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You know damn well GGG is not fight Quillin. GGG is a HBO he is not fighting a Golden boy fighter. HBO should be making Martinez vs. GGG. GGG can go to 168lb if no one wants to fight him at 160lb. Ward, Froch is waiting for him, dude has been at 160lb for 7 years already. Make up or keep whining about NO one wanting to fight you.
I was saying Martin Murray might end up fighting Quillin, chump.

Ward isn't interested in fighting GGG anytime soon either is Froch. Sergio Martinez will fight his mandatory next in Rubio.
 
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dookie1 @dookie1 now name one fighter that is willing to fight GGG between 154-168? Remind you, he doesn't have an exclusive contract with HBO, he just prefers air his fights with them cuz he's loyal to them and they pay more than broke ass Showtime does.
 
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I think ggg will get his ass beat if he moves up to 168 cuz of his reach and height disadvantages...hes good at 160 or fight a 154 fighter at a catchweight...ggg vs rubio, martinez, kirkland or that guy that just beat vanes


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To me looked like he lacked confidence. Also I guess he said before the fight his mind still isn't 100% in boxing. Rigondeaux did a number on him mentally, that loss got in his head making him question himself and his abilities, imo.

He'll need to get his shit together quick or he's gonna take some L's.
agreed donaire looked like his heart is just not into fighting
 
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Golovkin won’t be fighting Martin Murray in February
November 11th, 2013 | Post Comment - 21 Comments
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Martin Murray gennady golovkin By Scott Gilfoid: Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions shot down the idea of WBA interim middleweight champion Martin Murray (25-1-1, 11 KO’s) fighting WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (28-0, 25 KO’s) on February 1st at the Salle des etoiles, Monte Carlo, Monaco. It’s not going to happen. Loeffler already offered the Golovkin fight to Murray in the past but he turned it down.

Loeffler says they want guys like Sergio Martinez or Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. for Golovkin, although neither of those guys are going to be available to fight Golovkin for his next fight in February.

Loeffler said to RingTV “Murray had turned down a previous shot for him to fight Gennady in Canada…We would like a unification fight with Martinez, or a fight with Julio Cesar Chavez…until we can get one of them in the ring with him, we’re going to keep Gennady active.”

I don’t thinks we’ll see Murray fighting Golovkin anytime soon, if all. I just don’t think Murray fancies the fight because if he did he likely would have said yes to it already. It’s not a good match-up for Murray anyway because he lacks the speed and power to compete with a slugger like Golovkin. At least Golovkin’s last opponent Curtis Stevens had something going for him in terms of power, which is why he was able to last 8 rounds against Golovkin earlier this month. Murray doesn’t have the power to keep Goovkin honest, so I would suspect that Golovkin would do him in 2-3 rounds tops. It would be a terrible mismatch.

What Loeffler means by saying he’ll be keeping Golovkin active is that he’ll be putting him in with whoever he can get in terms of the best contenders available that are willing to step it up and face him in the ring. It’s not going to be easy to get a guy to step up and face him in the first place because he’s so dangerous. Few fighters want to face Golovkin right now because he’s fighting at a high level, so it’s going to take good money from HBO to lure a high quality opponent for Golovkin to fight in February. Right now it’s unclear whether HBO will be televising Golovkin’s February fight. It’s not convenient that he’s fighting in Monaco rather than the U.S. It would be better if they were to stage the fight in Las Vegas or New York, but for some reason Golovkin’s promoters want to have him fighting in Monaco again.

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Arum wants Nonito Donaire vs. Nicholas Walters next
November 11th, 2013 | Post Comment - 17 Comments
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Nicholas Walters Donaire Walters Donaire vs. Walters nonito donaire By Chris Williams: While Nonito Donaire (32-2, 21 KO’s) may have been talking last Saturday night after his win over Vic Darchinyan about wanting to avenge his loss to Cuban WBA/WBO super bantamweight champion Guillermo Rigondeaux next, Donaire’s promoter Bob Arum is reportedly targeting WBA featherweight title holder Nicholas Walkers (23-0, 19 KO’s) for Donaire’s next fight instead of Rigondeaux.

Arum told RingTV “Walters punches like a mule. He’s not technically great, but geez, is he strong. That fight [Donaire vs. Walkers] would be a great fight. It would be bombs away. We’ll have to talk to Donaire to see when he’s ready to fight again. Walkers ready to go as soon as possible, so we’ll figure it out.”

