***GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS 2010-2011 SEASON THREAD***
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prolly wont happen for us, i dont think they want charlie bell and i'm not sure if our management is even interested in thompson. if we did get him tho we could move gadzuric without worry. hes a young big man with potential, he balled last year for a rookie but then they drafted cousins, traded for landry and have too many big men.
just seen they were trying to move him and he'd be dope to get.
especially without David Lee, a win without Lee is impressive road or home.
just seen they were trying to move him and he'd be dope to get.
especially without David Lee, a win without Lee is impressive road or home.
Marcus Thompson: Lacob said Keith Smart has a two-year deal with a team option on the 2nd year Twitter
Marcus Thompson: I'm hearing Robert Rowell will be sticking around. For how long and what role is uncertain, though. Twitter
Co-owner Peter Guber had the line of the Warriors ownership intro day, which sounded like it was spontaneous, not planned, and more credit to him for it “This is not the cure for cancer,” Guber said of he and Joe Lacob’s mission-plan. “Might be the cure for Cohan, but it’s not the cure for cancer.” San Jose Mercury-News
Marc J. Spears: Lacob cleans it up says he's pointing toward Oakland and he plays in San Francisco Bay Area. But he says "possible" down road to move to SF. Twitter
The Warriors considered trading Ellis last season before rejecting a deal that would have sent him to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard O.J. Mayo(notes) and center Hasheem Thabeet prior to the February trade deadline. Speculation persisted through much of the summer that the Warriors would move Ellis, but league sources now say team officials couldn’t be happier with his game – and leadership. It would a phenomenal offer for the Warriors to even consider dealing Ellis now, the sources said. “They were open to trading him last season,” one NBA executive said. “Now that they are playing well and winning, it would be a bad move. The word out of there is he has matured some. He’s changed the last couple of months.” Yahoo! Sports
What a difference a year makes. The Warriors now have a new coach, new ownership, a new All-Star power forward, even new uniforms. As a result, Ellis also has a new outlook on life in the Bay Area. “Whatever happened in the past I’m trying to move on from,” Ellis said. “Everybody in the world knows the frustration that was on my face – every player on that team and in the organization. It was a tough time, but now things have changed. “It’s all a new start.” Yahoo! Sports
The two finally began to grow closer toward the end of last season after Ellis’ wife, Juanika, and Curry’s fiancee, Ayesha Alexander, became good friends. Juanika had also made it a point to tell Ellis that he was wrong in his assertion that he and Curry couldn’t play together. Ellis then picked up the entire tab for Curry’s 22nd birthday party in March. Curry also attended Ellis’ and Juanika’s wedding over the summer in Mississippi. “I took it as a shock because that was my first exposure to him and the team,” Curry said of Ellis’ initial comments. “But then I realized he didn’t know me well, and I earned his trust with my play.” Yahoo! Sports
“I’m not going to sit here and try to bash and say anything bad about [Nelson],” Ellis said. “He was a great coach. If it weren’t for playing in his system, I wouldn’t be the player that I am and had the [improvements] I had. “There were some doubts in my mind that he had a leash on me because he didn’t let me do certain things that no one knew about. I’m just going to put all that behind me and do what I can for coach Smart.” Yahoo! Sports
Marcus Thompson: I'm hearing Robert Rowell will be sticking around. For how long and what role is uncertain, though. Twitter
Co-owner Peter Guber had the line of the Warriors ownership intro day, which sounded like it was spontaneous, not planned, and more credit to him for it “This is not the cure for cancer,” Guber said of he and Joe Lacob’s mission-plan. “Might be the cure for Cohan, but it’s not the cure for cancer.” San Jose Mercury-News
Marc J. Spears: Lacob cleans it up says he's pointing toward Oakland and he plays in San Francisco Bay Area. But he says "possible" down road to move to SF. Twitter
