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Dec 29, 2005
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what i wanna know is...how do illegal immigrants qualify for welfare? do you know any illegal immigrants on welfare?

someone please explain that to me.

thanks.

~k.
Thats another topic people think immigrants collect wellfare. they cant. They pay taxes and all that but cant get government asistance because they'll get caught. They're also paying for social security and all that other shit but will never see a dime of it. The taxes are being paid but they aint collecting any loot from it.
 
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I have to say, I'm in favor of controlled immigration (ie:terrorist). But over all, I say they do need to learn the culture (adolfoliverbush). I went to a wedding on saturday, nothing but paisas. I don't mind the way they dress, talk and all of that shit. But for them to only sit there and try to have a conversation in spanish when they know they are in the US of A...it's fucking annoying. Other than that, the country well knows we need the immigrant worker. It's messing up our economy. Immigration hit hard, house sales went down because house prices went up. Vegetables are rising in cost. Farmers are losing their crops, we are not only becoming dependant on foreign oil, but soon...vegetation itself.

Oh, and Cinco de Mayo will not have the same significance.
 
Dec 17, 2004
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in all honesty i would tell that bitch off, or slap her out of school hours... maybe the reason she lives pay chech to pay chech is her own fault.... i meet a teacher that at the age of 32 was 96 a year.... maybe if she got more education she would be getting more money.... theirs no fucken need to talk shit to kids
a teacher making 96k? and 32yrs old? i dont know, but thats unheard of where im from. believe me, im all for immigrants and though it makes me sad, what they decide to do when they get here, doesnt anger me or ruin my life and what im doing. and though i dont agree with her, i see where shes coming from. shes not living check by check because she doesnt work hard enough. shes well educated and busts her ass all day trying to teach history to uninterested kids (including all the time she spends grading shit for over 100 students). so when she sees somalian kids with brand new cell phones and ipods, and knows that neither of their parents work but get monthly govt checks, it just gets her pissed.
she also complains about how financial aid wouldnt really help pay for her two sons college (most or much of which she paid for) while they throw finaid at minorities. her anger isnt that the minorities dont deserve it, but just that she feels shes always worked full time and been at low points in her life when she was just as deserving for govt assistance but wouldnt get it (shes a widow by the way) because shes not some type of minority. with all this i could see why a person would be bitter

Don't try to act like you're still in Mexico or wherever you came from and only speak Spanish with no attempt to learn English. Don't play down the value of education and let your child be a distraction in class who fucks it up for those who want to get an education and make a better life for themselves. And don't teach your kids that standing out in front of Home Depot, cutting lawns, and cleaning houses for minimum wage is a great job because you are making way more than you did in Mexico or wherever you came from. Teach your kids to value education because the more education you have the more money you will make in the future.

I have been working education for the past five years, both teaching and substitute teaching, and I am happy to meet these kids who are working their asses off in the classroom and find out that they came from another country. I tell them they have excellent parents because they want you to make a better life for yourself and you will thank them in the future when you get that college degree. Then I look over at the many more kids who also came from another country who have no structure at home and no value of education who are going to keep the hardworkers back by distracting them in the classroom.
whats the demographic of the kids you work with? i ask cause from my experience, and this is all generally speaking, philipinos, newly immigrated vietnamese, and newly immigrated africans (mainly somalian and ethiopian) are all hard working good students. the newly immigrated vietnamese and africans blow me away with their politeness and effort to learn the language and do well in school. they stay after school for help and shit. now when it comes to the black and mexican americans, and newly immigrated mexican students...whole nother story. i dont blame them or hate them for this, because i think the problem is bigger than them, and theyre too immature and ignorant to realize it, but these kids are the most lazy and and apathetic students ive ever worked with. its like they feel entitled to the american dream or just have lost all hope of achieving it. its sad to see but just the way it is. just wondering if youve noticed anything similar or maybe opposite?
 
Apr 26, 2003
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#65
Most of that is bull shit, of couse there's some bad apples but not the majority.
HOW IS THAT BULLSHIT? JUST BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE IS DOING IT, THAT MAKES IT OK FOR THE FEW TO GET AWAY WITH IT? I NEVER SAID THE MAJORITY BROKE ANY LAWS OR ANYTHING, I WOULDNT BE THAT IGNORANT TO GENERALIZE AN ENTIRE RACE THAT WAY I'VE LIVED MY WHOLE LIFE AROUND MEXICANS I KNOW BETTER. HERES AN EXAMPLE I WAS DRIVING TO WORK A MONTH AGO AND A GROUP OF MEXICAN MEN IN A DAEWOO SMACKED INTO THE SIDE OF MY CAR, NONE OF THEM SPOKE ENGLISH, THE DRIVER HAD NO INSURANCE, AND NO DRIVERS LICENSE, SO I HAD TO CALL THE POLICE TO GET A CASE NUMBER FOR MY INSURANCE, AND HE GOT HIS CAR IMPOUNDED, I MISSED A DAY OR WORK I DIDNT GET PAYED FOR, I HAD TO TOW THE CAR, AND RENT A CAR FOR 2 WEEKS, AND I WAS INCONVENIENCED FOR DAMN NEAR A MONTH, WHEN I GOT A REPRINT OF THE POLICE REPORT THE GUY ONLY GOT HIS CAR IMPOUNDED, IT DIDNT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT DEPORTATION BUT THATS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, AND THATS JUST ANOTHER UNINSURED MOTORIST TO RAISE EVERYONE ELSES RATES, SO THERES THE CASE OF SOMEONE COSTING ME A FARE AMOUNT OF MONEY WHO TECHNICALLY SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD IN THE FIRST PLACE, THAT SHIT DEFFINATELY ISNT FAIR TO ME IS IT?
 
