Juan Williams: Fired for saying this?

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So do you feel it is ok for NPR reporters or analysts to espouse political views and take partisan public political action? NPR isn’t letting them go to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC for that reason. Do you believe doing so would tarnish their journalistic integrity or at least taint listener perception of the news they are listening to as partisan or politically skewed?

So in other words how is saying some stupid bigoted shit not supposed to tarnish listener perception of you? And after that damage has been done, why should your employer keep you around?


On the point of many people thinking like him:

What he said may be true of him and he is allowed to have those thoughts and concerns, but what distinguishes him is that he did not say “hey, I have these thoughts and worries . . . but I know they are wrong to have or that it is silly”. He stated it in a way that he attempted to legitimize his bigotry and create a rational for that response. So fuck him for that. I can’t respect that shit.
 
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So do you feel it is ok for NPR reporters or analysts to espouse political views and take partisan public political action? NPR isn’t letting them go to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC for that reason. Do you believe doing so would tarnish their journalistic integrity or at least taint listener perception of the news they are listening to as partisan or politically skewed?

So in other words how is saying some stupid bigoted shit not supposed to tarnish listener perception of you? And after that damage has been done, why should your employer keep you around?


On the point of many people thinking like him:

What he said may be true of him and he is allowed to have those thoughts and concerns, but what distinguishes him is that he did not say “hey, I have these thoughts and worries . . . but I know they are wrong to have or that it is silly”. He stated it in a way that he attempted to legitimize his bigotry and create a rational for that response. So fuck him for that. I can’t respect that shit.
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Fuck that Tio Tomas ass house negro Juanito.
 
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So do you feel it is ok for NPR reporters or analysts to espouse political views and take partisan public political action? NPR isn’t letting them go to the Stewart/Colbert rally in DC for that reason. Do you believe doing so would tarnish their journalistic integrity or at least taint listener perception of the news they are listening to as partisan or politically skewed?

So in other words how is saying some stupid bigoted shit not supposed to tarnish listener perception of you? And after that damage has been done, why should your employer keep you around?


On the point of many people thinking like him:

What he said may be true of him and he is allowed to have those thoughts and concerns, but what distinguishes him is that he did not say “hey, I have these thoughts and worries . . . but I know they are wrong to have or that it is silly”. He stated it in a way that he attempted to legitimize his bigotry and create a rational for that response. So fuck him for that. I can’t respect that shit.
i completely hear you and think your point is totally valid...but i agree with vamps:
You can see where his head's at when he said that they're identifying themselves as "first and foremost Muslims"..

Instead of firing him though, I'd rather NPR delve into why he's blindly associating Muslims with being in danger. I agree that it's a common belief right now and prejudice isn't going to change by firing people..
"So do you feel it is ok for NPR reporters or analysts to espouse political views and take partisan public political action?"

i wouldnt mind a segment which allowed space for that, as long as it were balanced with various views. npr listeners are smart and would be able to detect bias political coverage if it were consistently heavy on one side. npr could keep doing its thing as normal all day (presenting global, cultural, business, music etc. unbias news), but just 1 segment of different political views wouldnt tarnish their rep

i think it would have been much healthier to give juan air time on npr to explain his view, and then had others explain why having such thoughts is absurd and make him sound like a fool. and any npr listeners who maybe happened to deep down inside tense up a bit when seeing arabs on a plane, would maybe be able to hear and understand why feeling that why is stupid. just firing him like that sweeps the issue of american ignorance toward islam under the rug.

after having a public discourse on the issue then npr could fire him haha
 
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Exactly..

If the goal is to educate people and minimize prejudice these issues have to be explored. Sweeping things aside because they're offensive just leads to more animosity and ignorance..
 

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is it really bigotry? or is it a natural response? survival instincts? in this day and age, anyone that looks anything close to a 'sand nigger' is looked at twice in an airport, that's the reality of the situation.

if you're at an atm at night, and a bunch of (*insert group here*) dudes come up behind you, it's natural to be wary of one's safety.
 

Ne Obliviscaris

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Exactly..

If the goal is to educate people and minimize prejudice these issues have to be explored. Sweeping things aside because they're offensive just leads to more animosity and ignorance..
Issues should be explored, through objective reporting. I don't give a fuck what Juan Williams BELIEVES, but when he starts publicly stating his biases, hes lost the ability to be a passive observer and joined the dialogue as a participant. NPR employees arent allowed to go the the Stewart/Colbert rally, or go as participants to public political events of any kind. Its not about his feeling its about the innappropriet forum he chose to express them in.
 
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He shouldn't have been fired...he didn't make the statement while he was at work. If I go call somebody a faggot at a bar, does my job have the right to fire me? Fuck no, because I'm not acting on their behalf...and anything I do off the clock is none of their fuckin' business.

I don't feel like him, but he can state his views just like everybody else in this country without persecution.
 

Defy

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[sam jackson] yes he deserved to die and I hope he burns in hell! [/sam jackson]

ok, maybe not die, but get fired.


actually I think it was right that he was fired and npr should say exactly why he was fired and why what he said was wrong. there's no place for his prejudicial views, it is no different than saying blacks are criminals, latinos are immigrants or germans are nazis. I don't care if someone is in their traditional religious outfits when I fly, I'm usually in sweats and a hoodie being comfortable.
Says the dude with "Welcome to Niguardian International. The Cracker zone is for loading and unloading" in his sig.

I know you didn't say it, but you have it in your sig like you condone that type of shit.
hey I resemble that remark. I think there's a certain place for humor that's inappropriate but still funny. Death shouldn't be a funny subject but we all laugh when Kenny from South Park is killed. I think though, if you're in a news environment you shouldn't press your views onto the people, it should be unbiased unless given the expressed notion that it is comical views based on actual evens such as the daily show or the colbert report or fox news network.


lmao @ him getting a job at fox news tho, that speaks volumes about the network