The Warriors considered trading Ellis last season before rejecting a deal that would have sent him to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard O.J. Mayo(notes) and center Hasheem Thabeet prior to the February trade deadline. Speculation persisted through much of the summer that the Warriors would move Ellis, but league sources now say team officials couldn’t be happier with his game – and leadership. It would a phenomenal offer for the Warriors to even consider dealing Ellis now, the sources said. “They were open to trading him last season,” one NBA executive said. “Now that they are playing well and winning, it would be a bad move. The word out of there is he has matured some. He’s changed the last couple of months.” Yahoo! Sports
What a difference a year makes. The Warriors now have a new coach, new ownership, a new All-Star power forward, even new uniforms. As a result, Ellis also has a new outlook on life in the Bay Area. “Whatever happened in the past I’m trying to move on from,” Ellis said. “Everybody in the world knows the frustration that was on my face – every player on that team and in the organization. It was a tough time, but now things have changed. “It’s all a new start.” Yahoo! Sports
The two finally began to grow closer toward the end of last season after Ellis’ wife, Juanika, and Curry’s fiancee, Ayesha Alexander, became good friends. Juanika had also made it a point to tell Ellis that he was wrong in his assertion that he and Curry couldn’t play together. Ellis then picked up the entire tab for Curry’s 22nd birthday party in March. Curry also attended Ellis’ and Juanika’s wedding over the summer in Mississippi. “I took it as a shock because that was my first exposure to him and the team,” Curry said of Ellis’ initial comments. “But then I realized he didn’t know me well, and I earned his trust with my play.” Yahoo! Sports
“I’m not going to sit here and try to bash and say anything bad about [Nelson],” Ellis said. “He was a great coach. If it weren’t for playing in his system, I wouldn’t be the player that I am and had the [improvements] I had. “There were some doubts in my mind that he had a leash on me because he didn’t let me do certain things that no one knew about. I’m just going to put all that behind me and do what I can for coach Smart.” Yahoo! Sports
that all depends. if they did, they'd get a new arena which isnt stupid and is needed. just cuz oracle is the "nicest" pro stadium in the bay doesnt make it good.
it would probably bear near ATT park where lots of new business is being developed.
the weak part with that, is ticket prices would go up some, and public transportation becomes more of a bitch.
but from a bizwiz standpoint, it isnt stupid at all.
it would probably bear near ATT park where lots of new business is being developed.
the weak part with that, is ticket prices would go up some, and public transportation becomes more of a bitch.
but from a bizwiz standpoint, it isnt stupid at all.
Golden State Warriors forward David Lee underwent a follow-up procedure last night at Stanford Hospital to cleanse the infected area around the puncture wound on his left elbow, the team announced today. Lee was admitted to Stanford Hospital on Sunday night for treatment and monitoring. He will remain hospitalized and receive continuous treatment (including IVs and antibiotics) and continuous monitoring, by Dr. Bill Maloney, Dr. Tim McAdams and Dr. Frank Chen, until the infection is resolved. San Francisco Chronicle
Smart took Ellis out after committing his fifth foul early in the fourth quarter, and the Warriors up 92-78. When Ellis returned with under two minutes remaining, the lead was down to four. “I don’t like it,” Ellis responded, when asked about sitting much of the fourth quarter. “I don’t like it. At all.” CSNBayArea.com
When Ellis was asked if it was tough for him to watch the Warriors lead dwindle, he said: “C’mon, man. It was very hard to watch. That’s what I do. I play basketball. That’s my love for the game. That’s what I do. In that situation, I do want to be in the game. We got a win. Move on.” CSNBayArea.com
“I tried to buy time,” Smart said. “Tried to buy that time. If he comes in (earlier), gets a foul then he’s out of the game. I would have taken that chance. Even if he came back into the game and we were down he could still make a play to tie the game or win the game.” CSNBayArea.com
Sam Amick: Key point learned today about GSW coach Keith Smart: his "multi-year" contract is a two-year deal with a team option for next season. Twitter