Apr 26, 2003
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Thats another topic people think immigrants collect wellfare. they cant. They pay taxes and all that but cant get government asistance because they'll get caught. They're also paying for social security and all that other shit but will never see a dime of it. The taxes are being paid but they aint collecting any loot from it.
THEY NEVER SEE A DIME FROM IT BECAUSE THEY ARENTS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE MAKING IT, IF THEY DONT WANT TO PLAY BY THE RULES THATS ON THEM TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER CONSEQUENCES MAY ARISE
 
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a teacher making 96k? and 32yrs old? i dont know, but thats unheard of where im from. believe me, im all for immigrants and though it makes me sad, what they decide to do when they get here, doesnt anger me or ruin my life and what im doing. and though i dont agree with her, i see where shes coming from. shes not living check by check because she doesnt work hard enough. shes well educated and busts her ass all day trying to teach history to uninterested kids (including all the time she spends grading shit for over 100 students). so when she sees somalian kids with brand new cell phones and ipods, and knows that neither of their parents work but get monthly govt checks, it just gets her pissed.
she also complains about how financial aid wouldnt really help pay for her two sons college (most or much of which she paid for) while they throw finaid at minorities. her anger isnt that the minorities dont deserve it, but just that she feels shes always worked full time and been at low points in her life when she was just as deserving for govt assistance but wouldnt get it (shes a widow by the way) because shes not some type of minority. with all this i could see why a person would be bitter
my bad, the teacher is 38, and monterey county pays well, he also had hella degress and shit, or the fuck just lied to us... i see her point, i thought she was just an old fashioned shit talking women
 
Aug 12, 2002
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#73
Here, let me spell it out for you:

I didn't see anyone actually answer Kayvee's post...

I don't know any illegals on welfare, either.

I love the double-standards though, and not just on this board.

The quotes I've heard/read on television, the internet, newspapers, etc...

"Illegal immigrants are responsible for..." number of homicides, and ''Illegal immigrants bring in...'' such and such drug, and "Illegal immigrants don't pay taxes, don't work, and are a strain on the economy..."

I guess it's ok for this to pertain to you if you're legal.

If you were born here, kill a child, snort cocaine off of a Hot Pocket, don't pay taxes because you're ''slangin' in the hood/barrio", and rob people on the street.

You've earned it!
 
Aug 12, 2002
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so is the anger towards people who don't live here legally? or is it just towards people who don't contribute to our economy efficiently because they don't work hard enough, have so many babies, and still receive certain benefits?

because if your main beef is with the latter, then there are plenty of white people in trailer parks and black americans in ghettos that fit that same description of mexican immigrants that everyone keeps mentioning. so if thats the problem, what should we do with them? send them to puerto rico (thatd actually be kinda nice)?
Well?
 
Nov 1, 2005
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all i'm gonna say is this....venezuela,cuba,china,russia,iran and any other socialist/anti-u.s. country would love for the u.s. to seal the border with mexico.
 
Apr 16, 2003
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Honestly, if you're illegal GTFOH seriously. I'm half Mexican too. I know plenty of people that immigrated here the correct way, why can't everyone else? It's the illegals that come here and birth their 5 kids into citizenship that fuck up everything. Before I had my son I wasn't making nearly what I made now, so we would have to go to a public health office. There would be ass loads of Oxacans with multiple bowl hair cutted offspring walking out with formula and WIC cards. Then you see fools driving off in 2005 dodge rams with spoilers, body kits and fake daytons oh and don't forget the rabbit ears. Yeah they want a better life for their families, like anyone else, but fuck that why should it come out of our pockets?
 
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As far as welfare mofos, I got a few neighbors that I've never witnessed leave to work. That shit pisses me off. Hella Kids, never go to work and sure enough ain't selling crack...WTF!?
 
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Before I had my son I wasn't making nearly what I made now, so we would have to go to a public health office. There would be ass loads of Oxacans with multiple bowl hair cutted offspring walking out with formula and WIC cards. Then you see fools driving off in 2005 dodge rams with spoilers, body kits and fake daytons oh and don't forget the rabbit ears.
so when a citizen hustles the system,he's gangsta.it's all about ''free my favorite rapper''..''free homie so n so"..but when a paisa does it,he's just wrong right?
 
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so when a citizen hustles the system,he's gangsta.it's all about ''free my favorite rapper''..''free homie so n so"..but when a paisa does it,he's just wrong right?

yeah so when you read my second post, you can clearly see that I totally condone citizens hustling the system....:cheeky:

in case you didn't...

As far as welfare mofos, I got a few neighbors that I've never witnessed leave to work. That shit pisses me off. Hella Kids, never go to work and sure enough ain't selling crack...WTF!?