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Apr 25, 2002
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I think the rapper I would completely erase is Jay Z. In terms of flow and cleverness Jay is definitely up there, but in terms of subject matter he ranks at the bottom of the barrel. In terms of all of rap music, I would pick Puff Daddy, but he is really a producer. Jay Z made his fame of songs where all he rapped about was ICE and Jewels and bitches, he even admitted in vibe to making a whole album of songs dictated by what the radio would feel. He definitely has the skills of an MC, but he took Pac's "How Do U Want It" image and ran with it full throttle. He helped bring the bling bling faze of rap to the front and as a result we have a bunch of MCs rapping about the diamonds in their grill instead of the state of the streets, the disproportionate number of minorities and impoverished citizens in the military, and several other civil rights and liberty issues that seem to remain un-talked about today. Rap has always been about partying since the NWA days and before, but it was never about aqquiring material goods to prove your worth until AFTER Pac died. When Pac died, Big stepped in, Mase and Jay Z came in, P Diddy was the top producer. Master P made his fame from Pac and then followed the crowd. So did CMR. That fucked up rap music PERIOD. Whatever happened to keeping in touch with the streets? The concept was lost when rappers lost touch with the streets. Of course Jay Z aint stricktly to blame, but Jay had the spotlight and ruined his chance to take rap in the direction of the people. Ever Since Can I Get a What What whiteboys in rich neighborhoods like Atherton can identify with rap music more than your average ghetto kid from the MOE.

As far as BIG, he was DEFINITELY a GOOD MC. But he will always be a 4 MIC MC in my book. Ready 2 Die was a classic, but lets face it, had Pac never have been killed, Biggie would never be considered on the same level. What I mean is, its like since the West lost the greatest rapper of all-time and the East lost a great rapper all the sudden the East considers it an equal loss. Nas, Redman, Method Man and other artists have much more talent then BIG, but since BIG died its like hes some kind of East Coast matryr or something. Not to cast a shadow on BIGS rap career but it makes me sick when people call him the GOAT. People wouldnt be saying that shit if BIG was here today, or if BIG was dead but there wasnt a Pac to compare.

Kinda controversal, prolly get a lotta shit for this, but MY 2 CENTS like it or not.

Signed,
One drunk mothafucka @ 2:18Am.
 
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lilwyte said:
........ ANd i got my 3 month subscription to the Source.
roflmao @that shit.........

hey cuz.... why dont you just move to the east coast and be a cheerleader on that sideline????

Ja Rule and Benzino both gay as fucc and cant come close to a real rapper like X-Raided.....fucc the bullshit.....

The only song i ever felt by Biggie was Juicy cuz it had that comin out the street feel and even the video looked a lil ghetto....but after that he got weak and i agree he only a martyr and if he was still alive no one would consider him greatest of all time....
 

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here we Go:

to the Guy who wondered how many albums BiGGie put out compared to rappers today, umm...how about the fact that he's DEAD...dont you think that would hinder his album releases?

P.Diddy - the Game wouldn't be the same if it wasn't for him, so check yourself and really take a look at what he did to the business

StaGGalee - I'll leave him just cuz he's one of the funnies thinGs I've ever seen

Jay-Z - talented emcee, except for the whole stupid battle with Nas that went absolutely nowhere, and his radio sinGles subject matter, I think he's a very talented emcee and anyone who drops somethin like 'Reasonable Doubt' can stick in my book

T-Po - see StaGGalee

and for my pick......


Petey Pablo, I mean I'm for a small timer puttin his town on the map, but for the love of God, where's the talent? Screamin, and soundinG like you're about to take a shit has already been done numerous times...and at least Mystikal had some tiGht music at one time

or

Benzino, just has no point to him beinG around in any place in music except to piss weople off..no skills and money will Get you anythinG you want

 

M-1

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THATS THE PROBLEM. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RAPPERS NOT PRODUCER. HES A GOOD PRODUCER BUT A HORRIBLE RAPPER.
how could you Get rid of him, but keep him?? It's one or the other
 
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Benzino new cd is good. It is slept on here i know. But check out "stayin 4eva" and callin ou namse" with jadakiss. Ok, Biggie is not GOAT lmao. yea Maddogg was right bout whe he said. Biggie was a good artist and lets leave it at that. you cay ll cool j is better than him. more albums and everything. i am white and i can relate to rap music. when they talk about weed drugs hustling haters and hoes hell yea i can. teh bling bling not really. but it gives me some motivation ot get that 22 inch spreewell etc. it is good party music and it is what it is. i cant relate to no bang bang gang shootings though . x raided is tight i agre czety loc. i have all his cds mostly. and i was in the east coast to whoever said i was to go back there. anyways it is too fucking cold man so i moved out here among other rasons.
 

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lilwyte said:
Benzino new cd is good. It is slept on here i know. But check out "stayin 4eva" and callin ou namse" with jadakiss. Ok, Biggie is not GOAT lmao. yea Maddogg was right bout whe he said. Biggie was a good artist and lets leave it at that. you cay ll cool j is better than him. more albums and everything. i am white and i can relate to rap music. when they talk about weed drugs hustling haters and hoes hell yea i can. teh bling bling not really. but it gives me some motivation ot get that 22 inch spreewell etc. it is good party music and it is what it is. i cant relate to no bang bang gang shootings though . x raided is tight i agre czety loc. i have all his cds mostly. and i was in the east coast to whoever said i was to go back there. anyways it is too fucking cold man so i moved out here among other rasons.
somebody please save this forever