***Golden State Warriors 2010-2011 Offseason Thread***

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VanD

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I dont think Ellison was as serious about buying the team as the papers made it seem. He's the kind of guy, with the kind of money, if he wanted something it would be his momentarily. Were talking about a guy with the biggest yacht in the world and a chrome plated cobra, lol. Fans were excited at the prospect of someone with money throw a new staff and a bunch of money at the team. I think the group that got the team with NBA experience and the want is a better step in the right direction then what Ellison may or may not have done.
this post makes it obvious that cohan didnt want ellison to come in and do all that because cohan was such a tight wad.

what really happened and how it went down, who cares?

there is no way to say who would be a better owner but its obvious that either is much better than cohan.
 

VanD

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If Nelson quit coaching after the Mavs, the Warriors would've never accomplished the biggest upset in playoffs history.
speculation, there is no way to kno what would have happened.

but do u also believe that nelson was the only coach that would have been able to coach that victory over the mavs? cuz i think we could have won that series with nearly any head coach, our team just dominates the mavs and its a bad matchup for them.

The Mavs didn't draft Dirk, get your facts straight. The Bucks did and traded him for Tractor Traylor. You don't think Nelson had anything to do with that trade? You're wrong. He had just as much to do with acquiring Dirk as he did with shipping away Webber.
ok ok ok, but thats kinda like saying the warriors didnt draft jamison. and u missed the point about nelson not being the main reason for them turning it around.

Trading Webber was obviously a huge mistake. Harrington is a clown and a career journeyman. Stephen Jackson praised Nelson when the W's were winning and played his best ball under Nellie.
webber wasnt just a mistake, it was a war and either him or nellie had to go obviously.

harrington while u consider him a clown, was a valuable player especially to our team, regardless if u didnt like him or think he isnt good we didnt get value for him - altho it was much more value than jackson who is a better player than al. in the end they let crawford go for nothing.

jacksons praise was typical athlete interview garbage, they spit some crap out because they have to have interviews or they get fined. either way, it was another player that got into problems with the coach that didnt need to happen and hurt the team bad.
 
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Theres no way the W's would've won that series if Montgomery or Mussleman were coaching that team, I can tell you that. Nelson was familiar with that Mavs roster and knew how to expose every weakness. Baron also had a good relationship with Nelson and bought into his system as well as everyone else on the team.

Nelson was a big reason why every team turned around when he got there. Its a known fact he's great at evaluating young talent. How do you think the W's have been able to have so much success with D league players?

Harrington was a non factor during that whole playoff series and wasn't near as valuable as Baron or Jackson. I don't think many teams were willing to give up much value for him.

Jackson was just mad because the team was losing. He loved playing in Nellie's small ball system when the W's were winning but once they were losing suddenly he hated it. That's on Jack, he's a solid basketball player but also a nut. He claimed he wanted to be a Warrior for life and Rowell signed him to an extension...a year later he wants out. Go figure..
 

VanD

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Theres no way the W's would've won that series if Montgomery or Mussleman were coaching that team, I can tell you that. Nelson was familiar with that Mavs roster and knew how to expose every weakness. Baron also had a good relationship with Nelson and bought into his system as well as everyone else on the team.
the Mavs get exposed every year in the playoffs, it was our team not the coach.
 
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I believe the Mavs finished with one of the best regular season records ever that season(cant remember where exactly they ranked)...The W's snuck into the playoffs the last game of the regular season. Losing that series for Mavs was different than any of their other PO exits. They were the favorite to win it all that year.
The W's roster did create alot of mismatches for the Mavs and that had alot to do with them winning the series but you still gotta give credit to Nelson.

Like I've said, I'm not a Don Nelson fan(just like you), but I still give props when they're due.
 

VanD

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Bulls have their starting two guard as NBA sources say they agree to $12.5 million three-year deal with Ronnie Brewer


^^^ dunno our money situation but this woulda been a nice signing
 

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Don Nelson isn't a horrible coach... like evidence said... he is good at causing mismatches

he's just old and tired... plus his coaching style doesn't lead to championships... obviously... but it can lead to wins

I respect Nelson for what he's done in this league... and some of the things he's done with this team specifically... I just think it's time for a change

new ownership, young players, new team colors and logo... it only makes sense to get a new younger coach
 

VanD

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Right...typical fan outlook.