It sounds like Arum has his mind made up that he wants to match Donaire against Walkers. That doesn’t sound like there’s going to be any real decision making between him and Donaire about the Donaire fight other than when will Donaire be ready. I’m kind of not surprised that Arum is matching Donaire against Walters because I never thought for a second that Arum would put Donaire back in with Rigondeaux in this lifetime.

I don’t know why Donaire even bothered to mention Rigondeaux’s name last Saturday when he was interviewed by HBO’s Max Kellerman following Donaire’s 9th round stoppage win over 37-year-old past his prime Vic Darchinyan. All I can think of as to why Donaire mentioned Rigondeaux was to name drop to impress his fans. It’s too bad that boxing fans won’t likely get a chance to see Donaire face Rigondeaux again because it would have been interesting to see if Donaire could have avenged the defeat or not.

You have to wonder why Arum isn’t putting Donaire back in with Rigondeaux or trying to match him against the winner of the Salido-Lomachenko fight. What does that mean that Arum is steering Donaire towards an arguably easier opponent in Walters?

Walkers, 27, is considered by some to be the 8th or 9th best featherweight in the division despite the fact that he holds down the WBA belt. In other words, Walkers is a title holder but not close to being one of the top 5 guys at featherweight. There had been talk that Donaire wanted to fight the winner of the Orlando Salido vs. Vasyl Lomachenko fight, but it looks like Arum has other ideas. It’s probably good idea that Arum not put Donaire in with the Salido-Lomachenko winner or back in with Rigondeaux, because all three of those fighters would figure to be far too talented or strong for Donaire.

If Donaire picks up the WBA featherweight title by beating Walters, he would be more or less taking the easy path to a featherweight title rather than the grueling path of trying to beat the likes of Jhonny Gonzalez, Salido, Lomachenko or Evegeny Gradovich.

Walters stopped Alberto Garza in the 4th round last Saturday night on the same card as Donaire-Darchinyan. Walters doesn’t look as powerful as Darchinyan, and he looks badly flawed. He has an unbeaten record but he’s not fought anyone that you could call a good fighter. Walters picked up the vacant WBA title last December in defeating Daulis Prescott by a 7th round stoppage.

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agree what happened to him? his timing is off and he was getting hit with shots he shouldn't be getting hit with... rigo spanks him again.
Nothing happened to Donaire. It's easy to look great against bums. There was a reason Donaire ducked out of the 118lb tournament on Showtime. He would have had to fight some real fighters. Donaire is and always was overrated by HBO. No hate it's just the truth dude is overrated. If he can't land that left hook dude is lost in the ring.
 
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Nothing happened to Donaire. It's easy to look great against bums. There was a reason Donaire ducked out of the 118lb tournament on Showtime. He would have had to fight some real fighters. Donaire is and always was overrated by HBO. No hate it's just the truth dude is overrated. If he can't land that left hook dude is lost in the ring.
Donaire didn't fight in that four man tourny because he made triple the amount of money fighting the #1 guy in Montiel. Plus of course the top rank golden boy thing.
 
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ABEL SANCHEZ: "YOU SAW GENNADY FUNCTIONING ON ALL CYLINDERS...WE ARE TARGETING ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED"
By Percy Crawford | November 11, 2013

"At the beginning of the fight, you saw Gennady functioning on all cylinders trying to be collective of what he was doing...We are targeting anybody that's interested. Of course Peter Quillin because he is a champion and we would like to unify. Darren Barker, whose promoter already said he would not put him in the ring with Golovkin. Martinez is on the shelf and talking about moving down to 54. But all of those guys are targets," stated world-class trainer Abel Sanchez, who talked about Gennady Golovkin's recent victory over Curtis Stevens, their future plans, and much more. Check it out!

PC: Obviously you have to be happy about the performance that Gennady Golovkin put on against Curtis Stevens. What are your thoughts?

AS: I thought he fought well. I thought that after the knockdown in the 2nd round, Curtis went into somewhat of a shell, so it was difficult to get to him. Gennady was patient and he wore him down and Andre [Rozier] and his corner did the right thing in stopping it. Curtis is a helluva fighter; he just went up against somebody that was a little better that night. He will still beat a lot of middleweights.

PC: Gauging his reaction when he was knocked down, I was very surprised he was able to get up and continue for so long.

AS: Andre did an extraordinary job of getting him prepared for this fight. If he wasn't in the kind of shape that Andre got him in, there is no way he could have gotten up and continued. I gotta commend Andre for having him ready.

PC: You had Gennady ready as always and he really did some good work, both upstairs and downstairs. Was the game plan to chop down the body early?