Marcus Thompson: New owner Joe Lacob on Don Nelson: "I don’t care if it’s $6 million, he wasn’t the right guy to coach this team." Twitter
Today at an introductory luncheon for the community and media, though, an interesting item was revealed . Lacob has installed his son, Kirk Lacob, as Director of Basketball Operations. Well, okay, that's not exactly the ideal choice for such a big position, but it happens. After all, Josh Kroenke just took over as owner of the Denver Nuggets. I'm sure Kirk has tons of experience. Let's see he graduated from Stanford in... 2010? On the junior Lacob's LinkedIn Profile (archived image found here ), found by Warriors blog Golden State of Mind , the younger Lacob lists internships at a textbook sales company , founding the Stanford Club Basketball team , and working as an intern with the Celtics. CBSSports.com
Smart took Ellis out after committing his fifth foul early in the fourth quarter, and the Warriors up 92-78. When Ellis returned with under two minutes remaining, the lead was down to four. “I don’t like it,” Ellis responded, when asked about sitting much of the fourth quarter. “I don’t like it. At all.” CSNBayArea.com
When Ellis was asked if it was tough for him to watch the Warriors lead dwindle, he said: “C’mon, man. It was very hard to watch. That’s what I do. I play basketball. That’s my love for the game. That’s what I do. In that situation, I do want to be in the game. We got a win. Move on.” CSNBayArea.com
“I tried to buy time,” Smart said. “Tried to buy that time. If he comes in (earlier), gets a foul then he’s out of the game. I would have taken that chance. Even if he came back into the game and we were down he could still make a play to tie the game or win the game.” CSNBayArea.com
Sam Amick: Key point learned today about GSW coach Keith Smart: his "multi-year" contract is a two-year deal with a team option for next season. Twitter
Marcus Thompson: New owner Joe Lacob on Don Nelson: "I don’t care if it’s $6 million, he wasn’t the right guy to coach this team." Twitter
Today at an introductory luncheon for the community and media, though, an interesting item was revealed . Lacob has installed his son, Kirk Lacob, as Director of Basketball Operations. Well, okay, that's not exactly the ideal choice for such a big position, but it happens. After all, Josh Kroenke just took over as owner of the Denver Nuggets. I'm sure Kirk has tons of experience. Let's see he graduated from Stanford in... 2010? On the junior Lacob's LinkedIn Profile (archived image found here ), found by Warriors blog Golden State of Mind , the younger Lacob lists internships at a textbook sales company , founding the Stanford Club Basketball team , and working as an intern with the Celtics. CBSSports.com
Warriors power forward David Lee had his second surgical procedure to flush out an infection in his left elbow Monday, setting off a whirlwind of speculation about how the injury was intially treated. In a unique move by the Warriors, who are usually guarded when it comes to injuries, they made the doctor available to the media. Dr. Bill Maloney said the infection probably could not have been avoided, explained the process for treatment, and offered a glowing outlook on Lee's recovery. San Francisco Chronicle
Lee, the Warriors' $80-million man, got a puncture wound from Wilson Chandler's tooth in the third quarter of the Warriors' win over the Knicks on Wednesday (see video below). Lee's elbow was wrapped, he returned to the game and he made two free throws with 1.5 seconds left to put the Warriors up by five points. After the game, the Knicks' doctors cleaned the wound and sent Lee on his way. "I know there is a lot of speculation out there, but it almost doesn't matter how it was treated," Maloney said. "You're going to have to open it up eventually. I don't think they could have avoided this, even if somebody would have treated him differently in New York. "The dye was cast when he got the tooth through the skin with a deep enough puncture wound to allow the bacteria to get in there." San Francisco Chronicle
According to sources, the initial expectation after Lee sustained the injury on Nov. 12 was that Lee would be out about two weeks. That timetable could still be accurate though it is possible Lee could be out a bit longer. Contra Costa Times
