E-40 wonders why Dr Dre won't work with him

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Ok, so Dre put on Snoop and Game(two of the most successful west coast artists of all time), has tried and failed to blow up other west coast artists(Bad Azz, Knocturnal) and is currently working hands on with Bishop Lamont(ARGUABLY the most talented lyricist on the west coast), all while trying to put out his own album. Is there any reason to give him static for anything. He was an integral part of the spotlight being out here before, to give the rest of the coast a chance to shine and keep it lit, but they fumbled. It's like the saying, you can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink. He's done enough.
 
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"if I was in Dre's position, I wouldn't turn my back on where I'm from, then expect the people where I'm from to buy my shit. "

OHH is DRE from VALLEJO now??
so.. Vallejo and E-40 is westcoast..
but DRE and LA is not??
so he can't say WESTCOAST anymore?

DRE made the westcoast the FORCE that it is.. not the other way around..
 
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^^^ That's not what I said bruh. I'm talking about the whole Westcoast. Dre is from the Westcoast, and he's turning his back on where he's from. I DIDNT SAY SHIT ABOUT Emuthfucking40....Can yall niggas learn how to read before u reply?
 
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Ok, so Dre put on Snoop and Game(two of the most successful west coast artists of all time), has tried and failed to blow up other west coast artists(Bad Azz, Knocturnal) and is currently working hands on with Bishop Lamont(ARGUABLY the most talented lyricist on the west coast), all while trying to put out his own album. Is there any reason to give him static for anything. He was an integral part of the spotlight being out here before, to give the rest of the coast a chance to shine and keep it lit, but they fumbled. It's like the saying, you can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink. He's done enough.
Three people in twenty years...Not bad.
 
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IF DRE IS from the WEST COAST??/ how is he turning his back on it?.. by working on his OWN record? instead of giving E-40 a beat.. that is the topic here right?.. you weren't talking about 40? you were talking about some other Artist?? whom he was turning his back on?? I dont get hows hes turning his back on the westcoast? HE IS THE WESTCOAST! DEFINATELY more WESTCOAST THEN 40?

now if you said bay? yeah, thats 40, short.. but WESTCOAST? thats DRE! pac!
 
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It doesn't matter how big those other cats are compared to Dre. The fact of the matter is, somebody had to put Wayne and Jeezy and Luda on. It's IMPOSSIBLE for a rapper nowadays to do it compleley by yourslef, inless u have a gimick backing you (Like Soulja Boy). You keep talking about spins on the radio, well don't you think it would be a whole lot eaiser for a Westcoast nigga to get play if they had Dre's backing? I'm not saying that Dre has to back anybody...Dre a grown ass man and gon whatever he want, I'm just saying that if I was in Dre's position, I wouldn't turn my back on where I'm from, then expect the people where I'm from to buy my shit.
jeezy and luda put out albums on small labels before they got big...weezy had mannie as a in house producer so he didn't have to have a big producer to blow him up

and you expectin dre to give some random internet rapper a beat to see if they shit will get radio spins? it don't work like that bruh bruh...
 
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Has 40 ever gone to the table with Dre, holding the amount of money Dre wants in order to make a record for somebody? If so, then it doesn't make sense. HOWEVER, Dre charges a grip for one track, and it's steep for a lot of artists.

A lot of cats get on Dre's case because he "takes credit for shit he didn't do", but what cats don't realize is Dre never goes on TV or in magazines saying he made certain beats...he says he PRODUCED those songs. Big difference. Once a lot of cats realize what a producer does and what a beat maker does, they will realize that Dre is a fuckin' genius and he gets the credit he deserves. Fact of the matter is, from day one NOBODY gave a fuck who made the beats...they gave a fuck about who made the RECORD!
 

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to be honest i dont see Dre and 40 as a good match anyway, it seems like dre is a homebody, quite, businessman, legend in hip hop period.

E-40 is an OG for sure, but he's in a different tier of the legends of hip hop. if ur fuckin wit dre, u better be related somehow or a new young talent.

just doesnt seem like a right match. thats like saying, "man, why isnt messy marv doin a track with snoop! mess is a legend!
 
