is seattle a joke?
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Tukwila, Washington has a Relocation Crime Lab Index of 225 which is a higher crime rate than the national average
NYC (Brooklyn), New York has a Relocation Crime Lab Index of 227 which is a higher crime rate than the national average
The highway has cleaned up hella since the early 90's........im actually surpised shit is still so high..
There is lots of little hoods outside the actual city of seattle...i grew up around tukwila seatac desmoines white center burien bolevard park and
alot more shit does go down in these outline areas then in the city of seattle...tukwila has the most cops per person than any city in america
and if you know the city shit really only goes down on the highway thats
about ten blocks long with cameras right on the block so somebody must not be joking!!
NYC (Brooklyn), New York has a Relocation Crime Lab Index of 227 which is a higher crime rate than the national average
The highway has cleaned up hella since the early 90's........im actually surpised shit is still so high..
There is lots of little hoods outside the actual city of seattle...i grew up around tukwila seatac desmoines white center burien bolevard park and
alot more shit does go down in these outline areas then in the city of seattle...tukwila has the most cops per person than any city in america
and if you know the city shit really only goes down on the highway thats
about ten blocks long with cameras right on the block so somebody must not be joking!!
i dont see why people gotta bust out statistics and shit to compesenate and feel hard again..lmao..i live in a nice section where u dont gotta worry bout gettin shot or robbed..but best believe right here in this small neighborhood i got a house i can go grab an assortment of heat..i can break down a brick..i can do whatever whenever ya feel..its street everywhere..and lames find out the hard way day after day
Thank you finally someone using my links and taking a more objective approach. I know lots of you think the stats are for the nerds but it is a fact that bad things happen everywhere but of course there is a tremendous range in the amount. Stats are just stats but they do give you an idea. Per Capita makes a huge difference too (like for New York and LA, on average they are very safe cities, safer than Seattle).
And I also agree with that guy who said it's important to remember that this is BAD not good. I was lucky enough to grow up in a safe area where I could go running late at night, not worry about my brothers etc. and I'm thankful for it everyday.
And I also agree with that guy who said it's important to remember that this is BAD not good. I was lucky enough to grow up in a safe area where I could go running late at night, not worry about my brothers etc. and I'm thankful for it everyday.
Im sorry but when did the murder rate affect how "gangster" an area is, and why are you trying to glorify it like without a high murder rate this and that ain't right? wtf is that about, there is hella drug activity, prostitution rings, EVERYWHERE, you can find a crack-head in almost every city, town, whatever, to me thats corrupt, who said Seattle was a "gangster city", your not gangster, stop it.
I don't see what's wrong with using murder rate to compare cities levels of "gangsterness," seems like an effective indicator to me. Of course there are drug addicts and prostitution in every city but what is worse, a bunch of druggies and hookers running around or a bunch of druggies and hookers running around W/over 100 homicides a year??
As for nobody saying Seattle is a gangster city, I think what he's saying is that the rappers have said Seattle is a gangster city.
But you're right of course that this is a BAD THING that nobody esp. people who haven't had to deal with the real-life implications of being in a "gangster area"
As for nobody saying Seattle is a gangster city, I think what he's saying is that the rappers have said Seattle is a gangster city.
But you're right of course that this is a BAD THING that nobody esp. people who haven't had to deal with the real-life implications of being in a "gangster area"
Well yeah that is true no doubt. I just think that if there are over 100 homicides a year, its more of something seriously gone WRONG in that city when there are countries with rates below 10. But im sure we all have major differences because when I think of gangster I think of the dapper gone teflon don John Gotti, New York, you know, not some oppressed poverty-stricken black male or hispanic, or where Im at, vietnamese. Poverty is another big ass issue, poverty is pushing the same drama we see everyday, people are on the streets selling themselves, pushing hiv/aids, syringes on the side walk, so clearly activity is going on, you go anywhere where people are poor, and you will get the same thing. Seattle has all of that, so some rappers are mentioning it in their lyrics, what they see everyday, almost every city on the left coast has all of that. What went wrong was when people started dieing because of colors, that shit is ridiculous.
Yeah that is a good point about differing people's ideas of exactly what a gangster is.
But I think what this post (which I didn't make, I'm just trying to help that guy articulate it) is trying to get at through a more objective, comparison approach is that if you look at the numbers for poverty as well, Seattle area along with most other West Coast cities is way way lower than the cities that produce rap music.
Everybody is on the guy who started this thread, but honestly I can relate to him because out here in the Midwest, when I tell people about Seattle rap music and how amazing it is etc. I get kind of a smirk and a "yeah right" sort of response, and I think those sentiments are shaped by the image (and simple fact) that Seattle has much much fewer poor people (esp. Afro-Americans) per capita than the cities in the East, Midwest and South. The image of Seattle being a place of a bunch of white coffee drinkers, though of course somewhat shortsighted, is the pervasive image people in the rest of the country have.
Now how does this affect rap music? Theoretically it shouldn't, just because there are less people with the classic rapper's background doesn't mean they don't exist, so I have no problem with Seattle rappers talking about how gangster it is, if their reppin' my city and it's good then I LOVE IT, but I do think people's perceptions of Seattle (based on the stated facts that 206 Thuggin brought up), whether these people be from somewhere else or even Seattle tiself, certainly effect people's likelihood of getting into the local music. I'm saying they go into listening to the CDs with a closed mind because they don't perceive Seattle to be the way some of you are saying it is.
There could be hope though, I saw rap from Anchorage, Alaska on BET the other night. But even there, Joker might be benefitting from a more 'novelty' type of deal.
But I think what this post (which I didn't make, I'm just trying to help that guy articulate it) is trying to get at through a more objective, comparison approach is that if you look at the numbers for poverty as well, Seattle area along with most other West Coast cities is way way lower than the cities that produce rap music.
Everybody is on the guy who started this thread, but honestly I can relate to him because out here in the Midwest, when I tell people about Seattle rap music and how amazing it is etc. I get kind of a smirk and a "yeah right" sort of response, and I think those sentiments are shaped by the image (and simple fact) that Seattle has much much fewer poor people (esp. Afro-Americans) per capita than the cities in the East, Midwest and South. The image of Seattle being a place of a bunch of white coffee drinkers, though of course somewhat shortsighted, is the pervasive image people in the rest of the country have.
Now how does this affect rap music? Theoretically it shouldn't, just because there are less people with the classic rapper's background doesn't mean they don't exist, so I have no problem with Seattle rappers talking about how gangster it is, if their reppin' my city and it's good then I LOVE IT, but I do think people's perceptions of Seattle (based on the stated facts that 206 Thuggin brought up), whether these people be from somewhere else or even Seattle tiself, certainly effect people's likelihood of getting into the local music. I'm saying they go into listening to the CDs with a closed mind because they don't perceive Seattle to be the way some of you are saying it is.
There could be hope though, I saw rap from Anchorage, Alaska on BET the other night. But even there, Joker might be benefitting from a more 'novelty' type of deal.