Warriors owner Joe Lacob defended his decision to make his son the first hire of the new regime, saying Tuesday that Kirk Lacob is "incredibly qualified and capable." The younger Lacob, who graduated from Stanford in June, was named the Warriors' director of basketball operations - although no official announcement has been made. Despite the lofty title, the elder Lacob said his son was starting along the organization's bottom rung and will report to general manager Larry Riley. "Forget titles. They don't mean anything," Joe Lacob said. "He'll be working on statistical things, things he's very good at. Looking at analysis. Helping with the draft." San Francisco Chronicle
Kirk Lacob was recruited by some Division III schools after averaging 7.7 points and 2.7 assists as a senior at Atherton's Menlo School. Instead, he decided to attend Stanford, where he tried to walk on. "It didn't work out," Joe Lacob said. "He wasn't really a Pac-10 basketball player, but he started Stanford club basketball." San Francisco Chronicle
Lee, the Warriors' $80-million man, got a puncture wound from Wilson Chandler's tooth in the third quarter of the Warriors' win over the Knicks on Wednesday (see video below). Lee's elbow was wrapped, he returned to the game and he made two free throws with 1.5 seconds left to put the Warriors up by five points. After the game, the Knicks' doctors cleaned the wound and sent Lee on his way. "I know there is a lot of speculation out there, but it almost doesn't matter how it was treated," Maloney said. "You're going to have to open it up eventually. I don't think they could have avoided this, even if somebody would have treated him differently in New York. "The dye was cast when he got the tooth through the skin with a deep enough puncture wound to allow the bacteria to get in there." San Francisco Chronicle
According to sources, the initial expectation after Lee sustained the injury on Nov. 12 was that Lee would be out about two weeks. That timetable could still be accurate though it is possible Lee could be out a bit longer. Contra Costa Times
Warriors owner Joe Lacob defended his decision to make his son the first hire of the new regime, saying Tuesday that Kirk Lacob is "incredibly qualified and capable." The younger Lacob, who graduated from Stanford in June, was named the Warriors' director of basketball operations - although no official announcement has been made. Despite the lofty title, the elder Lacob said his son was starting along the organization's bottom rung and will report to general manager Larry Riley. "Forget titles. They don't mean anything," Joe Lacob said. "He'll be working on statistical things, things he's very good at. Looking at analysis. Helping with the draft." San Francisco Chronicle
Kirk Lacob was recruited by some Division III schools after averaging 7.7 points and 2.7 assists as a senior at Atherton's Menlo School. Instead, he decided to attend Stanford, where he tried to walk on. "It didn't work out," Joe Lacob said. "He wasn't really a Pac-10 basketball player, but he started Stanford club basketball." San Francisco Chronicle
Look at this hating ass shit, hope this motivates the Warriors
Golden State Warriors' start an illusion
The Warriors' 7-4 record is great for morale, but they still have major issues
It happens every year about this time -- a basement dweller from the previous season soars out of the gate and looks like a playoff contender in the first month of the season. The 2010-11 nominee? The Golden State Warriors.
With a 7-4 record heading into their Friday night matchup against the reeling New York Knicks, the Warriors have the league's attention. It's a new beginning in the Bay Area; new ownership, a new head coach, a new color scheme and a new highest-paid player give this team a promising sense of rebirth after a miserable ending to the Don Nelson era.
But looking deeper into the opening act, there are signs that the Warriors' hot start should be attributed more to beginner's luck than actual talent.
The bad news
Take a good look at the teams the Warriors have beaten so far: the Detroit Pistons, Knicks, Toronto Raptors, Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, Los Angeles Clippers and Houston Rockets. Not exactly a murderer's row. Aside from their Jazz victory, which shouldn't be entirely disregarded, the Warriors' wins have come against losing teams with a combined record of 17-38.
Adding to this skepticism is Golden State's negative scoring margin, as it has been outscored by its opponents on the season by an average of 1.3 points per contest. In fact, outside of the Warriors' matchup with the one-win Clippers, none of their margins of victory has been more than seven points.
