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Roy Jones Jr. needs to retire
June 20th, 2012

By Chris Beale: Roy Jones Jr. was once one of the greatest fighters in the world. He defeated people at many different weight classes and had a style that was unique to boxing. He could gloat in and out of the ring and no one could argue with the fact he was one of the best pound for pound fighters of his generation.

Jones Jr. was the first fighter in over a hundred years to go from middleweight champion to Heavyweight champion (winning the WBA title against John Ruiz), yet on his return to Light Heavyweight, he seemed to lose his reflexes and skills. He began a trilogy of fights with Antonio Tarver and despite winning the first fight, he lost the latter two with another loss to Glen Johnson in between.

Now while he did return to winning ways, he has since lost many times and while losing a few times is not a big deal to some boxers, it should be a sign for others that they need to retire in my view. Jones was amazing in his prime. He schooled a prime James Toney and many others but he needs to retire now if he wants to maintain his legacy.

Before the Tarver fight, Jones Jr. seemed like a dead certainty for the Boxing Hall of Fame. Now he seems like an old no longer skilled boxer desperate to regain his former glory. The people he is losing to are not apex predators in their division; they are 2nd and 3rd tier fighters, most of whom see Jones Jr. as a good name for the CV (resume). He is in serious danger of losing respect of boxing fans and the powers that be in boxing and risking his place as one of the greatest boxers who ever lived.

The fact is Jones would not last long against any of the World champions in that division. It’s not that they are great; it’s just that he no longer is skilled enough. A prime Jones would make mince meat of majority of the fighters from light-heavyweight to heavyweight, and maybe even the middleweight divisions too (I’d love to see an Andre Ward vs. a prime Jones Jr fight. Two very fast fighters against each other. I think Jones would win though.

Jones needs to retire he could easily make a living as a commentator or maybe even help train boxers and reinvent himself in the sport. Nobody wants to see a legend fall last as long as his has and he deserves better.
 
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WBO Judges Re-score Pacquiao-Bradley Fight: all 5 officials score the bout big for Pac-Man

By James Slater - As a result of all the uproar, anger and controversy the recent official scoring of the Tim Bradley v Manny Pacquiao fight caused, the WBO, for which version of the welterweight title the June 9th bout contested, has had five judges re-score the fight.

The five officials, from all over the world, sat down and viewed a video of the fight earlier this week. Not surprisingly, considering the fact that most fans and experts had Pacquiao winning big over the unbeaten Bradley, all 5 WBO judges re-scored the fight for Pac-Man - and they scored it big for Manny..

The first judge had it 115-111, the second had it 116-112, the third 117-111, the fourth 118-110 and the fifth and final judge had it 117-111 for the Filipino superstar.

That's about as comprehensive as you can get, and the new scores are bound to convince the critics further that either incompetence or something darker was at work on June 9th.

Despite these new scores, the WBO will not be able to either overturn the official result or give Pacquiao back his welterweight title.

Only a rematch fought in the ring can bring Pac-Man's belt back. But will we see one?
 
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32 YEARS SINCE ROBERTO DURAN BEAT RAY LEONARD

June 20th, 2012 By Pedro Fernandez

GREATEST FIGHT OF THE DECADE

Duran Attacking Leonard

San Francisco, CA- They called it, “The Brawl In Montreal,” Roberto Duran, ex-lightweight (135 lbs) king taking on boxing’s glamor boy “Sugar Ray” Leonard on June 20, 1980. In the three decades and two years that have passed since, I can’t remember a more captivating evening of watching professional boxing. Duran, who turned 61 on June 16, in the “prime” of his career was a man that would not be denied that cold night in Montreal, the site of the 1976 Olympics where Ray Leonard became the darling of boxing.

GREATEST FIGHT OF THE DECADE?

I had seen most of the major fights in the 1980s sitting ringside, but for this event we were at the Cow Palace in Daly City, CA watching Duran school Leonard on Closed Circuit TV. It was an epic event, Ray coming in the betting favorite and Duran rocking him in the second round with such force from a left hook thrown in combination, that Leonard’s brain trust, Mike Trainer, a Washington DC area attorney told me later. “At that point, I knew Ray wasn’t going to win. So I lit up a cigarette, sat back and hoped that he would not get hurt.” Of all the fights I saw in the decade, this is still the one that stands out for me!

LEONARD ATE RIGHT HAND LEADS LIKE CHEERIOS!

Duran, the shorter of the two, timed Leonard, something nobody had ever done before professionally. When Leonard would jab, Duran would would either counter or lead with bone-crunching right hands from the third round on. Leonard had a few moments, this when Duran lapsed into a state of relaxation because of his dominance. But each time Leonard would flurry, Duran would answer back with ferocity that Leonard thought going into the fight was all hype!

Duran Landing The Right Hand

DURAN WON 10-4-1 ON MY CARD

Hurting Leonard with those right hand leads throughout, Ray could never solve the puzzle as to how to avoid them. Never hurt, although Ray Leonard connected solidly on occasion, Duran smiled and sneered at Ray, not displaying one ounce of respect for the defending WBC welterweight (147) champion. Leonard had beaten Wilfred Benitez for the title in November 1979 in a fight that made Las Vegas’ premier boxing handicapper Herbie Lambeck hate referee Carlos Padilla for life! Herbie had gotten good odds on the fight going the full 15 rounds, thus dropping $20,000. When the referee waved the fight off with just a few seconds left, this with Benitez on his feet, Herb blew a cork he could never ever put back in the bottle.

