet. your heart is in the right place but
i suggest your hate got you blind. such as it is.
politics, well, they a good thing to be aware of,
& to discuss, but you want to play that game
you got have more money & guns & strength
than the powers that be. otherwise die trying.
in other words: back up your arguments w/
more than just what someone say is "garbage"
or sac is full of "fake niggaz." never have i
seen you more heated about this issue than
on the siccmade board, & this shit has been
discussed all over the siccness forums.
 
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Re: @GODSON.........................................

SINNCERLYSINN said:
P.S. YOU EVER HEARD THE TERM BLACC IRISH???
WELL WE ONE IN THE SAME HOMIE!!!
IM BLACC WHITE INDIAN N IRISH I COULD BITCH ABOUT ALL 3 BUT THATS THA PAST AND I CANT SAY I KNOW WHAT SLAVERY WAS LIKE CUZ I WASN'T THERE AND THA "N" WORD NIGGER IS DIFFERENT FROM NIGGA .... WAAAAAAAY DIFFERENT ....SUM NIGGAZ JUS CAN'T GET OUT THA PAST:rolleyes: