how much do artists on here normally spend on beats?

[Artistic]

just curious what yall be dropping when you shop for beats.

i've mostly done mixtape material my whole career and haven't really ever bought beats

ive gotten some slaps given to me on love though

but im gonna start shopping for beats soon so what price do yalls beats cost

im not talking about Traxamillion beats or anything that expensive

but some clean beats from an up and coming producer or a semi-known producers?

im sort of in a circle of artists and producers so i could find this out by talking to folks

but i think this is a good thread topic

 

[Hott Sauce]

WANT BEATS FOR A GOODIE PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Artistic]

cousin this is not that type of thread^

im not looking to check out beats right now im trying to start a discussion about what price range people normally pay for beats

trust me i see everyones threads advertising their beats and stuff

no disrespect thoug

 

[Gotmanager]

50 - $100 a beat... *imo

 

[AKAZIE]

if you want quality beats that has radio potential at least tracked out in protools, you gonna spend 250-500,

for all them rappers that want your best material for 25 bucks. Your life sucks and you'll never make it. I Hope you die.

i would rather pay more money for better beats. IMO you shouldn't be half steppin anything when it comes to your albums.

 

[Artistic]

is 250-500 what you've paid in the past AKAZIE?

 

[AKAZIE]

thats classified. but when you here my new album. you'll know whats up.

shout out to Money Alwayz, a beast on the keyz.

 

[Sydal]

I used to get package deals. Beat + studio time + mixing for $300...that was a hook up though, 'cause other cats were breakin' $300 just for the beat. Then I had some cats tossin' beats at me that were asking for $150. It all depends on who made the beat and how dope it is, really. I wouldn't pay $500-$1000 for a beat that sounds like everybody else's shit. So, I got my own group of producers now.

 

[AKAZIE]

it depends on what they want. I charge more when i put live instruments in my beats such as guitar or bongos. I have to pay my musicians for there service so i usually add on there price to what i charge. A so called "throw away" beat i will let go for $100 but i very rarely have those lol. Anything else is negotiable, no lower then $200 unless there is a clear vision on what going to happen to the track....for example, Radio play, promotion, ect ect. I sell exclusive rights with all my beats and have a agreement on paper that i still get my publishing royalties if the song "BLOWS UP".

i feel you on that. cause when i was doing trackz at Studio 132. I'd bring my beats in and have the cat BZ play the guitars over it. Dude was ill on the guitar. Live instruments steps up your beats game majorly. Folks would always want those the most. But you gotta charge more for those cause liek you said, you got pay that cat to play for you.

 

[Artistic]

thats classified. but when you here my new album. you'll know whats up.

shout out to Money Alwayz, a beast on the keyz.

all good wasn't asking for a specific price im not trying to get all up in your biz

but a price range would be helpful

 

[Sydal]

it depends on what they want. I charge more when i put live instruments in my beats such as guitar or bongos. I have to pay my musicians for there service so i usually add on there price to what i charge. A so called "throw away" beat i will let go for $100 but i very rarely have those lol. Anything else is negotiable, no lower then $200 unless there is a clear vision on what going to happen to the track....for example, Radio play, promotion, ect ect. I sell exclusive rights with all my beats and have a agreement on paper that i still get my publishing royalties if the song "BLOWS UP".

We need more producers like you out here. A lot of cats think they can charge the same price for any beat they make, even if it's mediocre. Live instruments are also rare out here. We're using 'em now too, and definitely charge more for a track with those in 'em 'cause everybody has to get paid for their work (something a lot of artists don't understand).

 

[Sydal]

amen, package deals are the best and that's why i have a recording studio and not just a production studio. i charge a average of $300 for a dope slap and 4 hours of recording time and (Mix down,Master,Copies) are included for no additional cost as long as they knock the song out during that session.

Yea, cats have told me that we ask too much (we were willing to do an entire track plus mix for $150 for this one cat). So, I told him to go pay $50-$100 for a beat, plus $35-$75/hr to record, plus the same for a mixdown and an extra $5 for a CD copy, lol. We haven't heard from him since.

 

[Shamediddy]

For the United Blood Movement cd we got comin out all beats were donated on piru love...dj quik did threw us a beat($5000-$10000 reg)

Nu Jersey Devil also threw our project a beat in exchange for putting his new blood affiliated rapper on the album

 

[dizzlemacem]

You guys got some good info. I'm up and coming and are JUST NOW starting to demand payment because I feel my beats have reached that quality. Right now I'd charge $50-75 for exclusives. I'm still learning proper micing technuiqe of a guitar amp, so the live instruments aren't quite there yet, but soon that will play a part in the pricing. I'm loving this discussion though, I still got a lot to learn. Indo knows whats up with me though....