LEONARD COMING OFF BEST ONE-PUNCH KO OF HIS LIFE!

In Ray’s lone defense before meeting the man with the “Hands of Stone,” Leonard threw a combination that was punctuated by a left hook that left “Davey Boy” Green looking like a corpse. Ray didn’t just knock Green out, he to use street vernacular, “knocked green the **** out.” It was a perfect ending to set up the Duran fight some three months later. Roberto’s claim to fame as a welterweight was beating the snot out of former champion Carlos Palomino in Madison Square Garden. Carlos was a good fighter, but Duran toyed with him, seemingly not trying to KO Carlos, just punish him.

DURAN GETS UNANIMOUS DECISION

Right after the bell sounded that ended the fight, a swollen Ray Leonard knew he had lost. Duran on the other hand was running around the ring jumping up in the air when he ran over to where promoter Bob Arum and Wilfred Benitez were sitting. He grabbed his crotch area and told them to suck his, you know. The next day, Roberto flew home to Panama in a private jet as thousands jammed the airport to see him. He started partying that night in Montreal and did not stop for nearly four months.

MIKE TRAINER GOT THE LAST LAUGH!

With Duran somewhere over 200 lbs., this Leonard’s guy Mike Trainer learned after sending a spy to Panama to verify the weighty rumors, Trainer offered Duran $8 million, eclipsing the $1.5 million he made beating Leonard in June. It was now late in September 1980 and Trainer told Duran’s people that if they wanted the $8 million, he had to fight Leonard on November 25th. With around seven weeks to train, Duran shed the weight but never really got in fighting shape. As a result of this, and Duran’s people not reading the contract Trainer had prepared, the ring side was at least 22 by 22 feet, some say 24 feet. It looked more like somebody’s backyard, not a boxing ring as Leonard danced and dazzled Duran for the most part.

DURAN HAD ENOUGH OF RAY’S CRAP AND WAVED OFF THE FIGHT!

Roberto was in condition to fight a lesser guy in a smaller ring. But when you combined Ray’s skills, his running and Duran’s lack of preparation, after seven rounds, Duran got off the stool for round eight. With Leonard doing his Carl Lewis imitation, in other words sprinting, Duran had enough of Ray’s clowning and waved for the referee to stop the fight in round eight, uttering the words that would haunt him for the rest of his career, “No Mas Box,” or “No More Boxing.”

THE CRAMP STORY WAS HOGWASH!

Duran would claim that he had eaten two steaks and that he had cramps, when the truth of the matter was Team Leonard had outsmarted the former Panamanian street urchin by getting him into a fight he was not physically or mentally prepared for. All Duran could see was the $8 million and knowing he had beaten Ray to a pulp the previous June, that the fight was going to be easy. Leonard got his revenge for the loss and Duran calling his then wife, Juanita Leonard, a “whore” before the fight.

RAY & DURAN WOULD FACE OFF ONCE MORE

In late 1989, after Duran had did the impossible and beat Iran Barkely for the WBC middleweight belt in February, Roberto again got fat. Leonard goaded him into a third fight for the grand opening of Steve Wynn’s Mirage Hotel. In an outdoor arena in December, with the temperature around 38′ come fight time, Leonard ran circles around Duran and beat him with ease. In the end, Duran had beaten the crap out of Leonard once, and Leonard humiliated by out running him twice. Today when they see one another, there is nothing but mutual respect. You know, I’m well aware that it’s been 32 years and yet it seems like it was yesterday!
 
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Big George Foreman Brought “Real Change” to the Sport of Boxing!
By Ken Hissner, Doghouse Boxing (June 20, 2012) Doghouse Boxing
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George Foreman

In a country that has grown more and more divided over the past several years with the promise of “change” the people in the White House could take a lesson of the “real change” that Big George Foreman went through on March 17, 1977. “A hero is someone right who doesn’t change,” said Foreman. On that day Foreman learned right from wrong from the almighty!

I once wrote for a website called “Fighters of Faith” and would get the questions “how could a fighter be a Christian and a fighter?” I would tell them “ever hear of David and Goliath?” They say God works in mysterious ways and the conversion in the attitude of Foreman was nothing short of miraculous!

Growing up in the streets of the Fifth Ward in Houston, TX, young George Foreman was one mean person who practiced his throwing by putting rocks through windows of abandoned factories for one thing. He joined the Job Corp hoping to use those hands for some good not bad. “I grew up in the Fifth Ward. The bloody fifth they called it. Every week-end someone got killed,” said Foreman.

Foreman even idolized Hall of Fame NFL star Jim Brown. Talk about a role model and someone with a chip on their shoulder. “When I was a kid growing up in Houston we were so poor we couldn’t afford the last 2 letters, so we called ourselves po’,” said Foreman.

On January 26, 1967, several weeks past his 18th birthday he won his first amateur bout by knockout in the Parks Diamond Belt Tournament. His first trainer was Nick “Doc” Broadus. His final record was 22-4. He won the 1968 Gold Medal in the Mexico City Olympics that September. When you think about it he went from a raw amateur to a world amateur champion in 20 months.

Foreman previously won the National AAU title in Toledo, OH, in March of 1968. In July he sparred 5 rounds with the then Heavyweight champion Sonny Liston on two different occasions. In September he defeated Otis Evans for the second time to make the US team. At the Olympics he defeat Lucjan Trela (Poland) 4-1, Ion Alexe (Romania) TKO 3, Girgio Bambini (Italy) KO2 and Ionas Chepulis (Soviet Union) TKO2 for the Gold medal. When he walked around the ring waving two small American flags while several other athletes were pushing “black power”, Foreman became an instant hero for the truly American people.

On the 1968 USA team 7 won medals with Foreman and Ronnie Harris the only Gold winners. I’ve done stories on 2, Armando Muniz and Sammy Goss. Art Redden and James Wallington are deceased. Of the 10 members there were 6 with the Armed Forces. Something you rarely see today.

Foreman turned professional stopping Brooklyn’s Don Waldheim, 5-4-2, in 3 rounds at Madison Square Garden in June of 1969 on the undercard of “Smokin” Joe Frazier and Jerry Quarry NYSAC title bout. Who knew 18 months later Foreman would meet Frazier in Jamaica for the WBC/WBA titles?

Defeating Chuck Wepner, 18-4-2, in his fourth fight was quite an accomplishment. Wepner had his 9 fight win streak stopped in his last fight by Joe Roman, a future title challenger of Foreman’s in 1973. In his eighth fight he went the distance of 8 rounds with Peru’s Roberto Davila in the main event in Madison Square Garden. Davila would be only 1 of 3 boxers in Foreman’s first 40 unbeaten fights not to be stopped by Foreman. In December in his twelfth fight Levi forte, 19-21-2, was down in the second round but somehow managed to go the distance of 10 rounds.

Foreman’s seventeenth fight was his first real test in meeting Argentina’s Gregorio Peralta, 77-5-8, at the Garden in February of 1970 under the Frazier-Jimmy Ellis card. The voting was scattered but Peralta gave Foreman a good fight losing 9-1, 7-3 and 5-4. Foreman would go on to score 24 straight knockouts after this fight including a tenth round stoppage of Peralta some 14 months later.

Included in Foreman’s knockout streak was George Chuvalo, 59-15-2, whom he stopped in 3 rounds. Boone Kirkman was 22-1 and on an 11 fight streak when he was stopped in 2 rounds. In his thirty-sixth fight he stopped the Argentine champion Miguel Angel Paez, 48-15-3, for something called the Pan American title. He was just 1 win away from fighting Frazier for the title.

On January 22, 1973 Foreman would travel to Kingston, Jamaica, to challenge Frazier for the WBC/WBA world titles. There were 23,000 in attendance with Howard Cosell announcing at ringside. People can still hear him saying “Frazier is down. Frazier is down!” Frazier hit the canvas 3 times in the first round and 3 times in the second round before referee Arthur Mercante finally stopped it at 2:26 of the round after a Foreman right uppercut actually lifted Frazier off the canvas and down. “I was scared to death of Joe Frazier before that fight,” said Foreman.

It would be 22 years before Foreman could successfully defend his title in the US. His first defense was in Tokyo, Japan, against Joe Roman, 43-7-1, of Puerto Rico. He had won 22 of his 23 previous fights but was no match for Foreman. All Roman could do is try to avoid Foreman’s punches by ducking under them when Foreman after a flurry of hits and misses finally hit him with a left hook and followed up accidently. Roman’s trainer jumped up on the apron of the ring begging for a disqualification knowing Roman had no other chance. Referee Jay Edson allowed it.

Foreman rushed over and dropped Roman with a right uppercut. When he got up he was a bent over target taking punches when another right uppercut put him down and out. Edson could have counted to 100. Foreman was still the heavyweight champion of the WBC/WBA. This was 8 months after stopping Frazier.

Next would be Ken Norton, 30-2, in Caracas, VZ, in March of 1974. Norton had a dispute with his legendary trainer Eddie Futch and would be without Futch in the corner. Norton came out moving like he was Ali but when your known to drag one foot behind the other he would never be able to stay away from Foreman this way. As muscular as Norton was he fought like he feared Foreman.

Norton decided to stand his ground and he paid for it as Foreman put him up against the ropes Norton moved to his left but got caught by 3 straight right uppercuts that knocked him into the ropes. As he bounced off the referee Jimmy Rondeau wisely gave him a count. Again Foreman rushed Norton and a right uppercut knocked him into the ropes and he took a second count.

Foreman charged him again and landed 3 out of 4 punches with the last putting Norton down for a third time. He tried pulling himself up but was in no condition to continue as his corner was running up the steps to stop it at 2:00 of the second round. Eddie Futch told me “Norton asked me to come back after that fight but I decided not to.” That was Norton’s loss, not Futch’s.

After winning his first 40 fights with 37 by knockout Foreman looked indestructible. They say the mind is 90% of boxing and 10% physical. When you meet Muhammad Ali you know you will not overcome him mentally. The closest was the first Liston fight but the confidence of that win never allowed Ali to fall short again with the “mind game”.

The people in Zaire, now the Congo, received Ali with a hero’s welcome and Foreman as “the villan”. The fight would be postponed when Foreman received a cut in sparring. They would not allow either fighter to leave the country. The fight finally took place in October of 1974 with Ali was 44-2 at the time. American referee Zach Clayton would also serve as a judge and had an association with Don King. Even during the instructions Clayton allowed Ali to chatter away at the menacing Foreman.

Without Ali’s trainer Angelo Dundee knowing it Ali made the “rope-a-dope” defense famous that night. Some say he got it from Philly’s “Gypsy” Joe Harris at the Pollock Mink Farm training site near Dear Lake, PA. In Foreman’s corner were legendary knockout king and former world light heavyweight champion Archie Moore and Dick Saddler.

Foreman only knew one way to fight and that was to seek and destroy. It was later revealed that legendary trainer Cus D’Amato advised Ali to land the first punch and as hard as he could hit to make Foreman aware of his power. Ali did just that and the fighters fell into a clinch. With Ali taking heavy punishment on the ropes he allowed Foreman to open up on him taking quite a few on the arms and gloves.

Another tactic by Ali was to pull down on the back of Foreman’s neck to tire him. Referee Clayton would never warn him for this infraction. Ali easily took the first round as Foreman easily took the second round though missing as much as he was landing with Ali on the defense. Foreman continued throwing more punches than Ali and taking the third round.

The fourth and fifth rounds were close with Ali gaining an edge with Foreman starting to show signs of tiring. In the sixth round Ali started out fast landing good jabs and right hands and referee Clayton finally warned Ali for holding behind the head. By the end of the round both fighters were slowing down with foreman throwing wide arm punches.

In the seventh Foreman though slowed down seemed to get the better of Ali who was not throwing much in return. Two judges had Ali ahead by scores of 70-67 (as did this writer), 69-66 and the referee 68-66.

In the eighth round with Ali in the corner Foreman threw a wide left hook that Ali avoided and almost went over the top rope. With 30 seconds to go in the round and Ali’s back to the corner he landed a solid right hand and followed with another and Foreman looked hurt and starting to fall into the ropes as Ali landed a third right hand on the back of the head. As Ali spun out of the corner with Foreman following a right, left and a missed right followed by a left and right hurting Foreman who was spinning out of control and down to the canvas.

Though it was one of the quicker counts I’ve seen Foreman got up at ten and just walked back to his corner. The fight was over with Ali taking the title more by cleverness and a little help from the referee. It was over at 2:58 of the eighth round with Ali regaining the title and Foreman suffering his first loss in 41 fights.

Foreman would come back in 3 months in January of 1976 against the ever dangerous Ron Lyle, 31-3-1, in January of 1976 while Ali announced he would take on Chuck Wepner in March. This would be one of the most brutal knock them down sock ‘em fights in the history of the heavyweight division.

In Foreman’s corner would be Gil Clancy while Kenny Adams was in the corner of Lyle. This was almost 3 years since Clancy took Jerry Quarry a heavy underdog into the ring in New York and completely befuddled Lyle for his first loss. Lyle was coming of a knockout win over Earnie Shavers.

Lyle raced across the ring at the opening bell trying to land a lead right hand the way Ali did in Zaire but Foreman easily stepped to the side as Lyle went past him. Halfway through the round Foreman landed a left hook that knocked Lyle off balance. Referee Charley Roth showed his inexperience by stepping between the fighters after separating them and spinning around.

An overhand right by Lyle rocked Foreman with 20 seconds to go in the round. Foreman was able to tie Lyle up without taking another solid punch until 5 seconds to go when Lyle landed a hard left hook to the head.

In the second round Lyle ran across and missed again to start the round. Lyle landed a strong jab with Foreman countering it with a strong right hand. Both fighters were mixing it up pretty good when Foreman landed a left hook that raised the right leg of Lyle off the canvas. He missed with a second but landed a solid right. Lyle went back to the ropes. Foreman landed a good right with Lyle now in the corner followed by a good left hook. Lyle landed a short right at the bell as both fighters stared at each other as Foreman walked to his corner.

In the third round Foreman landed a two punch combination to the mid-section of Lyle making him fall back against the ropes. Most of the round Lyle stayed on the ropes near a neutral corner with Foreman taking shots at him easily winning the round.

In the fourth round Lyle landed a good straight right hand over Foreman’s left jab that got Foreman’s attention. Inside a right uppercut by Lyle jarred Foreman. A left hook, right hand and right uppercut followed by a left hook knocked Foreman off balance and in trouble. As Lyle followed him toward the ropes he landed a right and followed with a left hook. It seemed Foreman was starting to fall forward and a little help from Lyle leaning on him as Foreman hit the canvas and Lyle tried to hit him with a right uppercut that just missed.

