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J-Locc, I feel everything you said dawg, and that's why, like I said, I fuck with my own production team. I mean, of course if I'ma be featured on some shit, or where we gotta do a track for an album like the one we supposed to lay down for FILLMOE TO SAN JO, I'm not gonna be like, "I wanna be there when the beat is made". But when it comes down to my own projects, that's how I want it done, and that's how my team wants it done as well.

I learned with Larry K, A LOT...I learned mixing techniques and all kinds of shit, just by watching. BUT, I also learned that when you're on somebody else's time, it's gonna take twice as long, because they can fuck around and give excuses as to why they cancelled your session. So, we went out, got our own shit...Right now we got these 3 producers...Peter Parker (Produced West Coast Love on my album), Uncle Jon and Killah Mo (Who make up the other 2/3 of P.O.F). These 3 cats have a tremendous amount of talent, and they know what beats will cater to my style, and to the group style. Now, nobody gets paid for the beats, but we all put in on the equipment...and we all get cut from sales and what not, and we all chip in for mastering, it's all fair game now right? Not to mention, there's been over 100 beats made within the past 2 months, and the number keeps rising!! We go into the studio, they start making a beat and I start writing to it...that's my whole point...I can't fuck with these other fuck offs with no heart.
 
Apr 27, 2003
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@K9 YOU EVER GET THAT?

AS A PRODUCER:

HELL YEAH I'M STASHEN MY DIAMONDS AWAY. MAFUCKAS THINK I'M A BREAK OFF SOME OF MY TIGHTEST SHIT IN WHICH I SPENT HOURS WORKIN ON FOR SOME MAFUCKIN CHUMP CHANGE?? FUCK THAT.

"IF YOU WANT DIAMONDS YOU GOTTA BREAK BREAD"
- VDUBBLE : QUOTE ME ON THAT!

I GOT SHIT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE RADIO RIGHT NOW THAT I AINT SHOWIN NOBODY UNLESS EITHER: A) THEY ARE KNOWN (E-40, SAN QUINN [CHUCK WHERE YOU AT?], ETC. & I KNOW WILL DO SOMETHING WITH IT TO THE EXTENT OF MY EXPECTATIONS. -OR- B) THEY GOT BREAD.

MY MAYNE THING AS A PRODUCER IS LIKE THIS: I JUST WANT YOU TO DO MY MUSIC RIGHT. IF I GIVE YOU SOMETHING DOPE, PLEASE DROP DOPE ON IT! I'M TIRED OF GIVING DOPE SHIT OUT, & MAFUCKAS COME LAME. THATS WHAT MAKES ME NOT WANNA SELL MY SICK SHIT.

AS A RAPPER MYSELF:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A MAFUCKA GONNA SPEND $4000 ON SO & SO (WHO COMES WEAK ANYWAY) & WON'T SPEND MORE THAN $200 ON AN ILL ASS BEAT!!!!!!!!!! THAT DON'T MAKE 'CENTS' TO ME. YOU CAN'T FIX A SORRY BEAT! YOU AINT 2PAC! THE BEAT IS 80% OF YOUR MUSIC!!!!!!! WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ALBUM BE WITHOUT THE BEATS?????? NOTHING!!!!!!! AINT NOBODY WANNA HEAR SOME ACAPELLA SHIT! I DON'T GIVE A FUCK HOW MUCH BREAD A BEAT IS (AS LONG AS IT AINT PUTTIN ME ON THE STREET!!!) IF IT SOMETHING SUPER SAUCY, I WILL BREAK BREAD.

I WON'T SETTLE FOR NO WACK ASS BEATS IF I AINT GOT BREAD FOR TIGHT SHIT THAN I WONT PUT OUT AN ALBUM! PERIOD!

VDUBBLE AKA GRYME
 

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#24
I like money...

But I'll GLADLY take the business from those egotistical bitches tryin to charge loot for their beats when I've done WAY more work than they have...My BEST beats take me 20 minutes...It's the ones that take days that end up suckin...So hell, I have NO PROBLEM with workin wit cats on a budget!

BUT DON'T EXPECT FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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DJ Mark 7 said:
I like money...

But I'll GLADLY take the business from those egotistical bitches tryin to charge loot for their beats when I've done WAY more work than they have...My BEST beats take me 20 minutes...It's the ones that take days that end up suckin...So hell, I have NO PROBLEM with workin wit cats on a budget!

BUT DON'T EXPECT FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'VE HEARD A FEW OF YOUR TRACKS, I'VE SEEN YOUR NAME HERE & THERE. I LIKE WHAT I HEARD....

BUT IT DON'T MATTER HOW MUCH WORK YOU PUT IN, IF SOMEONE GOT TIGHTER SLAPS THAN YOU.... SORRY MAYNE. SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. IF YOU OFFERING EQUAL OR MORE QUALITY @ LOWER PRICE, THAN YOU THE ONE ON TOP, BUT THEN AGAIN YOU MIGHT BE GETTING ROBBED AT THE SAME TIME.

I'M TRYING TO DO THIS THING PROFESSIONALLY, ON A REGULAR BASIS. I WANT MY SHIT ON BET, MTV! SO MONEY IS STILL VERY VITAL TO ME & MY PROGRESSION.

I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT WORKIN WITH CATS, I'M DOING THAT WITH A FEW RIGHT NOW. I'LL GIVE YOU HEATERS, JUST DON'T EXPECT TO GET IN MY VAULT WITH A LOW BUDGET.
 

