***GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS 2010-2011 SEASON THREAD***
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Warriors let this one get away.. Way too many unforced turnovers, and bad shooting yet they managed to keep it close.. They were still a shot or two away from a W.. Regardless a game that should have been won and we take the L... We will see Detroit at home next Monday so we can get one back hopefully.. Gotta get sum wins on this road trip tho.. Can't wait to see a fully healthy roster, hopefully that will decrease radmonovichs PT...
rough game tonight.
david lee's offense hasnt really showed up yet, and that hurt us tonight. 11 points versus a team with weak big men is not getting it done.
curry also had a real rough night, 10 points on 3 of 12 shooting in 30 minutes.
that said, we still had a chance to win while playing a tough game on the road and not performing to our normal abilities. this is another game last year that we dont have a chance in.
curry and ellis both had 3's at the end of the game rattle in and out - if either 1 of those goes in we probably would have gone to overtime at the least.
lets go into toronto tomorro and play like how we can play and run them out of their own gym.
david lee's offense hasnt really showed up yet, and that hurt us tonight. 11 points versus a team with weak big men is not getting it done.
curry also had a real rough night, 10 points on 3 of 12 shooting in 30 minutes.
that said, we still had a chance to win while playing a tough game on the road and not performing to our normal abilities. this is another game last year that we dont have a chance in.
curry and ellis both had 3's at the end of the game rattle in and out - if either 1 of those goes in we probably would have gone to overtime at the least.
lets go into toronto tomorro and play like how we can play and run them out of their own gym.
hopefully we can trade Radman for any1 that can bring some consistent offense off the bench. whether its a guard or a forward either can work. we might even want to look into the d-league and test a 10 day out.
once we get fully healthy, we will have a strong rotation of big men with udoh and amundson returning.
once we get fully healthy, we will have a strong rotation of big men with udoh and amundson returning.
dont underestimate detroit. the pistons are a solid team at home. their only losses at home were to the celtics and the thunder.
but we were still in the game and still had a chance while playing shitty. Ellis and D Wright didnt get much help on offense yet we were right there with a chance to win. we had 2 different shots at the end of the game that went half in and rattled out - if either of those dropped we probably would have gone to OT.
how u gonna say we didnt have a chance when u didnt even watch the game? and when it was a 1 basket game for the last 2 minutes?
we could still win every game left on this road trip and not give a shit about the pistons game. even if we lost 1 more time, thats a greatly successful road trip especially for us.
our team will only get stronger as the season goes on and each test we learn from early helps us more so in the long run.
but we were still in the game and still had a chance while playing shitty. Ellis and D Wright didnt get much help on offense yet we were right there with a chance to win. we had 2 different shots at the end of the game that went half in and rattled out - if either of those dropped we probably would have gone to OT.
how u gonna say we didnt have a chance when u didnt even watch the game? and when it was a 1 basket game for the last 2 minutes?
we could still win every game left on this road trip and not give a shit about the pistons game. even if we lost 1 more time, thats a greatly successful road trip especially for us.
our team will only get stronger as the season goes on and each test we learn from early helps us more so in the long run.
i only saw the 4th qtr. and it was really close i felt we could of won, everytime we cut it to one they ended up answering with a bucket and under two minutes we couldn't get that one stop. alot of bad shots too from reggie, radman, and carney. curry had that jumper he hit after a spin move that was sick. rotations were a bit slow aswell.
i think everyone summed it up pretty much in regards to todays game..dumbass turnovers...ice cold from the field, however still being in it was a good sign. inbounding the ball to a pistons player TWICE is absolutely unacceptable.