Foreman tied up Lyle and was moving him around in circles. In the middle of the ring it was a slugfest as Foreman landed a left, right and left hurt Lyle. As the fighters were exchanging punches with Foreman landing the cleaner he landed a punch behind the head as Lyle had tried to avoid it causing the punch to and there. A pair of right hands to the head and Lyle was on the canvas.

Lyle barely beat the count and leaned back on the ropes with both hands holding the top strand while Foreman was doing the same in the corner as the referee seemed to checking if Lyle was all right to continue. Four unanswered solid left hooks from Foreman as he had Lyle on the ropes. Foreman ducked a right hand and in coming back up got caught with a left hook.

Suddenly Lyle in the middle of the ring landed 7 unanswered punches started with a right uppercut. As both fighters threw rights at the same time Lyle’s got in first and down went Foreman onto his right arm for the second time in the fight he was down. As Foreman managed to get to his feet in the middle of the ring the bell ended the fourth round.

In the fifth round fighting inside Foreman landed a 5 punch combination. After a break Lyle landed a good left hook. Foreman was hurt but managed to bully Lyle to the ropes. Both fighters very tired. Left hook lands on Foreman’s jaw with little effect. Lyle looks more tired while Foreman seems alert. Both fighters hands down as Foreman lands 4 straight jabs followed by a straight right on the jaw. Lyle comes back with right uppercut to jaw of Foreman.

Inside Lyle doesn’t seem to be able to lift his right to throw it as Foreman lands 7 straight unanswered punches with the last 3 left hooks to the head of Lyle as he falls to his left against the ropes. Lyle seems out on his feet as Foreman lands over a dozen punches seemingly in slow motion with Lyle only landing one left hook in return but Lyle has nothing else left as Foreman steps back and Lyle goes head first to the canvas. As he struggle to get to his knees he rolled over on his back as the count was completed at 2:28 of the fifth round.

To keep the rust off Foreman took on 5 opponents in Canada in an exhibition in Boone Kirkman, Jerry Judge, Alonzo Johnson

It was 15 months after losing for the first time and Foreman is back against Ron Lyle in a fifth that will be remembered for years. Now, after 3 ½ years Foreman gives “Smoking” Joe Frazier his rematch. Frazier even shaves his head so he can “slip” the punches better. Frazier since their first fight lost beat Jerry Quarry and Jimmy Ellis but lost to Ali in the “Thrilla in Manila” in his last bout.

This time the only thing at stake was the NABF title Foreman won defeating Lyle. Both fighters came in at 224. Foreman dominated this fight hurting Frazier with lead right and lefts to the body. Frazier wasn’t the same fighter that would come inside and throw that left hook. He was showing Foreman too much respect. He had no chance at long range.

In the fifth round Frazier with his back to the ropes got hurt with a Foreman combination. A follow-up left had Frazier in more trouble when a lead right and left hook to the jaw dropped Frazier sideways but to his right. He was up and Foreman came across the ring from the opposite corner to land punch after punch until a final combination dropped Frazier right back into the same corner. Though he beat the count he was done. His corner signaled to the referee Harold Valan to stop it at 2:26 of the fifth.

Just 2 months later Foreman stopped Scott LeDoux, 18-3-1, in 3 and 2 months after that John “Dino” Denis, 28-0-1 in 4. Starting off January of 1977 Foreman blasted Pedro Agosto, 27-7-1, down twice in the third and 3 times in the forth causing an automatic stoppage at 2:34. Foreman increased his record to 45-1 with 42 knockouts.

In March of 1977, Foreman traveled to San Juan, Puerto Rico, to meet Philly’s Jimmy Young, 20-5-2, at the Roberto Clemente Coliseum. Young was very crafty and had just defeated Ron Lyle. He was 13-1-2 in his last 16 fights. He drew with Earnie Shavers in a rematch and Billy Aird in the UK. The only defeat was a controversial one to Ali. Young seemed to do better against bigger opponents. He was a classic boxer who gave Joe Frazier hell in the gym.

Gil Clancy was with Foreman in the corner. Clancy an IBHOF trainer and one of the best commentators at ringside there ever was, passed away March 31st. Clancy rejuvenated the career of Jerry Quarry. This was a close fight from the outset. Young, a very good defensive boxer was making sure Foreman used his legs in the outside heat of San Juan. Going into the last round Foreman had little left as Young scored a knockdown. He didn’t need it to win but it did give him a 115-114 on one judge’s card as the other two had it 116-112 and 116-111 all for Young. This was Ring’s “Fight of the Year”.

In the dressing room Foreman lay on the rubbing when he became ill suffering from exhaustion and heatstroke. He claimed he found himself in a hellish place of nothingness and despair. He pleaded to God to help him. He felt God asked him to change his life. After this experience of CHANGE Foreman was “born again” and accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.

Foreman would eventually become ordained into the ministry in Houston, TX. He also opened a youth center. He would go on Christian talk shows and share his testimony. It would be almost 10 years at the age of 38, to the day when he decided to return to the boxing ring in March of 1987 in Sacramento stopping Steve Zouski, 25-11 in the 4th round. By year’s end he had scored 5 straight knockouts.