DJ Mark 7

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If I were an artist though I wouldn't break major bread on a cat who I had never heard of...This IS a game of names in many respects...Hell, Dr. Dre could make a beat of farts and whistles and sell it for 6 figures! Cause he has a NAME. I crack up tho when I see cats who have paid NO dues and think just cause mommy bought em a Triton that they ask for $500 or more for a beat...GOOD FUCKIN LUCK lololol...The way I was able to get on tracks with well known artists was because I came in with NO ego and worked for cheap to earn my way up...If you're coming into music just for MONEY then you're in the WRONG business cause you ain't gonna get any for some time until you earn it!
 
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BUT YOU AINT AN ARTIST!

IF NOBODY EVER TOOK A CHANCE WITH AN UNKNOWN DRE HE WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE UNKNOWN. AND LOOK WHO YOUR TALKING ABOUT! DRE! HE CAN SELL WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE HE MAKES HOT SHIT. IF HE DIDN'T MAKE HOT SHIT, BUT BEEN IN THE GAME FOR A LONG TIME, HE WOULDN'T BE GETTING 6 FIGURES FOR NOTHING. HE GOT A NAME NOT BECAUSE HE WORKED WITH SO & SO & PUT IN WORK, BUT BECAUSE HE PUT OUT HOT SHIT WITH SO & SO.

YEAH, I FEEL YOU ON MAMMAS BUYING FOOLS TRITONS & PAYING DUES. I'M STILL YOUNG IN THIS GAME & DO THE SAME SHIT YOU SAY YOU DID. BUT SHIT, IF A MAFUCKA OUT THERE TRYING, NETWORKING & HE'S GOT WAAAAY TIGHTER SHIT THAN YOU, WHY YOU GONNA BE MAD? BECAUSE YOU BEEN HERE LONGER & HE'S GOTTA SUCK THIS MAFUCKA DICK & THAT MAFUCKA DICK TO GET TO THE TOP? LOL. MAYNE IF A MAFUCKA GOT DOPE SHIT, HE GOT DOPE SHIT & CAN CHARGE WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS. THE MAIN FACTOR IS IF SOMEONE WILL BITE. IF HE CHARGING TOO MUCH, NOBODY WILL BE COPPIN FROM HIM!

IF I CAME ACROSS A CAT(EX. DJWRECKSJUXK) SLANGIN SOME BEATS FOR $500 & HIS SHIT SOUNDED LIKE THE NEPTUNES, OR DRE, OR TIMBALAND. SHIT I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF HE NEVER PUT OUT A TRACK IN HIS LIFE! IM A COP SOME SHIT FROM HIM! RATHER THAN FUCKIN WITH SO & SO WHO BEEN IN THE GAME FOR THIS LONG BUT AINT GOT NOTHING TIGHTER THAN WHAT DJWRECKSJUXK HAS.

SORRY BRA. THATS JUST MY OPINION!
 
Apr 25, 2002
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i gotta agree with mark.... it aint easy to get ya name out there, its alot of ass kissing, alot of free shit you give away or do, such as beats, recording etc... and as your name grows and people know who you are you can vertually sell them shit for whatever you want to sell it for, cuz once you can say, oh i made a slap for celly cel's last album, spice 1's rbl's etc.... etc..... people automatically think you must make tite beats, and your who they need in order to have a good album...

where i went against the grain with jenro's solo album and my solo album that im workin on, i went with all hungry up and com9ing cats with virtually no name, or vary little name for beats... why??? cuz they hungry, they are willing to do there best work for very little, and are very greatful for the oppertunity im givin them.... so i got a gang of tite ass beats to choose from, didnt spend alot of money, and helped some people out at the same time... cuz me, i aint payin nbody hella loot for a beat if it aint tite and i dont care if your dre dj quik or blow job betty... but thats just me.... most cats will pay anything for a rick rock beat, a t.c. beat, a jt beat, a lynch beat, and it could be crap... and the fact is most time nobody knows who produced a album til they buy it.... so thats why i say artist just need to pick good beats they want fucc who the producer is....
 
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TACT OUT MUZIC said:
i aint payin nbody hella loot for a beat if it aint tite and i dont care if your dre dj quik or blow job betty... but thats just me.... most cats will pay anything for a rick rock beat, a t.c. beat, a jt beat, a lynch beat, and it could be crap... and the fact is most time nobody knows who produced a album til they buy it.... so thats why i say artist just need to pick good beats they want fucc who the producer is....
THATS EXACTLY MY POINT! TIGHT PRODUCT SHOULD SELL ITSELF, NOT SOMEBODY'S NAME.

& LIKE I SAID ABOVE, I AGREE WITH MARK ABOUT PAYING DUES, SHIT TACT YOU KNOW I AINT OUT HERE CHARGING AN ARM & LEG & THAT I AM WORKING WITH MAFUCKAS!
 

DJ Mark 7

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GRYME I agree with u on many points...But this being a business, you have to sell yourSELF just as much as your PRODUCT.

pe@ce,
Mark

p.s. I aint mad at young cats who wanna charge loot...I'm just sayin they're gonna be some broke mufuckas lol
 
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TACT OUT MUZIC said:
ALL IM SAYIN IS YOU CANT SINGLE ANYONE OUT HERE, IT AINT THE PRODUCERS, IT AINT THE RAPPERS, IT AINT THE DISTRIBUTORS, IT AINT THE RADIO, IT EVERYTHING COBINED IN 1 FUCCED UP PILE OF SHIT..... WE GOTTA SPREAD THE SHIT OUT, AND START ALL OVER, MAFUCCAZ IS RUNNIN ROUND LIKE CHICKENS WITH THEY HEADS CUT OFF RIGHT NOW, ITS JUST A FUCCED UP TIME FOR "EVERYONE" AND WE JUST GOTTA KEEP FIGHTIN.... JUST POINT A FINGER AT YOURSELF 1ST IF YOU GONNA POINT IT AT SOMEONE ELSE...
now thatz real talk. we all need to step it up at this point.