Interesting. Thats exactly how I feel when watching most MMA fights (and I've been watching UFC for 10+ years now!). Most of the time the fights end up on the ground, where they wrestle or hug eachother for long periods of time. It's really not that exciting, imo.
I understand there is skill involved in what their doing and it can be very technical. Still, it's boring to me as a spectator. Watching Shamrock vs. Gracie locked on the ground for 30 minutes back in the day was as boring as watching paint dry. Even with the new rules and 5 minute rounds which apply today, often times its just a shortened version of that.
The most exciting shit about MMA is the KO's which can be awesome to watch but overall the fights lack entertainment (See chuck Liddels last fight as an example). I'd much rather watch a 'Best of MMA Knockouts' on DVD or highlight clips then entire matches.
Again, this is all personal preference so everything above is my personal opinion.
Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy a good MMA slug out. But usually I really only enjoy two strikers standing up which is basically boxing, or kick boxing.
I understand there is skill involved in what their doing and it can be very technical. Still, it's boring to me as a spectator. Watching Shamrock vs. Gracie locked on the ground for 30 minutes back in the day was as boring as watching paint dry. Even with the new rules and 5 minute rounds which apply today, often times its just a shortened version of that.
The most exciting shit about MMA is the KO's which can be awesome to watch but overall the fights lack entertainment (See chuck Liddels last fight as an example). I'd much rather watch a 'Best of MMA Knockouts' on DVD or highlight clips then entire matches.
Again, this is all personal preference so everything above is my personal opinion.
Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy a good MMA slug out. But usually I really only enjoy two strikers standing up which is basically boxing, or kick boxing.
Boxing used to be the shit to me. But it's fallen off hard. They need smaller gloves and a smaller ring. The Floyd Mayweather types have ruined it... The running around is the most boring style of fighting ever.. Sissy ass punches and never seems to have a knockout when you have two good fighters in there.
MMA has really grown on me over the years.. I started watching with UFC 1 on my old cheater box, and i faded away from it for a long time after the first few of them.. But a few years ago I started really getting into it.
The thing that bothers me with boxing in the lighter weightclasses, is that you'll see two guys take constant punches to the face and nothing happens. I don't know, it's just frustrating me lately..
Boxing also has too many weight classes and two many champions. It's near impossible to keep up with. Good fights also seem few and far between, and free fights with fighters you care about never seem to happen... Besides on like HBO.. Which, I have, but for some reason I don't consider free..
MMA has really grown on me over the years.. I started watching with UFC 1 on my old cheater box, and i faded away from it for a long time after the first few of them.. But a few years ago I started really getting into it.
The thing that bothers me with boxing in the lighter weightclasses, is that you'll see two guys take constant punches to the face and nothing happens. I don't know, it's just frustrating me lately..
Boxing also has too many weight classes and two many champions. It's near impossible to keep up with. Good fights also seem few and far between, and free fights with fighters you care about never seem to happen... Besides on like HBO.. Which, I have, but for some reason I don't consider free..
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I agree with some of that, like how some boxers now that they got the skill and the got the mouth to talk it up, but when it comes down to fight time, they give half ass preformances. THATS for some fighters. I dont like watchin pay perview events alot unless the fight card looks good, most of the time I watch ESPN's Fight Nights, which seem to have more action. These are the guys that actaully fight. Theyre the ones looking to KO the other fighter, instead of just winning rounds. Its kind of like college football if u think about it, theres no salary's for those players, theyre just playing their hearts out trying to make it to the big show, boxing is the same (minus the salary part)
The thing that MMA is killing boxing in right now is just the quality of the fights. In MMA, the best fighters are constantly fighting the best fighters. In boxing, promoters try and protect their fighters from getting any blemishes on their records or reputations that could possibly put a damper on their paydays...so you end up getting lackluster matchups and frankly a lot of boring fights.
This is the one area where I think boxing really needs to concentrate on, because 5 big fights a year is just not going to be able to compete with MMA...UFC in particular...who has a PPV event just about every month, with a whole card worth of great fights.
@Robby..
I understand what you're saying about people 'running' around in the ring, and that there is definitely a lack of excitement...but remember...the object in boxing is to hit, and not be hit. And you don't do that by standing flatfooted in front of your opponent.
This is the one area where I think boxing really needs to concentrate on, because 5 big fights a year is just not going to be able to compete with MMA...UFC in particular...who has a PPV event just about every month, with a whole card worth of great fights.
@Robby..
I understand what you're saying about people 'running' around in the ring, and that there is definitely a lack of excitement...but remember...the object in boxing is to hit, and not be hit. And you don't do that by standing flatfooted in front of your opponent.
I know that, but it just seems like sometimes it becomes terrible. I was watching a fight the other week.. Some fighter from Lansing, forgot his name, was taller than his opponent kept hitting jabs, and would literally backpedal and flat out turn around and get away from his opponent after he hit the jabs.
It was on HBO on that three fight card like two or three weeks back. He won the fight because he wasn't getting hit and his opponent didn't have a clue about how to cut off the ring.
But they need smaller gloves for sure in smaller weight classes.. I'm really sick of watching people getting punched in the face over and over again and nobody going down.
It was on HBO on that three fight card like two or three weeks back. He won the fight because he wasn't getting hit and his opponent didn't have a clue about how to cut off the ring.
But they need smaller gloves for sure in smaller weight classes.. I'm really sick of watching people getting punched in the face over and over again and nobody going down.
^^Well you're watching the wrong fights. It's like wanting to see a knockout between two grappling gurus in an MMA fight. Not going to happen.