i cant believe currys 3 rimmed out. winning this game would have set the tone for the rest of the trip. i want road wins
i cant believe currys 3 rimmed out. winning this game would have set the tone for the rest of the trip. i want road wins
» Sunday, November 7 2010
Ellis has Warriors fans abuzz and, perhaps most important, management in awe. The Warriors still are interested in landing another difference maker, but, according to multiple team sources, there are only a handful of players who would make the Warriors consider trading Ellis. San Jose Mercury-News
That means, though the trade deadline is three months away, a trade involving Ellis is looking unlikely. The sources said Warriors' brass are loving the new Ellis, his pairing with point guard Stephen Curry and how he is leading the team. "He's one of the elite players in this league," said Warriors small forward Dorell Wright, who won a championship alongside perennial All-NBA guard Dwyane Wade. "He can do everything. The only dude I've seen get 40 points and shoot just two or three 3-pointers is D-Wade. I think (Ellis) gets overshadowed because of the teams that have been here in the past. But I think he's right there. His time is going to come as we continue to start winning." San Jose Mercury-News
While rumors of an Ellis trade were rampant last summer, sources tell me the Warriors have no intention of moving Ellis. While some raised their eyebrows when he signed his contract two years ago, now a deal that averages $11 million per looks like a bargain. ESPN.com
At this point, neither Iguodala nor Smith would be enough in return for Ellis. One source said the Warriors probably wouldn't part with Ellis even if it meant landing Anthony, who some consider a top-five player in the NBA. The three years, $33 million remaining on Ellis' contract after this season contributes to the Warriors' growing desire to keep him around. The kind of player the Warriors would accept in return likely would have a contract averaging a higher salary. With a new collective bargaining agreement still to be hashed out, Ellis' $11 million a year looks much more appealing than $13 million or $15 million per. San Jose Mercury-News
Lee knew that the probabilities of a return to the Knicks were slim in the spring. The summer made it official. The Bulls and the Nets were intriguing. The Raptors showed interest. Phoenix, too. The Knicks? “I’m not even sure they made phone calls whatsoever,” Lee said. “It was pretty much assumed if they wanted to make any further contact that they would have let us know, and there was never a phone call until the sign-and-trade, and they said they were ready for that.” New York Times
Lee understands that the Knicks and their thrown-together roster did not win as many games as they should have. He believes he could have played with Stoudemire. “I don’t see why not,” he said. But signing both would have damaged the Knicks’ financial ability to pursue future players. “David wanted to stay, no question,” said Lee’s agent, Mark Bartelstein, who added that he talked with the Knicks in the summer about the parameters of a sign and trade. “He loved New York. He wanted to stay. It was kind of tough for David that the Knicks were going in a different direction.” New York Times
On the first day of training camp, head coach Keith Smart made a pact with his players. He sealed it with a handshake from each player. ANDRIS BIEDRINS: “I was thinking, ‘Shake his hands or not?’ (laugh) He was like holding (his hand out), holding, holding. Finally I was like ‘OK.’ “What was the pact? Basically, that they don’t take anything personal. Smart said he wanted to make it clear in advance that when he gets on them, he isn’t trying to dog them out, but trying to make them better. He wanted their approval to be hard on them at times without it becoming an issue, to challenge them without it turning into anything more. That agreement was challenged in Friday’s win over Utah. During the timeout, at the 2:49 mark of the second quarter, Smart could be seen barking at his $80 million power forward, who then barked back. KEITH SMART: “At times when you’re not doing what you need, I’m going to let you know. But also know that I don’t hang on to anything. It’s over. He was supposed to do something, and he didn’t do it.” Contra Costa Times
Lee, who spent five seasons in Drama Central while with the Knicks, said he knows that situation could’ve grown into something worse. And Smart knows how lingering feuds and poor communication can disrupt a locker room. He saw his share of player-coach beefs under Don Nelson — who had lenghthy issues with Stephen Jackson, Baron Davis, Monta Ellis and Al Harrington, to name a few. But both parties held this moment up as an example of the rapport and culture of accountability they’ve been able to build since the start of training camp. SMART: “They know its not personal. They know it won’t linger. From the moment that happen to the time we went back on the floor, it was over. And that’s how I operate. And they know that. We’ve all agreed with each other with a handshake that I can coach you. And I recommitted that today at shootaround. ‘Do I still have permission to coach you to help us win basketball games? And they all agreed.” Contra Costa Times