The semigood news
But that isn't to say the Warriors aren't playing good basketball. Newly promoted head coach Keith Smart made a pledge this past summer to build his team around defense, a tune that hasn't been sung in the Warriors' camp in what seems like a decade. As expected, Smart's offseason aspirations were greeted by a barrage of snarky comments within the basketball community.
The Warriors? Play defense? No chance.
Well, look who's laughing now. The Warriors are actually playing defense. Not just trying, mind you, but legitimately stopping opposing offenses. In fact, they enter Friday night's game as a top-10 defensive team, allowing just 102.9 points per 100 possessions. That's 0.6 points stingier than Larry Brown's Charlotte Bobcats, who led the league in defensive efficiency last season, and 1.4 points better than the defending champs, the Los Angeles Lakers.
But just when we feel it's safe to tout the Warriors' progress on the defensive end, strength of schedule rears its ugly head. Golden State has faced the league's worst offenses. (The Raptors, Knicks, Pistons, Grizzlies, Clippers and Bucks all rank in the bottom 10 in offensive efficiency.) What's worse, Golden State has been lit up by its more capable opponents, allowing an average of 118.3 points to the Lakers, Rockets and Chicago Bulls.
The silver lining
Although the Warriors have reached 7-4 with mostly smoke and mirrors, it may be the perfect time to cash in and start shopping guard Monta Ellis, who's averaging 26.5 points, 4.8 assists and 2.5 steals on the season. The 25-year-old undersized 2-guard is this generation's answer to Allen Iverson, a scorer who built his reputation on gaudy point totals as opposed to efficiency that would help his team win more games.
“
Curry, to me, is the closest player in the NBA to [Steve] Nash.
” -- Western Conference GM
One Western Conference general manager believes that Stephen Curry, not Ellis, should be the franchise cornerstone, pointing out that Ellis could be an asset providing a scoring punch off the bench for a contender. That's if you can persuade him to go there. "He's definitely a quality NBA player," the GM said. "I just think he's overpaid.
"Curry, to me, is the closest player in the NBA to [Steve] Nash. I don't think there's going to be another Nash since he's so skilled with the ball, but Curry's the closest thing to his set of decision-making and shooting skills. He's the one to build around."
In addition to the 22-year-old Curry, the Warriors have solidified their front line, with prized free agent David Lee and center Andris Biedrins signed for the long haul. But their depth up front is paper-thin, making Lee's freak elbow injury even more troublesome. The former Knicks big man's infected elbow should table him for at least a week, leaving the Warriors short-handed against New York on Friday and the Lakers on Sunday.
But the team's biggest surprise out of the gate has been former Heat forward Dorell Wright, who's starting for the Warriors after signing a three-year deal for their midlevel exception this offseason. The 25-year-old's red-hot 3-point shooting has been key in their wins, especially when he drilled seven treys against the Grizzlies. But he should regress a bit from his current rate of 44.1 percent, which is almost 10 percentage points above his career mark of 34.4 percent. He's doing his best Anthony Morrow impression from beyond the arc, but don't expect it to last much longer.
The 7-4 start should raise the spirits for a franchise in need of a serious confidence boost. But rest assured, after some fortuitous scheduling, this Warriors start is more fluke than for real.
Tom Haberstroh is a writer for ESPN Insider and ESPN.com's Heat Index.
Golden State Warriors' start an illusion
The Warriors' 7-4 record is great for morale, but they still have major issues
It happens every year about this time -- a basement dweller from the previous season soars out of the gate and looks like a playoff contender in the first month of the season. The 2010-11 nominee? The Golden State Warriors.
With a 7-4 record heading into their Friday night matchup against the reeling New York Knicks, the Warriors have the league's attention. It's a new beginning in the Bay Area; new ownership, a new head coach, a new color scheme and a new highest-paid player give this team a promising sense of rebirth after a miserable ending to the Don Nelson era.
But looking deeper into the opening act, there are signs that the Warriors' hot start should be attributed more to beginner's luck than actual talent.