AS: Yeah, it was kind of the plan, but you never know what's going to happen once somebody gets hurt like Curtis did. When he got hurt, he went into a shell and at that point, it's kind of finding a spot because Curtis is such a compact fighter, hands is up high around his head, and he is a short fighter, so it's difficult to get to him. But fortunately, every round we wore him down and luckily we were able to stop him.

PC: It never appeared that Gennady came out of cruise control during the course of the fight. Have we not even seen the best of Golovkin yet?

AS: I would say at the beginning of the fight, you saw Gennady functioning on all cylinders trying to be collective of what he was doing, but once he knocked him down, it was more or less cruise control, you're right, but Curtis wasn't...for all of this talk that was talked about before the fight, Curtis was a serious opponent and we didn't take him lightly. We were going to prepare because we knew we had a formidable opponent in front of us. But after the knockdown, I think we went back to practicing some of the things we do in the gym.

PC: When you have an athlete like Golovkin, who is a talented fighter but also a hard worker in the gym, how easy does it make your job to not have to drag him into the gym or get him motivated?

AS: Ah, it's quite easy. We coaches can only do so much. We don't get the contribution from the athlete, it's impossible for us to do miracles. Luckily, I'm in charge of a guy who wants to train as hard as anybody else in the gym, that's always on time, and never complains or questions anything. So it definitely makes our job easier. It takes the athlete to be that way for us to look good.

PC: When you have a guy like Golovkin that can punch and he's getting guys out of there, it's tough to find fights for them. Do you think the top guys will avoid him or do you think if he continues to steamroll guys, it will force the top guys' hand?

AS: You know, a year or so ago, we sat down with his managers and promoter, Tom Leoffler, and Gennady was there and we discussed all of that and we knew it would be difficult to get guys in the ring. The important thing is to stay busy. If we stay busy like we did this year and like we plan on doing in 2014, things are gonna happen. They have to happen. Eventually, people will step up because they are gonna have to. News captions and internet sites will shame them into taking the fight. As long as we stay busy, keep winning and looking impressive, I think all of those fights will come.

PC: Is he settled in a the middleweight division or is he willing to go up or down for some of those big fights?

AS: We talked about that in the past as well and he is willing to go down to 54 and up to 68, but I think that we have a lot of unfinished business at 160. There are a lot of guys that are talking like they want to fight us and if they do, then hopefully they can get done. But once they refuse to fight us, then the move will be either up or down.

PC: Obviously the Peter Quillin's and Sergio Martinez's are at the top of the list of guys you would like to fight. Do you have a preference?

AS: We are targeting anybody that's interested. Of course Peter Quillin because he is a champion and we would like to unify. Darren Barker, whose promoter already said he would not put him in the ring with Golovkin. Martinez is on the shelf and talking about moving down to 54. But all of those guys are targets. As far as Peter is concerned, Peter seems to think that there is a wall between us because of Showtime and HBO and that he can't fight Gennady because he is an HBO fighter and he is a Showtime fighter. Well, unfortunately for Peter, the only time that that wall gets put up is when Golovkin's name is mentioned. As soon as he beat Rosado in his last fight, the first name that he called out was another HBO fighter named Martinez. So with Peter, the only time that the HBO versus Showtime barrier exists is when Golovkin's name gets mentioned. But we would love that fight.

PC: How long will you give Gennady off from the gym before you bring him back in?

AS: He's going to be fighting on February 1st, so he will be back in camp on December 1st.

PC: Being that you have been around the boxing game for so long, would you say the biggest difference between now and back in your early days in the sport is the inability to make the best fight the best?

AS: That is the biggest difference. I think now champions are so protected. A zero on your record now is so important and it is a death sentence today in these times. In the past, when Hagler and Leonard and Benitez and those guys were fighting, they fought each other. They lost and they fought each other and all of the greats make themselves great. Today, it's unfortunate that they are so protected and we don't see those marquee fights anymore like we did back then. That's why it was so important for Gennady and his people to understand when they came to the United States that we have to take all of those fights to make him that star that we thought he could be. He has to fight anybody and everybody that comes to the plate.
 
