I don't give a fuck, and i'll say it: The new movement out of the Bay is hella gay.
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Actually...Hip Hop is the art form...MC is the occupation..and MC's rap...
Just like a Culinary Arts is the art form..Chef is the occupation..and a chef cooks....
Im tired of people sayin Hip-Hop and Rap arent the same...they are exactly the same....theres different GENRES of HipHop...but its all Hip Hop....
Just like a Culinary Arts is the art form..Chef is the occupation..and a chef cooks....
Im tired of people sayin Hip-Hop and Rap arent the same...they are exactly the same....theres different GENRES of HipHop...but its all Hip Hop....
I got it from the first post you made in this fucking thread, on page 4. I'm quoting you:
"Most of you mufuckas doin all of this complainin is just mad because artists aren't makin the kind of music that you used to love to download off the internet ...
WillieTheWhiner: Man I loved it when I was able to download the style of music I like!
CoreyDaComplainer: Yeah .. I feel you mayn! Wish they went back to that Mobb Shit so I could enjoy it without paying for it."
Because you was sayin that the same people complaining probably didn't buy the albums and had no right to complain. I was telling you I did buy em. I never "thought I knew you on the internet" or implied you didn't like the 90's bay stuff or purchased it. Where you got THAT from?
Ain't tryin to.
It has to do with it, but that's not all. Can't forget that B-Legit's new album ain't got the kind of exposure Hemp Museum had. I can guarantee there's a bunch of people who owned and liked that album who have no idea B-Legit has a new album out. I know folks in the south and all around who fucked with Hemp Museum, Celly Cel's Killa Kali, 4-Tay's Don't Fight The Feelin', Spice-1's first three-four albums, etc., who wonder where these cats are nowadays. They think they just quit rappin 9 years ago or something. That's a large part of why the sales are so low. No REAL exposure. Of course downloads hurt it, and I don't know why muh'fuckas have the nerve to share that shit on here, but that's not the majority. Most of those threads about the new B-Legit were full of "buy it and support, don't download it like a bitch" comments.
The problem with the rest of your whole argument is this: even if they do get a few songs on the radio, they don't really sell. They shit sounds commercial, but it don't do commercial numbers, and there's a reason for that-there's already enough of that shit out there. The market is saturated with it. Why would the hyphy sound blow up across the nation? It's not bringin anything crunk music isn't already bringin. And if the bay isn't supporting the bay as you claim, then it don't matter that this new shit is popular with youngstas in the bay. We don't force artists to do that type of music to feed they family and whatever else-it ain't really selling, they ain't really feeding they kids better. That's my point. The bay came with a lot of garbage music in the late 90's and early 00's, as the rap game took a dive. But now there's a chance to reinvent the movement, and instead of just taking what's hot right now and adding a little bay flavor to it, I feel it'd be better to take what the bay created in the 90's, update it to the current times and strive to blow up with it. That's what I'm saying.
Everybody got a right to disagree, and I'm not hatin on those who like it or calling it gay like the topic starter. But that's where I stand on this right now.
"Most of you mufuckas doin all of this complainin is just mad because artists aren't makin the kind of music that you used to love to download off the internet ...
WillieTheWhiner: Man I loved it when I was able to download the style of music I like!
CoreyDaComplainer: Yeah .. I feel you mayn! Wish they went back to that Mobb Shit so I could enjoy it without paying for it."
Because you was sayin that the same people complaining probably didn't buy the albums and had no right to complain. I was telling you I did buy em. I never "thought I knew you on the internet" or implied you didn't like the 90's bay stuff or purchased it. Where you got THAT from?
Ain't tryin to.
It has to do with it, but that's not all. Can't forget that B-Legit's new album ain't got the kind of exposure Hemp Museum had. I can guarantee there's a bunch of people who owned and liked that album who have no idea B-Legit has a new album out. I know folks in the south and all around who fucked with Hemp Museum, Celly Cel's Killa Kali, 4-Tay's Don't Fight The Feelin', Spice-1's first three-four albums, etc., who wonder where these cats are nowadays. They think they just quit rappin 9 years ago or something. That's a large part of why the sales are so low. No REAL exposure. Of course downloads hurt it, and I don't know why muh'fuckas have the nerve to share that shit on here, but that's not the majority. Most of those threads about the new B-Legit were full of "buy it and support, don't download it like a bitch" comments.