In 1988 Foreman scored 9 more straight knockouts upping his streak to 14. Among the opponents in that year were former WBA cruiserweight champion Dwight Muhammad Qawi, 28-5-1, who was stopped for the first time in his career in his previous fight losing to Evander Holyfield. Foreman would be the second and last person to stop him in an interesting fight going 7.

In 1989 Foreman was 5-0 with his knockout streak stopped at 18. In his third fight he stopped former WBC light heavyweight champion JB Williamson, 23-4 and “Smokin” Bert Cooper, 20-4, the following fight quitting on the stool after taking a beating for 2 rounds. In his last fight of the year in July Everett “Bigfoot” Martin, 17-7-1, came off the canvas in the eighth round and went the full 10.

It would be close to 6 months before Foreman would take on his most serious opponent in his comeback in “Gentleman” Gerry Cooney, 28-2, in January of 1990 in Atlantic City. Cooney hadn’t fought in 2 ½ years since losing to Michael Spinks. It didn’t go any better for Cooney this time being stopped in 2 rounds. Before the year was out 4 more bit the dust making it 24 straight wins with 23 by knockout.

It would be over 16 years since Foreman fought for the world title. He paid his dues and would fight Evander Holyfield, 25-0, for the WBC, WBA and IBF titles in Atlantic City in April of 1991. Both Michael Moorer and Tommy Morrison would be on the undercard in separate bouts.

In the seventh round a round house right from Foreman knocked Holyfield off balance. It was a big round for Foreman. In the eleventh round on the third warning referee Rudy Battle took a point away from Foreman for a low blow. Holyfield was on the move this round not wanting to take anymore body shots that possible. He was holding onto Foreman and the fans were very upset with the younger champ.

Holyfield landed a solid right with 20 seconds to go in the round and followed up with a combination before Foreman tied him up. In the twelfth and final round Holyfield was dancing around Foreman and throwing mostly rights. Archie Moore, working Foreman’s corner was yelling “punch him”. Foreman was exhausted by this time chasing Holyfield. The fans were on their feet. Foreman may not have won the fight but he won the respect of Holyfield and the fans. Holyfield would get the decision by 116-111, 117-110 and 115-112.

It would be 8 months after Holyfield before Foreman would fight again. Holyfield signed to meet “Smokin” Bert Cooper who Foreman had destroyed on his comeback. Foreman stopped “the other” Jimmy Ellis, 16-0-1, in 3 rounds in Reno at the end of 1991. In early 1992 he was matched with hard hitting Alex Stewart, 28-3 (28), who never had a fight go the distance. He had losses to Holyfield, Tyson and Moorer. This would be the second straight semi-windup bout for Foreman and it was a hard fight right down to the wire. Foreman took a majority decision, 94-93 twice and 94-94.

It wouldn’t be until January of 1993 before Foreman would fight South African Pierre Coetzer, 39-4, a hard hitting puncher who had just lost back to back fights with unbeaten Riddick Bowe and Frank Bruno. Foreman would finally stop Coetzer in the eighth round. Tommy Morrison beat Carl “The Truth” Williams on the same card. Foreman and Morrison would fight for the vacant WBO title in June.

Morrison was 36-1 with 8 straight knockouts since losing to Ray Mercer. Foreman expected a war but instead Morrison would punch and move, punch and move. He always stayed a step ahead of Foreman and won a fair decision. Morrison would lose his title in his first defense. In the meantime former IBF light heavyweight champion Michael Moorer started campaigning in the heavyweights and won the WBO title but didn’t defend it. He did get a chance for the WBA and IBF titles and dethroned Holyfield. Though Foreman was idle for 17 months he got the first shot at Moorer in November of 1994.

Foreman was 45 years old and stood little chance with the 35-0 southpaw Moorer. Going into the tenth round he was behind 88-83 twice and 86-85. In the tenth Moorer was not moving as much and seemed stunned by a Foreman jab which was followed by a straight right hand and down went Moorer. Foreman became the oldest fighter to ever win the heavyweight title at 45.

The WBA wanted Foreman to fight Tony “TNT” Tucker, 52-2 (42), the former IBF champion. He declined and was stripped of his title. He still had the IBF title and would defend it against the German Axel Schultz, 21-1-1, in April of 1995. The vacant WBU title was also on the line. Schultz had defeated the former WBA champion James “Bonecrusher” Smith in his previous fight. The German surprised Foreman and a lot of fans by giving him one tough fight. In the end Foreman would get the win 115-113 twice and 114-114 for a majority decision. Schultz wanted a rematch and Foreman declined and gave up the IBF title.

Some 19 months later at the age of 47 Foreman defended his WBU title in Chiba, Japan, by defeating Crawford Grimsley, 20-0, over 12 rounds. In April of 1997 at 48 Foreman defeated Lou Savarese, 36-0, in Atlantic City by split decision in his last WBU defense. In November Foreman would have his final fight losing a majority decision to 25 year old Shannon Briggs in Atlantic City. The Schultz and Savarese fights were closer than this one but in losing a disputed decision Foreman called it a day. Briggs would get a shot at Lennox Lewis’ WBC title in a losing effort. It would be another 9 years before he won the WBO title in 2006. Anyway you look at it, it took a future champ to retire one of the top heavyweight champions of all time in “Big” George Foreman.
 