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FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR. AND RUBEN GUERRERO WORKING TOGETHER ON REALITY SERIES?
By Percy Crawford | November 11, 2013

"They want to do a show with a lot of trainers, like Yoel [Judah], Zab Judah's father, and Ruben Guerrero, who is Robert Guerrero's father," stated world-class trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr., who revealed to FightHype.com that he would be working alongside former rival and fellow trainer Ruben Guerrero on a new boxing-based reality series. Earlier this year, both trainers engaged in a war of words and nearly came to blows on one occassion leading up to the May encounter between their sons, undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather and multi-division champion Robert Guerrero. According to Mayweather Sr., however, their feud ended shortly after Mayweather defeated Guerrero, and now both men will be sharing a gym together as they work on the reality series.

"We kind of patched it up after the fight. I wasn't gonna be out there acting a fool with that man. That's why I have no problem with him coming on. He told the guy, 'Mayweather gonna be mad with me.' Come on, man. I ain't dealing with that man. I ain't got time for that shit, man," Mayweather Sr. explained during a recent conversation with FightHype.com. "He can come on. So he will probably be another one that's on the show, with Zab Judah's father and a couple of other trainers on there too. We gonna all pick the 3 fighters we want and train them and I will pick my fighters myself and we will go from there."
 
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B @bigface You know damn well who GGG is calling out when he says 154-168. But for now, he really wants a crack at Martinez and Quillin. All these champs talk about "everyone wants to fight me!" GGG is the only champ that be calling muthafuckas out man and no one wants to face him. He has a reason to stay at 160 tho cuz when the time comes to fight a 154 lber he can and when he's ready to move up or its time to do so he'll do that too.
 
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FLOYD MAYWEATHER: "I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO 2014 BEING ANOTHER EXCITING YEAR FOR ME"
By Press Release | November 12, 2013

Ten-Time World Champion Floyd "Money" Mayweather can add another honor to his growing list of accolades as the World Boxing Council (WBC) has named him WBC Supreme Champion. Representatives from the 165 countries that form the WBC unanimously voted to bestow Mayweather with this unique award following his many years as a WBC Champion complemented by his 2013 back-to-back wins against former WBC welterweight champion Robert Guerrero and former WBC Super Welterweight World Champion Canelo Alvarez.

"I am honored that the WBC has named me Supreme Champion," said Mayweahter. "It's a blessing to have won several WBC titles throughout my career. Being recognized by the boxing community means a lot, so I want to thank the WBC and its members who voted for me."

It's been a busy and productive year of ring successes and honors for Mayweather. In addition to being named WBC Supreme Champion, Mayweather was awarded the 2013 ESPN for Best Fighter and Fighter of the Year by the Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame.

He also set and broke several records. In February, he entered into a groundbreaking pay-per-view deal with Showtime Networks Inc. and its parent company CBS Corporation to comprehensively promote six fights over 30 months. Most recently, his September 14 fight against Canelo Alvarez set the record as the highest-grossing pay-per-view of all time with more than $150 million in U.S. revenue alone, surpassing the previous record of $136 million generated by Mayweather vs. Oscar De La Hoya in 2007.

"2013 has been a big year for The Money Team," Mayweather continued. "It feels good to be where I currently am in my career. I am looking forward to 2014 being another exciting year for me. I appreciate the recognition and all of the support my fans shown me over the years."

The WBC will hold a special event in Las Vegas to formally give Mayweather his award in the near future.
 
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B @bigface You know damn well who GGG is calling out when he says 154-168. But for now, he really wants a crack at Martinez and Quillin. All these champs talk about "everyone wants to fight me!" GGG is the only champ that be calling muthafuckas out man and no one wants to face him. He has a reason to stay at 160 tho cuz when the time comes to fight a 154 lber he can and when he's ready to move up or its time to do so he'll do that too.
Bah bah bah GGG is so avoided Quillin called him out already but HBO vs Showtime. Move his ass up to 168lb Ward will fight him with no problem they both on HBO. But we all know that won't happen because HBO won't be able to sell him after the beat down. Just like HBO will not push Donaire to fight Rigo again. Lol.. 7 years at 160lb and u fought like 3 top 10 fighters what a joke. You have no problem with a 160lber fighting a 147lber , but it's nothing but excuses when you ask Mr. Avoided to move up to 168lb.
 
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They would if it makes sense though. Ward has Rodriguez, Froch has Groves and all signs point to a kessler trilogy aftet that. So there's no one worth going to 168 for atm. Only guy is Chavez jr but he's fighting Vera rematch who knows after that.
It makes perfect PPV sense to me. I would buy the PPV. Let's see if Mr. Avoided GGG really has skills and the heart to move up 8lb to fight the number 2 P4P guy. Lol.. He's been at 160lb for 7 years time move up and make a fight that matches the hype.

I will let the double standards and the excuses roll in..