When the Warriors win its because of the players...when they lose its all Don Nelson's fault. Got'cha :cheeky:
maybe u dont remember those series if u think 'typical fan outlook'

the jazz series should have been much more competitive. nelson did nothing to even slow them down.
 

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Spoelstra, who is in Las Vegas to oversee the Heat's summer-league entry, said he was amused by the speculation. Jon Spoelstra, the longtime former NBA executive, has served as vice chairman of marketing for baseball properties for Mandalay Group, whose CEO is part of the Warriors' new ownership. "My Dad worked for Mandalay Sports and worked for Peter Guber for a long time," Erik Spoelstra told the Sun Sentinel, "but this is a separate deal." South Florida Sun-Sentinel
 
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maybe u dont remember those series if u think 'typical fan outlook'

the jazz series should have been much more competitive. nelson did nothing to even slow them down.
I wasn't even referring to the playoff series when I said that...it just seems to be your general outlook.

When has Don Nelson done ANYTHING to slow ANY team down? Defense is not his style..OBVIOUSLY. The series may have been different if J-Rich and Pietrus could hit clutch free throws.
 
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id like to interject and say as soon as nellie is gone, itll mean more to me then the team actually being sold. now if we can rid of that fag rowell and that doofus larry riley ill be happy. nellie would rather be smoking a friggin cigar in maui, plus he;s had a history of clashing with players. get him the fuck outta here asap

edit: and his style doesnt win CHAMPIONSHIPS, which is all that matters last time i checked
 
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There was two games against the jazz they had in the bag that they let get away....to not give Nelson credit for them being in the playoffs and beating the mavs is ridiculous....
 
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but what has he done since? we beat the mavs because we matched up perfectly with them. utah, a real nba time w/ what u need (size) manhandled us. again, no rings
 
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IM KINDA EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW OWNERS, THE GUY WAS PART OWNER OF THE CELTICS AND HAS AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP WHAT MORE CREDIBILITY DO YOU NEED, THE TEAM ISNT OFFICIALLY SOLD YET SO THEY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE FRONT OFFICE BUT YOU GOTTA KNOW THEY ARE GONNA GET RID OF NELSON, RILEY AND HOPEFULLY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ROBERT ROWELL, AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET SOMEONE LIKE JERRY WEST OR BRING BACK MULLIN TO BE GM, WE GOT SOME EXPIRING CONTRACTS SO HOPEFULLY BY MIDSEASON A TEAM WILL BE LOOKING TO UNLOAD A STAR PLAYER TO US
 

VanD

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Lacob spoke with equal amounts of passion and patience Thursday, the day he and Guber reached a purchase agreement with Chris Cohan for $450 million. Lacob promised to morph the Warriors into the NBA's "prime Western franchise," but he is well aware that putting his imprint on the team will take some time. "I enjoy and I love building things," the Silicon Valley venture capitalist said. "We try not to make rash decisions, but we will make bold decisions. We're going to take some chances. "That's how you take something from a certain level and build it into something bigger."
San Francisco Chronicle


On the other hand, Lacob, a minority owner with the Boston Celtics, has basketball acumen that leads some to believe he already could be talking with potential candidates. His evaluation could have started any time in the last decade as a season-ticket holder with the Warriors. "We're not going to be able to do it overnight, so I hope the fans are a little bit patient, but as a fan, I don't expect them to be too patient," Lacob said.
San Francisco Chronicle


There are some roster verdicts that can't wait that long. The Warriors have to decide about the futures of C.J. Watson and Anthony Tolliver before training camp commences. Watson is a restricted free agent who has gotten interest around the league, but the Warriors' desire to keep the guard has caused some teams to shy away from signing an offer sheet. General manager Larry Riley also has been in contact with Tolliver's representatives as they try to determine the value of the former NBA Development League player. "Those two things need to be addressed," Riley said. "Even though people look at those as having a little less magnitude, I think they're important. Those are the issues I'll be working on."
San Francisco Chronicle