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Arum-schaefer Beefing Over Dueling Ppv's


At the MGM Grand, Alvarez will defend his WBC junior middleweight title against former champion Victor Ortiz, provided Ortiz defeats Josesito Lopez this coming Saturday night at Staples Center in Los Angeles. Golden Boy Promotions will stage the event and Showtime pay-per-view will carry it.

Down the road at the Thomas & Mack Center, Chavez Jr. will defend his WBC middleweight crown against mandatory challenger Sergio Martinez. Top Rank and Lou DiBella will promote the card and HBO pay-per-view is slated to distribute.



BS: Bob Arum explains his side of the story.

Arum: In February, we reserved the date of September 15th with the pay-per-view industry because we were getting pressure from the WBC to do a Chavez fight with Martinez. We subsequently let HBO and everybody know. We subsequently signed an agreement, the fighters did, with the WBC - [agreeing that] the winner of Chavez-[Andy] Lee would fight Martinez in September.

Now, Golden Boy then went and got a deal with the MGM for a fight on September 15. It was a fight with Canelo, but they had another opponent. They thought that would then kibosh our plans, because we were bound and determined to go in Las Vegas. Schaefer doesn't know about the Runnin' Rebels basketball team. We went to the Thomas and Mack and put a hold on that date but wouldn't announce it because we didn't know if Chavez would beat Andy Lee. Once that fight came out, we went to our friends at the Wynn and concluded the deal with the Thomas & Mack and we're going on the 15th because huge players from both Mexico and Argentina are being talked to, to come in.

That's the story. We didn't step on anybody's date. If anything they stepped on our date because they still don't even have a fight because who knows if Ortiz wins on Saturday or if he wins and gets hurt. We're old school. You don't ask permission to have a fight, which we did with the commission on Monday, until the fight is done.

We have advised everybody. If they want to go the same date, be my guest.....I don't care. But don't say that I'm counter-programming them and being spiteful because that's not the truth. We've always planned for this. I can say that I didn't know if we could pull it off because who knew how good Chavez would become. But that's what we've been planning.

BS: Have you ever been in a situation like this before, with a competing pay-per-view only two miles down the road?

Arum: Not two miles. The closest thing that I remember, is when we were doing a fight in Madison Square Garden before the Puerto Rican Day Parade - Malignaggi and Cotto - and Schaefer, with HBO, they insisted on doing Tarver and Hopkins, a pay-per-view against us. So, obviously we got hurt a little bit, but we still ended up not doing too bad.

BS: Has there been any concern from HBO in terms of going head to head with another pay-per-view?


Arum: Obviously everybody would like the universe to themselves, but we are going to be on the first channel and many cable systems can only take one fight - which means that they will take our fight. So they will lose coverage because we reserved it back in February. Obviously nobody wants two in the same night, that's stupid, but it is what it is. It seems to me that there is no reason why they can't change it to October. The pay-per-view people are delighted because ours is the stronger fight. Alvarez against Ortiz is a fight [but] who would give Ortiz a chance to win? Not many people.

BS: Do you believe their show was booked on this date because nobody thought you were ever serious about making the Chavez-Martinez fight?

Arum: No, now wait a second. They took a gamble. The gamble was 1. , that Lee would beat Chavez or 2. , that Chavez would beat Lee but he would be too banged up and couldn't go - or 3. , that I was f***ing around with putting Chavez in with Martinez because it was a fight that I would never do. So they gambled. In other other words, a lot of things could have happened on Saturday night, which would've made them have a free roll. One, Chavez could have lost. A lot of people were saying that Lee would beat him. Two, it could have been a war and Chavez would have been so beat up that he couldn't come back that quick. Or three, Arum was full of sh*t, he has no intention of having Chavez fight Martinez.

Because remember how you guys were talking about Chavez and Martinez. That Martinez would kill him, that Chavez shouldn't have the title....and that sort of stuff. Until last Saturday, I can understand where you all were coming from. Because without last Saturday's performance - who would give Chavez a shot against Martinez?

BS: Arum's thoughts on why Golden Boy announced Canelo-Ortiz last week.

Arum: If you're Schaefer and you want the date, you roll the dice. You announce the fight before one of the fighters has finished his fight. In other words, Ortiz has a fight this Saturday. So how do you announce the fight unless you say Ortiz is in with a complete bum and it's not really a fight. If so, then why are you selling tickets to it?

They announced it so they could say, if we followed through with September 15th, that we were jumping on their date. Otherwise it made no sense. Nobody in their right mind announces a fight before [the other fight is done]. They could have announced it on Saturday night like we did. They did it in a naive belief that if everything fell into place and Chavez [and] Martinez were in fact going to fight, that they already had put a flag in the ground on that date. That's what it was.

The first thing they thought, is once they got the date from the MGM, they thought that was it - game set and match - because Schaefer doesn't know that there's a basketball arena, Thomas & Mack. He's never done a fight with Thomas & Mack. If I were them, I would take advantage and go in October. Why? Because if Chavez loses, then they could say 'now you're going to see the real Mexican star.' And if Chavez wins, the Mexican fans would be so enthused that it would carry over to Canelo's fight. It's a win-win for them.

