Four police officers killed in Wash. state

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Sydal. Sometimes I think you have been very sheltered, but I know you have'nt. I feel I was very clear on the points that I made. I simply stated that "sometimes" the media, and/or Law Enforcement put out there very wicked and attrocious crimes in order to drum up public support so that they can take this guy down quicker. All of a sudden these reports are coming out. If he was such a sexual deviant/predator, he sure is out. And to be just caught up in a case like that a week prior, GTFOH....
 
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who's hurt in situations like these ? pigs ? the families ?i blame the pig for his familie's pain
you blame the pigs for his familiy's pain? you can not be serious.

placing blame on others for one's circumstances is an excuse many use. trust me, i have every reason to be bitter in regards to the system. I was a victim of circumstance, but do know i brought it upon myself at the end of the day.
 
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Sydal. Sometimes I think you have been very sheltered, but I know you have'nt. I feel I was very clear on the points that I made. I simply stated that "sometimes" the media, and/or Law Enforcement put out there very wicked and attrocious crimes in order to drum up public support so that they can take this guy down quicker. All of a sudden these reports are coming out. If he was such a sexual deviant/predator, he sure is out. And to be just caught up in a case like that a week prior, GTFOH....
HAHA! No, I haven't been sheltered at all.

If he was a petty criminal they would have slapped that on the news. I understand what you were saying. I do agree that the media hypes shit up and turns people into villains before they step into a courtroom...and I'll be the first to say that the word AMBUSH was improperly used in this case. This is the reason I decided against a career in journalism...the media is slanted as fuck. They have an agenda, and they want everybody to follow it.

Granted, previous cases have nothing to do with current cases...or at least they SHOULDN'T...that takes away from fair trials. I'm sure they know that people are more likely to turn in a rapist than a murderer...so they used that to their advantage. Kinda fucked off in my opinion, but smart...it shows that dude is not just a petty criminal, but a violent dude.

We can blame the system for letting this dude walk. The parole board, Huckaby, and whoever let his ass out on bail should be somewhat responsible for what happened to these cops...lose their fuckin' jobs or something...'cause here in Cali a rapist won't walk away from jail unless his ass is found not guilty...that's how it should be.
 
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you blame the pigs for his familiy's pain? you can not be serious.

placing blame on others for one's circumstances is an excuse many use. trust me, i have every reason to be bitter in regards to the system. I was a victim of circumstance, but do know i brought it upon myself at the end of the day.
You put on that Badge, you take ALL that comes with it. Good & Bad.
 
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You put on that Badge, you take ALL that comes with it. Good & Bad.
there is no doubt about that.

but why are we mad at law enforcement for displaying the same behavior in the form of stereotyping, racial profiling,etc. that we in fact display in regards to them?

i am far from a supporter of law enforcement and the sytem but do not agree with blaming them all. that is what they do to us everyday and it is not right. we are not guilty by association, but they are? if that is the case how can we blame them for harassing someone who looks like a thug?
 
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there is no doubt about that.

but why are we mad at law enforcement for displaying the same behavior in the form of stereotyping, racial profiling,etc. that we in fact display in regards to them?

i am far from a supporter of law enforcement and the sytem but do not agree with blaming them all. that is what they do to us everyday and it is not right. we are not guilty by association, but they are? if that is the case how can we blame them for harassing someone who looks like a thug?
Point taken, but like I said, you put on the badge, you got whats coming, Good and Bad. As well as your family. Some people dont take jobs in Law Enforcement because it means they will have to change thier whole way of life to an extent. Because the actions of police as a whole, lots of times get taken out on a few (the four that were having coffee). This can be debated all night. It is wht it is, they will continue to brutalize, and victimize, and then there will be those who dont turn thier pistols on thier own (people), but on their oppressors who are terrorizing the community.

ON ANOTHER NOTE

I read most of that LONG ass post with all the different shit that the Police are doing to find "the Killer". They are puttin in SUPER EFFORT in doing this. Is a police officers life worth more than yours? More than mine? Shouldnt that same zeal exhibited when dealing with the "killers" of us common folk?
 
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you blame the pigs for his familiy's pain? you can not be serious.

placing blame on others for one's circumstances is an excuse many use. trust me, i have every reason to be bitter in regards to the system. I was a victim of circumstance, but do know i brought it upon myself at the end of the day.
it's his fault he's a pig , it's his fault he choses to be apart of an opressive system
 

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it's his fault he's a pig , it's his fault he choses to be apart of an opressive system
oppressive system? COme on now.
The function of police is to prevent crime so we can all live peaceful lives. Like everyone else, they fuck up sometimes (maybe more so than they should)
 
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Point taken, but like I said, you put on the badge, you got whats coming, Good and Bad. As well as your family. Some people dont take jobs in Law Enforcement because it means they will have to change thier whole way of life to an extent. Because the actions of police as a whole, lots of times get taken out on a few (the four that were having coffee). This can be debated all night. It is wht it is, they will continue to brutalize, and victimize, and then there will be those who dont turn thier pistols on thier own (people), but on their oppressors who are terrorizing the community.
i am with you, trust me. but the original system of law has been in place for 233 years i believe. we definately are not joining them, but need to show them they do have things fucked up. they know as much considering the changes regarding laws and statutes everyday. all i am saying is oppressing the oppressors is not the answer in my opinion.