 

[AKAZIE]

all good wasn't asking for a specific price im not trying to get all up in your biz

but a price range would be helpful

well i trade services and get discounts cause i can be beneficial to alot of people and throw graphics at them. so i been gettin them from 100-150. But thats not to say i wouldn't pay 250 for a super banger. When you break bread, cats take interest in you and want to give you quality shit. When you try to low ball a cat. you fuck yourself over. this one cat RASPY over here in Sac got stupid beats. he got a solid price, $100. no more no less, give it to you tracked out and all. but from what i heard from him and his potential he could make alot more. I feel like he short change himself.

What i don't understand from damn near EVERY rapper i know. They want shit for free like i owe them something. They wanna buy beats but don't got $10. then they want 5 beats for like $50. homie i cut you off if you come at me like that. you can kick rocks.
Like they want me to design a 4-panel, full color, clear tray cd store ready layout. Spend hella hours on there shit, i'm tryna help you be famous. make someone actually wanna pick your weak ass up and look at you. then they wanna try to give me 80 bucks...LOL. makes me wanna punch their brain out there head. and the funny thing is, they wear Money shirts and there label is called GETTIN GREEN ALL FUCKIN DAY ENTERTAINMENT, but don't got a $1 in they pocket.

Those is the type of cats that i hate workin with. On top of that. They text and text and text and call and call and call like some fuck stalkers. Makes me wanna murder you for being a bitch..

OKAY IM DONE VENTING, HAD TO GET THAT OUT.

The conclusion to my post is, Break Bread and stop being a bitch.

 

[dizzlemacem]

you dont mic the guitar, get a lil presonus pre amp and plug it in there to worm it up....if your talking about acoustic guitar then you need the right type of mic for that, not just any will do.

I like recording the room ambience as well. I need a mic for that. It's mainly to thicken the recorded track. But you're right with a preamp. If both are mixed properly it creates a nice full, crunchy, thick sound.

 

[dizzlemacem]

all you need is to get $1000 and your in the game diz, you need a dope sound card, better comp, and a dope mic... programs you can get for free just about anywere now.

My compuer's up to date. It's about 6 months old now. I got an AKG Perception 100 mic. Nothing special, but it works for now. I'm looking into a soundcard as we speak(suggestions???). Once I have that, then I'm upgrading to a real nice expensive mic that'll last for years. Investing is a musicians best friend....Lack of investing is the downfall...

 

[dizzlemacem]

dead the room sound by at least turning a closet in to a booth, then use you plugins to get the ambiance you want. Quality wise it will be better for your recordings and mixing.

You wanna lace me with some info for these plugins?? I use the C4 and L2 with diamonds, and basically play with it til the beat gets the sound I want. But I'm sure you have more defenate info I could use...

 

[Sydal]

If you want the plugins to work correctly then you got to be sure all audio is recorded clean and eq right before you apply anything. Your "master" is only as good as your "mixdown". I cant give up to much game because you need to actually learn your self "Like i did" to really know what works and dont work, what sequence of plugins work best for what you do. Its like a process of elimination, comfort is the death of success homie so always try to do different with what you got and see what the out come is.

That's the best advice you can give right there. Once a cat says, "ok I'm good with that", the game is over. Dr. Dre isn't even comfortable with his shit. From what I understand, he can have a platinum track, but once it's released he hears it and says, "Shit, I could have done that better".

 

[dizzlemacem]

If you want the plugins to work correctly then you got to be sure all audio is recorded clean and eq right before you apply anything. Your "master" is only as good as your "mixdown". I cant give up to much game because you need to actually learn your self "Like i did" to really know what works and dont work, what sequence of plugins work best for what you do. Its like a process of elimination, comfort is the death of success homie so always try to do different with what you got and see what the out come is.

That's the motto I live by. And for the most part, everything I've done has been self taught. From learning guitar to music theory to composition and all that. It's pretty much come from studying, paying attention to what goes on around me with other musicians/producers and experimenting. I know plenty of younger producers that would 'hate' on your statement above because it isn't a direct hands-held answer, but there is game in there for those that can read between the lines. So I'll keep in mind what you said. Master's brings out what's there, and is not a cure to a bad recording....