Homeless man dies after being set on fire

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Nov 1, 2005
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i hope these fuckin youngsters get it in prison


by Richard Winton and Cara Mia DiMassa, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
1:28 PM PDT, October 10, 2008
Los Angeles police are investigating the death of a homeless man who apparently was doused with a flammable liquid and set on fire.

Police responded to a call about 9:40 p.m. Thursday and found the man on 3rd Street between Berendo Street and New Hampshire Avenue in the Mid-Wilshire area, said Officer Ana Aguirre, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles Police Department. Firefighters also responded.

The victim was later pronounced dead, authorities said.

"This is one of cruelest crimes you can imagine," said Deputy Chief Sergio Diaz, who oversees LAPD's Rampart Division. "Pouring gasoline on a human being and setting them on fire. As an officer who has responded to many murders over the years, this is amongst the most horrific."

Capt. Dennis Cremins of LAPD's Robbery Homicide Division said detectives have not identified the victim. He said police were looking for at least one suspect in his 20s seen running from the scene. But he said there may be other suspects.

Police are scouring the neighborhood today searching for witnesses and evidence that may assist them in the investigation.

One resident, who did not want to be identified out of fear for his safety, said he spoke to someone who allegedly witnessed the crime. He said the witness told him several teenagers apparently got out of a Honda Civic carrying a bucket of gasoline and approached the homeless man, doused him and set him on fire.

The youths then chased the man into a parking lot and threw another bucket of gasoline on him, he said. Several residents came to the victim's aid and tried to put out the flames, he said.

Police could not immediately confirm that account.

"I often worried for the guy because there are gangs in the neighborhood," the resident said. "I thought, one of these days to make a point or as part of an initiation they're going to harm this guy."

He said the man, who was known as "Grimley" to area residents, had lived in the neighborhood for about 20 years. He described him as a heavy set man, with a beard, in his 50s, who carried a radio around with him that he liked to listen to.

He said the man was dirty and never bothered anyone.

"I thought the smell alone would make this guy a target," he said. "But in the eight years I've been here no one did him any harm."

The incident appears to be the latest of several attacks on homeless people.

Last year, four teenage boys were arrested on suspicion of driving around Los Angeles and attacking homeless people while using a cellphone camera to capture some of the assaults. The youths allegedly attacked at least eight homeless people by throwing smoke bombs or firing plastic pellets from an air pistol at them and in one case throwing a bike into a homeless man's tent as he slept.

"As times continually get rougher, violence levels go up everywhere," said Orlando Ward, director of public affairs for the Midnight Mission, based in downtown's skid row. "The vulnerability is simply going to increase for people who live outside. It's brutal, an absolutely brutal situation."
 
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come to think about it.i have heard a few stories about homeless fools witnessing crimes(murders) and spilling the frijoles to the pigs and then getting wacked.so who knows.
 

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are yall sayin u never fucked up a homeless person as a kid

what, yall was good boys? raised better?

never fucked a person up close to death? its not right. but thats what makes a person understand the error of their ways and do better in the future.

it isnt right to lock people up who were blind...what if i was locked up all my life for something i didnt think of...i woulda never made it to the age i am, being a taxpayer and a outright good citizen and understanding to have love for the people around me...it takes a wrong to make things right sometimes. its sad if these kids die in jail. becuse sometimes peopel who deal with the most fucked up shit become the people who are frontrunners in the community.

a negative and a negative dosent make a positive to me..these kdis needed to be sent to a psychologist...istead of spending our taxpaying money on jailing them and continuing the negativity.

you dont have to agree with me but ive known alot of fucked up people mentally and ive been one of them at one point...so im just speaking from the grave of those troubled people who might not have the chance to speak.
 
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are yall sayin u never fucked up a homeless person as a kid

what, yall was good boys? raised better?

never fucked a person up close to death? its not right. but thats what makes a person understand the error of their ways and do better in the future.

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Wait...what? Youre kidding, right?

I NEVER did that...i knew better as a kid. Not saying everyone knows or should know...but i did.
 

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i did some fucked up shit as a kid. im not kidding at all. i didnt know better. i guess im fucking lucky i didnt end up in jail. but those things shaped me to what i am now. now that im an adult i completely understand the error of my ways and although sometimes i think about them and feel really bad, i know that its not me anymore.
 
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a negative and a negative dosent make a positive to me..these kdis needed to be sent to a psychologist...istead of spending our taxpaying money on jailing them and continuing the negativity.

you dont have to agree with me but ive known alot of fucked up people mentally and ive been one of them at one point...so im just speaking from the grave of those troubled people who might not have the chance to speak.
Although i WANT to agree with you here, some of these kids are just flat our bananas, but in a "i need to impress the hood and show everyone that i am king" way. They will do anything to get respect.

Now, i DO agree that they need psychological help...but in their self-security and confidence...because this is one of the reasons these kids act out. Maybe some of them are lacking a father figure. I mean, none of os KNOW what these kids are going through.
 

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i just personally do not feel like jail helps everyone. i canno imagine what i would have turned out if i was intergrated into the jail system early in life. and youre right, none of us know what those kids are going through. thats exactly why i suggested a psychologist or psychiatry, because those are the people qualified to decide whether a person is really about what they acted out on.

at the end of the day jailing them is the right thing to do for the crime. im not dismissing that. i just wish our system was a little more sympathetic to lost teens and young boys growing up within such crazy circumstances, single parenthood if the one parent is even around....so easy for these kids to get into trouble that they deem as fun..i only speak as someone who has done shit and wished i knew better at the time, or had a place to go to and have fun instead of making our own up.. sure fucking up the guy who sold roses on the corner wasnt right...either was throwing rocks and breaking peoples windows...but we were kids...we spent everyday shooting the people that went to their mailboxes with bb guns...i cant say that shit was right...i personally will live with whatever ive done in my life for the rest of my life and that is enough on my concious...i dont need to be locked down..