man white people been goin dumb before oakland was goin dumb....... have you ever even seen any concert footage from a rock band.... say pantera or metallica?????/ doubt it .... they was shakin their hair (headbangin) from way back... throwin bows, actin stupid, lettin loose, gettin hyphy minus the word.... look at mosh pits man........ open up and don't stereotype mothafuckas either..... keep your ears, eyes, and mind open ............ GONE