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E-40 aside, how can yall honestly sit here and say that you see nothing wrong with Dre turning his back on the coast that he helped build? Where's his pride in where he's from? I know he a businessman, and money comes first...but no matter how much money I'm getting, I would never turn my back on where I'm from.
I'm sure Dre's intention was not to "build a coast" and carry it on his back. I have BLOOD and CLOSE FRIENDS that want to rap, and I don't fuck with 'em. You can call it turning ones back on folks, but I call it being a smart businessman. Not forgetting where you're from and knowing your business are two totally different things. Dre knows where he's from, and he knows who will do well with his guidance and who won't. I could NEVER hear E-40 over a Dre record....or a Mike Elizondo beat...or whoever.
 
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Why didnt Dre ever contacted E-40? Maybe Dre doesnt like E-40, lol. Fuck Dre anyway, dudes not that tight nowadays, there are better producers on the westcoast anyway, more importantly better producers for E-40. And what difference does it make how many 40 sold in LA? Like Dre's watching the sounds scan like "Once 40 hits 60,000 give him a call, but not till then" lol
Dre isn't that tight? Every time he drops a record, the sound of rap music changes.
 
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jeezy and luda put out albums on small labels before they got big...weezy had mannie as a in house producer so he didn't have to have a big producer to blow him up

and you expectin dre to give some random internet rapper a beat to see if they shit will get radio spins? it don't work like that bruh bruh...
And you think the little ass albums that Jeezy and Luda put out got them on? Fuck naw ma nigga the connections that they had got them on. I don't see how this is an argument. They didn't get big off them little albums on them little lables...Bigger cats put them on.

"and you expectin dre to give some random internet rapper a beat to see if they shit will get radio spins? it don't work like that bruh bruh.."

^When did I say anything about this? I havn't said one think about Dre given a random internet rapper a beat. Please stop twisting my words ma nigga just to fit yo argument.
 

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Dre is the best thing that ever happened to the west coast period. Im 100% bay area, but if u say LA didnt put cali on the map, your either 13 years old, or fucking retarded.

I was bumpin 11/5 ,RBL posse when i was that age, but at the same time i was bangin dre and snoop, those fools names are carved in stone in hip hop.

e-40 is our legends, just like UGK is houstons legends, every area has its homtown hero. but dre changed the world with his music.
 
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Three people in twenty years...Not bad.
It's been more than that. If it wasn't for Dre, there would be no Snoop, Game, Dogg Pound, Warren G, Nate Dogg, no Death Row as it was at it's peak (which means no 9 Million copies of All Eyez On Me). The Scott Storch that we know for making hits probably wouldn't have been a heavy hitter, which means all those Scott Storch hits wouldn't exist. XZibit may not have become as big as he is. There would be no Eminem, no 50 (because he got dropped from his label after being shot), which means no platinum selling G-Unit or D-12.

Dr. Dre has done more for the rap game than people give him credit for. Fuck the coast, this music is about worldwide shit.
 

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i dont understand how people sayin they wouldnt go good 2gether like they each only hav 1 style or sound they fit in. thats dumb, they both adapt & remain relevant for 20 to 25 years so im pretty sure they could put they noggins 2gether & make a jam.
 
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And you think the little ass albums that Jeezy and Luda put out got them on? Fuck naw ma nigga the connections that they had got them on. I don't see how this is an argument. They didn't get big off them little albums on them little lables...Bigger cats put them on.

"and you expectin dre to give some random internet rapper a beat to see if they shit will get radio spins? it don't work like that bruh bruh.."

^When did I say anything about this? I havn't said one think about Dre given a random internet rapper a beat. Please stop twisting my words ma nigga just to fit yo argument.
YOU GOTTA START FROM SOMEWHERE NIGGA...if you ain't got nothin to show that yo shit can sell you ain't gettin signed by major labels point blank period...ain't no fuckin label sign jeezy or luda because they had connections...they signed them because they saw the potential in them from the albums they put out on indie...you take a young rapper that can sell thousands of units on they own and can get spins on the radio wit lil promotion and you mold him into a star...how you think houston blew up a couple of years ago? cuz all them niggas was on they grind sellin hella cd's independent

"You keep talking about spins on the radio, well don't you think it would be a whole lot eaiser for a Westcoast nigga to get play if they had Dre's backing?"

dre ain't givin a non established westcoast nigga a beat to see if he can get spins on the radio...you better already be established so he can be insure that he gettin broke off