ON ANOTHER NOTE

I read most of that LONG ass post with all the different shit that the Police are doing to find "the Killer". They are puttin in SUPER EFFORT in doing this. Is a police officers life worth more than yours? More than mine? Shouldnt that same zeal exhibited when dealing with the "killers" of us common folk?
it is bullshit. this is a great example of the double standard many of us are mad about. anything media worthy gets extra attention where as the average joe blow is swept under the rug. it is money related in the end.
 

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if you chose to believe that's on you , come on now your lord and savior woodie would agree 100%
shut up dumbass. I like the guys music i dont agree with him on everything. How come you never say stuff like this to mac dre or cougnut fans?
On an individual level, i dislike 95% of cops. But as a whole i realize they are necessary for society
 
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it's his fault he's a pig , it's his fault he choses to be apart of an opressive system
whether we like it or not, the system is in place. that same oppressive system does allow us opportunity whether you believe it or not. that college you go to, that career you speak of obtaining, thank uncle sam for that. go to mexico, afghanistan, irac, or some other third world country and ask them if they want to come to america. there is flaws because the system was put in place to protect personal interest, but what/who doesn't. rather than be upset, put yourself in a position to be heard if that is how you feel. tell the kids to step their game up to make change. that is how it happens, imo.
 
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shut up dumbass. I like the guys music i dont agree with him on everything. How come you never say stuff like this to mac dre or cougnut fans?
On an individual level, i dislike 95% of cops. But as a whole i realize they are necessary for society
if you took time to look at things they are NOT HERE FOR US , they are here to protect the intrests of a few. if they were here to stop crime there's many other things they could do but they keep a revolving door in county jail and prisons . you should know california it self is a prison state . it's big buisness police don't do shit but clean up the mess capitilism has created and keep everyone inline but if they wished to change conditions then they wouldn't for instance in california cut funding for public schools and higher education and put it into the department of corrections,oakland PD is hiring more officers what a great fuckin job they are doing.

these motherfuckers shoot people in the back all the time ( i was told in EMT school it's all how you report it ,same thing goes for law enforcement) and how many times do you think a young man is killed and a pig gets away with it because no one cares cause he has no family or it's not recorded on camera . in most major cities these pigs don't even live near the neighborhood they are protrolling how can they relate to them when this officer is not from there , more than likely is not from the same ethnic back round. then you get the cop who's black or brown so he wants to prove himself so he's even more brutal then white officers .
 

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if you took time to look at things they are NOT HERE FOR US , they are here to protect the intrests of a few. if they were here to stop crime there's many other things they could do but they keep a revolving door in county jail and prisons . you should know california it self is a prison state . it's big buisness police don't do shit but clean up the mess capitilism has created and keep everyone inline but if they wished to change conditions then they wouldn't for instance in california cut funding for public schools and higher education and put it into the department of corrections,oakland PD is hiring more officers what a great fuckin job they are doing.

these motherfuckers shoot people in the back all the time ( i was told in EMT school it's all how you report it ,same thing goes for law enforcement) and how many times do you think a young man is killed and a pig gets away with it because no one cares cause he has no family or it's not recorded on camera . in most major cities these pigs don't even live near the neighborhood they are protrolling how can they relate to them when this officer is not from there , more than likely is not from the same ethnic back round. then you get the cop who's black or brown so he wants to prove himself so he's even more brutal then white officers .
Thats a different debate all together. If you want to discuss the budget and prison system thats fine, i actually agree with you on a lot of that stuff, but we are talking about cops.
 

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Chairman Omali Yeshitela]
You have the emergence in human society
of this thing that's called the State
What is the State? The State is this organized bureaucracy
It is the po-lice department. It is the Army, the Navy
It is the prison system, the courts, and what have you
This is the State -- it is a repressive organization
But the state -- and gee, well, you know,
you've got to have the police, cause..
if there were no police, look at what you'd be doing to yourselves!
You'd be killing each other if there were no police!
But the reality is..
the police become necessary in human society
only at that junction in human society
where it is split between those who have and those who ain't got
 
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Thats a different debate all together. If you want to discuss the budget and prison system thats fine, i actually agree with you on a lot of that stuff, but we are talking about cops.
from the patrolling officers, to the DA, to the sheriffs, to the "corrections" officers, back to the cops one big marry go round.