Ellis has Warriors fans abuzz and, perhaps most important, management in awe. The Warriors still are interested in landing another difference maker, but, according to multiple team sources, there are only a handful of players who would make the Warriors consider trading Ellis. San Jose Mercury-News
That means, though the trade deadline is three months away, a trade involving Ellis is looking unlikely. The sources said Warriors' brass are loving the new Ellis, his pairing with point guard Stephen Curry and how he is leading the team. "He's one of the elite players in this league," said Warriors small forward Dorell Wright, who won a championship alongside perennial All-NBA guard Dwyane Wade. "He can do everything. The only dude I've seen get 40 points and shoot just two or three 3-pointers is D-Wade. I think (Ellis) gets overshadowed because of the teams that have been here in the past. But I think he's right there. His time is going to come as we continue to start winning." San Jose Mercury-News
While rumors of an Ellis trade were rampant last summer, sources tell me the Warriors have no intention of moving Ellis. While some raised their eyebrows when he signed his contract two years ago, now a deal that averages $11 million per looks like a bargain. ESPN.com
At this point, neither Iguodala nor Smith would be enough in return for Ellis. One source said the Warriors probably wouldn't part with Ellis even if it meant landing Anthony, who some consider a top-five player in the NBA. The three years, $33 million remaining on Ellis' contract after this season contributes to the Warriors' growing desire to keep him around. The kind of player the Warriors would accept in return likely would have a contract averaging a higher salary. With a new collective bargaining agreement still to be hashed out, Ellis' $11 million a year looks much more appealing than $13 million or $15 million per. San Jose Mercury-News
Lee knew that the probabilities of a return to the Knicks were slim in the spring. The summer made it official. The Bulls and the Nets were intriguing. The Raptors showed interest. Phoenix, too. The Knicks? “I’m not even sure they made phone calls whatsoever,” Lee said. “It was pretty much assumed if they wanted to make any further contact that they would have let us know, and there was never a phone call until the sign-and-trade, and they said they were ready for that.” New York Times
Lee understands that the Knicks and their thrown-together roster did not win as many games as they should have. He believes he could have played with Stoudemire. “I don’t see why not,” he said. But signing both would have damaged the Knicks’ financial ability to pursue future players. “David wanted to stay, no question,” said Lee’s agent, Mark Bartelstein, who added that he talked with the Knicks in the summer about the parameters of a sign and trade. “He loved New York. He wanted to stay. It was kind of tough for David that the Knicks were going in a different direction.” New York Times
On the first day of training camp, head coach Keith Smart made a pact with his players. He sealed it with a handshake from each player. ANDRIS BIEDRINS: “I was thinking, ‘Shake his hands or not?’ (laugh) He was like holding (his hand out), holding, holding. Finally I was like ‘OK.’ “What was the pact? Basically, that they don’t take anything personal. Smart said he wanted to make it clear in advance that when he gets on them, he isn’t trying to dog them out, but trying to make them better. He wanted their approval to be hard on them at times without it becoming an issue, to challenge them without it turning into anything more. That agreement was challenged in Friday’s win over Utah. During the timeout, at the 2:49 mark of the second quarter, Smart could be seen barking at his $80 million power forward, who then barked back. KEITH SMART: “At times when you’re not doing what you need, I’m going to let you know. But also know that I don’t hang on to anything. It’s over. He was supposed to do something, and he didn’t do it.” Contra Costa Times
Lee, who spent five seasons in Drama Central while with the Knicks, said he knows that situation could’ve grown into something worse. And Smart knows how lingering feuds and poor communication can disrupt a locker room. He saw his share of player-coach beefs under Don Nelson — who had lenghthy issues with Stephen Jackson, Baron Davis, Monta Ellis and Al Harrington, to name a few. But both parties held this moment up as an example of the rapport and culture of accountability they’ve been able to build since the start of training camp. SMART: “They know its not personal. They know it won’t linger. From the moment that happen to the time we went back on the floor, it was over. And that’s how I operate. And they know that. We’ve all agreed with each other with a handshake that I can coach you. And I recommitted that today at shootaround. ‘Do I still have permission to coach you to help us win basketball games? And they all agreed.” Contra Costa Times
