Latinos VS. Blacks In Southern Cali Video
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one of my homies was telling me about his sister in arizona.he was telling me how she had gone to the dmv or some other place and some one asked her ''youre navajo right'' and she told them she was mexican....point is,here we are in 2007 and they cant tell a native american from a mexican but these two characters are gonna try and convince us that we're african:dead:
that's why I typed my last comment to see if someone would write this. You know that blacks lived closer with the natives and at one time outnumbered the Spanish by the thousands? So if the same scenario happened in other parts of Latin America colonialized by the Spanish, namely the Caribbean (which I see many Mexicans saying yeah the islanders have more black blood in them, even though blacks outnumbered the Spanish like they did in Mexico) and blacks and natives intermarried, why would it not happen in Mexico?
blacks outnumbered the Spanish 3 to 1 in the 16th century Mexico, 2.5 to 1 in the 17th century, and finally by the 19th century did the Spanish outnumber blacks in Mexico.
My problem with the whole thing is not that Mestizo Mexicans want to shun any black they might have in them, but that it seems like a good amount love to say there is more white, or have no problem with talkin about that great abuela o abuelo that was from Seville Spain, but when it comes to black, "oh no! no way!" What's wrong with black people? I know Mexico had a Spanish institued caste system where blacks and indios were at the bottom but come on, it's 2007 and we live in America. LA RAZA COSMICA means something.
blacks outnumbered the Spanish 3 to 1 in the 16th century Mexico, 2.5 to 1 in the 17th century, and finally by the 19th century did the Spanish outnumber blacks in Mexico.
My problem with the whole thing is not that Mestizo Mexicans want to shun any black they might have in them, but that it seems like a good amount love to say there is more white, or have no problem with talkin about that great abuela o abuelo that was from Seville Spain, but when it comes to black, "oh no! no way!" What's wrong with black people? I know Mexico had a Spanish institued caste system where blacks and indios were at the bottom but come on, it's 2007 and we live in America. LA RAZA COSMICA means something.
so why is it that caribbean people look black and mexicans dont if the same thing happened in both areas?why is it that people can clearly distinguish a mexican from a puertorican or dominican?
what was the ratio of blacks to native mexicans?
what mexicans are u talking about?most mexicanos relate with their aztec,native roots even if they dont really have any.to this day i've never seen a mexican with a tattoo of a spanish conquistador on his arm.
Oh, white people know where they are from. When it comes down to it whites don't worry about nations and tribes, they worry about western society vs. the rest of the world, the people's of Europe livin good over the other peoples of the world. Colonized minorities are the ones that don't know where they are from or their history. Blacks not knowin which peoples or where they come from in Africa, seperating along ethnic lines and other counteractive foolishness. Same can be said of the Ameridians here. White people know what's crackin for damn sure.
In the Caribbean, obviously there is a lot of black blood mixed in. You can SEE it. In Mexico, although many people have black blood, you can't see it as much other than in places like Guerrero, Chiapas, Chilangolandia, etc. In most places in Mexico, you're not as likely to see a black person walking around like you would in a country in the Caribbean. If I saw as many blacks in Mexico as there are in the Caribbeans, I would believe the "statistics" EDJ came up with more easily. However, Mexico is not that way.
cuz many of them are still the same blacks from Africa and are actually mulattos more than they are a mixture of black, taino/carib and Spanish (the Spanish killed most of the Tainos and other Arawak tribes out). The Native pop. in Mexico dwarfed the black pop., but the black pop. dwarfed the white pop. for centuries, so how is it that more Mexicans have more white blood than black blood? I don't believe all Mexicans have black blood, I'm not debating that issue. There are still alot of indigenous people in Mexico.
Edited because some of this wasn't clear.
Edited because some of this wasn't clear.
What does that have to do with the comments you quoted? I recognize the white blood in me, but because of family beef (the white half disowning us and killing some of us) I don't celebrate it. But since we are back on that point...I believe Mexicans should celebrate their indigenous roots, but if you are going to RECOGNIZE the Spanish root why not RECOGNIZE the black root, you feel me?
no it shouldn't. What about blacks that pass for whites? What about Berbers, Copts, and many other people that have intermixed with another people, where they look like something else but they still have a good portion of different groups' genes in them. Phenotypes can't tell you everything genes can.
I'm not really sold on the 80% thing, but I gotta check again if it is only talking about Mestizos and not the whole Mexican population. If it is only Mestizos I could agree with it. But there is still a large contingent of indigenous peeps in Mexico, who are pure blooded. And if all Mestizos have white blood even though blacks outnumebered whites by 3 and then 2 and a half for 2 centuries in Mexico, either whites started to fuck alot during the 19th century, or they strictly enforced same race sex, which I dont believe being that Mexico had one of the most complex caste systems, that worked for the most inane racial mixtures. I'll post the caste system if I can find it.