Just like in MMA, there are different types of fighters in boxing. You got the fast, elusive, defensive fighters like Mayweather or Jermaine Taylor, then you got Knockout artists like a Wladimir Klitschko or someone (who btw is fighting Brewster this weekend which is guaranteed to end in KO)
Just like in MMA, there are different types of fighters in boxing. You got the fast, elusive, defensive fighters like Mayweather or Jermaine Taylor, then you got Knockout artists like a Wladimir Klitschko or someone (who btw is fighting Brewster this weekend which is guaranteed to end in KO)
Yeah, I'll watch that fight. I just hope Klitchko doesn't pass out again, even though that was a long time ago.
I'm not against big slugfests with the lower classes.. They are exciting, but I dunno, I've just gotten kinda tired of boxing.. I think it probably is because everybody is protecting there fighters, and not many good fights are happening.
Hatton should've definitely fought somebody tougher than Castillo for his last fight.
I'm not against big slugfests with the lower classes.. They are exciting, but I dunno, I've just gotten kinda tired of boxing.. I think it probably is because everybody is protecting there fighters, and not many good fights are happening.
Hatton should've definitely fought somebody tougher than Castillo for his last fight.
I think Klitschko is much better than before, but we'll see. Either way the fight will end in a KO thats for sure.
I understand where your coming from, boxing the sport has its major flaws.
But again it really depends on the fighter. Manny Pacquaio for example will fight anyone, and I've yet to see a boring Pacman fight. Diego Corrales was the same way - you knew with Diego, win or lose, he would make the fight entertaining and he only wanted to fight the best possible opponents.
Plus it may be a matter of simply not following the sport as well as you once did because in my opinion, there are lots of great fights coming up, such as:
Klitschko vs. Brewster
Arturo Gatti vs Gomez
Antonio Margarito vs Paul Williams
Roy Jones Jr. vs Hanshaw
Bernard Hopkins vs Winky Wright
Pacquaio vs Berrara
Kessler vs Calzaghe
Pavlik vs Taylor
I don't know about that. Castillo is a solid fighter. He may be towards the end of his career and past his prime now, but there was really no way to say that prior to the fight. Really that fight made Hatton. Hatton was coming off two poor performances against mediocre fighters. Castillo was a huge test for him. Now he is considered a big name in boxing and will have a shot at possibly Mayweather or Paulie Malignaggi or another big name.
But really my argument, or point of view really, is just about entertainment value when comparing the two sports (the actual fights). Now if you want to compare how the two sports are run, thats a different story. The sport of boxing is hella fucked up and really needs to pay attention to the UFC and take notes. Really imo PPV is what hurt boxing the most. Now, almost all the good fighters only do PPV matches. There needs to be mandatory Title fights on prime time TV every so often or something like that to draw people back into the sport. They need to have big fights on ABC like back in the day. Now days because of PPV, most people never heard of most of the champions. I think if the sanctioning bodies made every so many title fights non-PPV and made deals with ABC or some shit it would revive the sport tremendously. They already impose mandatory fights, so why would it be so hard to have mandatory title fights on prime time tv? Plus, theres too many sanctioning bodies (WBA, WBO, IBF, WBC). That's fucking gay, no one wants there to be four heavyweight champions of the world! Fuck that, there can only be one.
I understand where your coming from, boxing the sport has its major flaws.
But again it really depends on the fighter. Manny Pacquaio for example will fight anyone, and I've yet to see a boring Pacman fight. Diego Corrales was the same way - you knew with Diego, win or lose, he would make the fight entertaining and he only wanted to fight the best possible opponents.
Plus it may be a matter of simply not following the sport as well as you once did because in my opinion, there are lots of great fights coming up, such as:
Klitschko vs. Brewster
Arturo Gatti vs Gomez
Antonio Margarito vs Paul Williams
Roy Jones Jr. vs Hanshaw
Bernard Hopkins vs Winky Wright
Pacquaio vs Berrara
Kessler vs Calzaghe
Pavlik vs Taylor
I don't know about that. Castillo is a solid fighter. He may be towards the end of his career and past his prime now, but there was really no way to say that prior to the fight. Really that fight made Hatton. Hatton was coming off two poor performances against mediocre fighters. Castillo was a huge test for him. Now he is considered a big name in boxing and will have a shot at possibly Mayweather or Paulie Malignaggi or another big name.
But really my argument, or point of view really, is just about entertainment value when comparing the two sports (the actual fights). Now if you want to compare how the two sports are run, thats a different story. The sport of boxing is hella fucked up and really needs to pay attention to the UFC and take notes. Really imo PPV is what hurt boxing the most. Now, almost all the good fighters only do PPV matches. There needs to be mandatory Title fights on prime time TV every so often or something like that to draw people back into the sport. They need to have big fights on ABC like back in the day. Now days because of PPV, most people never heard of most of the champions. I think if the sanctioning bodies made every so many title fights non-PPV and made deals with ABC or some shit it would revive the sport tremendously. They already impose mandatory fights, so why would it be so hard to have mandatory title fights on prime time tv? Plus, theres too many sanctioning bodies (WBA, WBO, IBF, WBC). That's fucking gay, no one wants there to be four heavyweight champions of the world! Fuck that, there can only be one.
I agree with everything here and I'd like to add another fucked up aspect on having so many sanctioning bodies. When someone wins a title and becomes a belt holder or "champion" for one organization, the other rival sanctioning bodies will remove that fighter completely from their own rankings. In turn, this discourages unifications with the other belt holders and forces the promoters/fighters to come to terms if they want to unify. If the sanctioning bodies would actually keep the other belt holders in their rankings and force mandatory unifications, there would frequently be more competitive fights being made and we'd have more undisputed unified champs out there. I understand that it could be complicated to accomplish this and the sanctioning bodies would have to set up some rules/guidelines, etc. but I believe it could be done.
