Kreayshawn Stretch & Rick Ross Back Stage VMA's

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This turned into a typical siccness thread first start off hating on the more known/mainstream artist, followed by questioning they past from more then ten years ago, then insults other siccness members if the say something positive about the artist u pretend on here not to like.


this shit never fails. never can have a a civil or positive thread unless its a r.i.p one and some them get ruined with jokes about the dead.
 
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This turned into a typical siccness thread first start off hating on the more known/mainstream artist, followed by questioning they past from more then ten years ago, then insults other siccness members if the say something positive about the artist u pretend on here not to like.


this shit never fails. never can have a a civil or positive thread unless its a r.i.p one and some them get ruined with jokes about the dead.

Couldn't find a contradiction could you you 3rd grade ass mothafucka. That's because there wasn't one. If you're too dumb to understand what I actually said in the post then you need to speak your mind less and shut the fuck up more.
 

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I still don't know what the fuck is going on in this thread..

now if you will excuse me I have some car windscreens to smash
 
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The difference is that people who've actually been through the lifestyle Ross describes almost always don't rap about it for the sake of glorifying it... the message you get from their music is far more conflicted than anything in a Rick Ross album. They were also in it for the money, but the way you get that money usually has a cost... Rick Ross doesn't know much of anything about that cost, which is why it's not reflected in his lyrics. And the lyrics from people who've been through it tend to be introspective more than anything... there's usually a theme in the lyrics (pain, remorse, inner conflict, etc.) which people can relate to because that's what us as humans feel... show me a real person who is as one dimensional and vapid as the lyrics in the average Rick Ross song. It's entertainment, true, but that's all it is... there's no "value" to it. Now, you could argue that there's no value to the lyrics of, say, a Jacka album, but that would be more about the "value" of the content and less about the value of the self-portrait that the music portrays.
i understand your view point player. but i dont support no one for their self portrait. i support them for their music. im not sayin no ones "real" who raps. and even with being "real", how much of your song is true? you think Boots Riley had a pimp dad named Jesus who killed his hooker mom? Boots is real tho, feel me? if i were to buy Boots/The Coups music because of the value of the self portrait it paints, i wouldnt buy it. i disagree with probably 80% of The Coups message. with that logic i shouldnt buy it. but Boots is a musical genious and i support the musical side of him. thats the part that means the most when one's discussing music player. in theory of course.
 
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i understand your view point player. but i dont support no one for their self portrait. i support them for their music. im not sayin no ones "real" who raps. and even with being "real", how much of your song is true? you think Boots Riley had a pimp dad named Jesus who killed his hooker mom? Boots is real tho, feel me? if i were to buy Boots/The Coups music because of the value of the self portrait it paints, i wouldnt buy it. i disagree with probably 80% of The Coups message. with that logic i shouldnt buy it. but Boots is a musical genious and i support the musical side of him. thats the part that means the most when one's discussing music player. in theory of course.
That's not what I'm saying though. Boots IS giving a real self portrait of him as an artist... you can tell that from the bigger point of what he's saying. The portrait Ross gives doesn't have artistic depth; it stops at the surface level (I'm rich). That aint relatable to me... real artists are able to paint pictures of themselves with any medium (words, paint, etc.) no matter what the subject is. Boots can rap about a pimp dad named jesus but that aint the point of the song... it's about the inner dilemna Boots had (in the world of the song). Ross is all flash no substance... on a music level I can't feel that.
 
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My nigga Stretch ain't never got punked ! It's business wit him but don't get his CRIP'N fucc'd real C-Side nigga got respect from everybody do ya homework! Most your favorite artist come to the homie cuzz he the go to MAN without a doubt! N that's from a Salinas #RESPECT
Looked to me like Stretch got punked by the white boy.

"Step down. NOW. Im not asking you, im TELLING you."