The problem with the rest of your whole argument is this: even if they do get a few songs on the radio, they don't really sell. They shit sounds commercial, but it don't do commercial numbers, and there's a reason for that-there's already enough of that shit out there. The market is saturated with it. Why would the hyphy sound blow up across the nation? It's not bringin anything crunk music isn't already bringin. And if the bay isn't supporting the bay as you claim, then it don't matter that this new shit is popular with youngstas in the bay. We don't force artists to do that type of music to feed they family and whatever else-it ain't really selling, they ain't really feeding they kids better. That's my point. The bay came with a lot of garbage music in the late 90's and early 00's, as the rap game took a dive. But now there's a chance to reinvent the movement, and instead of just taking what's hot right now and adding a little bay flavor to it, I feel it'd be better to take what the bay created in the 90's, update it to the current times and strive to blow up with it. That's what I'm saying.
Everybody got a right to disagree, and I'm not hatin on those who like it or calling it gay like the topic starter. But that's where I stand on this right now.
the bay area doesn't buy enough records of our own bay artists....for 1..no CMC video station anymore....that was bigger than we think...all anyone needs to see is someone on TV and it's a rap...even if it's just in the bay. that would create sales...2. gotta a hit record on KMEL...album has to drop 1 1/2 - 2 months after those spins and hit um wit that 2nd single...if we ain't major we at least gotta play like the majors....another point is again to start letting new voices on the radio...it's becoming again a few cats who always get the play..not anything against those who are because they workin hard for it...but come on..ain't nothing better in life to than to hear a new artist that shuts everything down for a minute..a new flow..style...swag...new words...topics...etc...and everybody always talkin bout step your shit up! man I know cats and myself included who got slapin ass songs that for whatever reason can't get on..or a song spun on even the mixshows....im bout to give um 2 more of mines and see what happens....also clear channel & venues...they gotta be making some money off these bay artists.....they ain't gettin doe for spinnin bay shit...they don't got to if they don't wanna...so the artists gotta bring the people out to the shows and sale those tickets for clear channel to get that doe on that avenue...maybe im wrong but I believe not...And I can't stress this enough...the radio has the power to de-brainwash the listeners right away....any song can be a hit record...any song....somaybe for the next year of 06...try to minimize a bit on the type of bay records you play...or start tellin these artists to start backsliding away from this 04-05 formula.....it's good but it has aheavy enfluence on the youth for life reasons and sales...
it seems like 10 years ago around 93-97 the bay was on top.They were on BET and MTV.Then they fell off for about 10 years and now there trying to make a come back!!!With slang like hyphy or thizzin' and also using mac dres death to get the bay on top again.Using his death as a promotional techniqne.95% of the shit coming out of the bay is wack now-a-days!!!
if i was a hater then i would think that a lot of rappers are wack but the only place i think has a lot of wack rappers is the bay so theres no way im a hater..the bay is just wack so deal with it..does the truth hurt???And i dont listen to rappers on TV..dumbass..only real niggaz..ill listen to any rapper from any place in cali before i listen to any rapper from the bay area.Oakland is tight though but the rest of the bay aint shit..you sound like the LIL bitch getting mad for no reason..theres always going to be some idiot like you who trys to step up and try to talk shit on the web and who probably doesnt know shit about rap to begin with...
how the bay gon suck but oakland?
tha hommie up there listed some acts from tha bay that aint from oakland but r tight as fuck i got more for you like turf talk,e-40,mac dre,dubee,bailey,andre nickatina,lil ric,federation,frontline,laroo,hoodstars,sky balla and many more listen to these artists n it might change ur opinion on tha bay area rap
tha hommie up there listed some acts from tha bay that aint from oakland but r tight as fuck i got more for you like turf talk,e-40,mac dre,dubee,bailey,andre nickatina,lil ric,federation,frontline,laroo,hoodstars,sky balla and many more listen to these artists n it might change ur opinion on tha bay area rap
I think whether you like the hyphy shit or not at least its our own, but most cats from the bay have lil hyphy shit mixed with that gangsta shit. I do agree about the back packs (sponge Bob and Care bears) people will look back on that shit and say, thats just gay shit, as if the san francisco bay area dont get enough of that stereo type already. please stop giving them more of a reason to call us gay, cuz really a 20+ year old man wearing anything spongebob, care bears dora the explora is gay.