The bad news
Take a good look at the teams the Warriors have beaten so far: the Detroit Pistons, Knicks, Toronto Raptors, Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, Los Angeles Clippers and Houston Rockets. Not exactly a murderer's row. Aside from their Jazz victory, which shouldn't be entirely disregarded, the Warriors' wins have come against losing teams with a combined record of 17-38.
Adding to this skepticism is Golden State's negative scoring margin, as it has been outscored by its opponents on the season by an average of 1.3 points per contest. In fact, outside of the Warriors' matchup with the one-win Clippers, none of their margins of victory has been more than seven points.
The semigood news
But that isn't to say the Warriors aren't playing good basketball. Newly promoted head coach Keith Smart made a pledge this past summer to build his team around defense, a tune that hasn't been sung in the Warriors' camp in what seems like a decade. As expected, Smart's offseason aspirations were greeted by a barrage of snarky comments within the basketball community.
The Warriors? Play defense? No chance.
Well, look who's laughing now. The Warriors are actually playing defense. Not just trying, mind you, but legitimately stopping opposing offenses. In fact, they enter Friday night's game as a top-10 defensive team, allowing just 102.9 points per 100 possessions. That's 0.6 points stingier than Larry Brown's Charlotte Bobcats, who led the league in defensive efficiency last season, and 1.4 points better than the defending champs, the Los Angeles Lakers.
But just when we feel it's safe to tout the Warriors' progress on the defensive end, strength of schedule rears its ugly head. Golden State has faced the league's worst offenses. (The Raptors, Knicks, Pistons, Grizzlies, Clippers and Bucks all rank in the bottom 10 in offensive efficiency.) What's worse, Golden State has been lit up by its more capable opponents, allowing an average of 118.3 points to the Lakers, Rockets and Chicago Bulls.
The silver lining
Although the Warriors have reached 7-4 with mostly smoke and mirrors, it may be the perfect time to cash in and start shopping guard Monta Ellis, who's averaging 26.5 points, 4.8 assists and 2.5 steals on the season. The 25-year-old undersized 2-guard is this generation's answer to Allen Iverson, a scorer who built his reputation on gaudy point totals as opposed to efficiency that would help his team win more games.
“
Curry, to me, is the closest player in the NBA to [Steve] Nash.
” -- Western Conference GM
One Western Conference general manager believes that Stephen Curry, not Ellis, should be the franchise cornerstone, pointing out that Ellis could be an asset providing a scoring punch off the bench for a contender. That's if you can persuade him to go there. "He's definitely a quality NBA player," the GM said. "I just think he's overpaid.
"Curry, to me, is the closest player in the NBA to [Steve] Nash. I don't think there's going to be another Nash since he's so skilled with the ball, but Curry's the closest thing to his set of decision-making and shooting skills. He's the one to build around."
In addition to the 22-year-old Curry, the Warriors have solidified their front line, with prized free agent David Lee and center Andris Biedrins signed for the long haul. But their depth up front is paper-thin, making Lee's freak elbow injury even more troublesome. The former Knicks big man's infected elbow should table him for at least a week, leaving the Warriors short-handed against New York on Friday and the Lakers on Sunday.
But the team's biggest surprise out of the gate has been former Heat forward Dorell Wright, who's starting for the Warriors after signing a three-year deal for their midlevel exception this offseason. The 25-year-old's red-hot 3-point shooting has been key in their wins, especially when he drilled seven treys against the Grizzlies. But he should regress a bit from his current rate of 44.1 percent, which is almost 10 percentage points above his career mark of 34.4 percent. He's doing his best Anthony Morrow impression from beyond the arc, but don't expect it to last much longer.
The 7-4 start should raise the spirits for a franchise in need of a serious confidence boost. But rest assured, after some fortuitous scheduling, this Warriors start is more fluke than for real.
Tom Haberstroh is a writer for ESPN Insider and ESPN.com's Heat Index.