BS: Richard Schaefer's reaction to Arum's statements and his position to go forward with Chavez-Martinez on September 15.

Schaefer: First of all, when we reserved the date I was not aware that there was another event. And secondly, even the media was doubting that the fight with Chavez and Martinez was ever going to happen. So how could you possibly hold a date for an event where you don't even know if it's going to happen? Even Arum didn't want to do [Chavez-Martinez] for a long time.

This is pure evil and bad will from a typical old man, Bob Arum. Typical Bob Arum bullsh*t. Why is he going to the same city? What is his excuse there? Why is he doing it in the same city? He is just a miserable old guy who doesn't give a sh*t. And I have to tell you, anybody who aligns themselves with him are being taken for a ride.

And by the way, HBO knows..if they are going to go and play those games, going against a pay-per-view with us, and supporting that kind of behavior, supporting the behavior of going in the same city, all of that.....I'll take notice of that. I just don't understand why people with half a brain would go an align themselves with somebody as miserable as Arum. Because this is pure ill will. There is no reason why he has to go in the same city.

BS: Do you believe that HBO's support of this event has anything to do with Canelo staging his first pay-per-view with Showtime?

Schaefer: HBO knows exactly why Canelo went to Showtime and I'm not going to go and discuss that in the press. They know exactly why and I'm not going to say anything, but when the time comes I will. Arum has been able to get away with bullying everybody, but he knows that he can't bully me. He was never able to and he never will. And he knows that. It is what it is.

He goes and announces that he has an HBO pay-per-view and he doesn't even have HBO on board. He is trying to drag HBO into the middle of this, but I believe that HBO is smarter than that.

BS: If HBO does carry the event, you would take note of that for the future?

Schaefer: Obviously, I would look at this as an act of hostility. There is no question about it. How could you not? And to top it all off, to go on the same date and then go in the same city. This is going to be interesting to see what's going to happen. But I'll tell you one thing - I like our chances. We are young, we are well capitalized and we have the best fighters in the world. Again, I really, really like our chances.

BS: In your opinion, Arum is attempting to bully your event off the date?

Schaefer: Exactly. He takes pleasure out of these things. Why would he otherwise even go in the same city? That's just how he is. He talks all that sh*t about the MGM now...that they don't make tickets available to the other casinos. He's talking sh*t about the MGM again. He's a miserable guy and he always seems to be able to get away with this stuff because you know people, including the media, are so intimidated by the guy, that they are not willing to stand up to him - including other promoters. I am not intimidated by Bob Arum [because] A. we have much better fighters [and] B. We are a much better financed company than he is. We are the future and he is the past. Let's not kid ourselves here. People are intimated by this guy, but I am not.
 
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Not when he could make a considerable amount more for negotiating a better deal that included a % of the PPV revenue.

The difference between Floyd's other opponents and Pacquiao, is that Pacquiao doesn't have to ask "how high?" when Floyd tells him to jump.

He would have been an idiot to take that flat fee.
So negotiating is saying 50/50 and then hanging up the phone?? One guy keeps on pulling out of negotiation for the fight. 1st it was because of random drug testing and the Manny fans made excuses for him, now it's the money split even if the facts all prove Mayweather brings in and makes more money then dude. But the Manny fans still making excuses for him not to fight Mayweather.
 
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So negotiating is saying 50/50 and then hanging up the phone?? One guy keeps on pulling out of negotiation for the fight. 1st it was because of random drug testing and the Manny fans made excuses for him, now it's the money split even if the facts all prove Mayweather brings in and makes more money then dude. But the Manny fans still making excuses for him not to fight Mayweather.

Let's stop pretending that we have all of the details, because really, we only know as much as the media tells us.

Also, we've been over this 1,000 times. If there wasn't a demand for additional testing, we would have seen this fight 3 years ago.


Fact of the matter is that both parties had their share in why this fight is now too little too late.
 
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Before Pac was seriously mentioned/considered as an opponent, did Floyd ever require OSDT for a fight?
No, and what made it more sketchy is that his demand came after negotiations had already begun. I actually remember reading that the fight was pretty close to a done deal, and then the demand for OSDT's came up and threw a wrench in it all.

The rest is history.
 

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Before the fight did Manny ever demand 10 million for each pound overweight to an opponent?
Not that I know of, but Floyd came in overweight in the bout prior to when negotions started to take place (or it may have been a two or three fights before.)

It was against JMM and Floyd had to pay 600k because he was 2 lbs over and it was 300k per pound.

So can you answer the question? Before Pac was seriously mentioned/considered as an opponent, did Floyd ever require OSDT for a fight?
 
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the Marquez fight was at 143-144 or some shit, don't think the extra weight Money put on played a role in the boxing lesson he gave to Marquez. the Manny fight was to be at 147 pounds and Mayweather agreed to the 10 mill penalty for each pound over. Mayweather has his reasons for asking for OSDT(I have mine as well) just like Manny had his with the penalty. Mayweather agreed and Manny didn't, its that simple
 
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actually trips floyd had first requested they fight at 154 for a vacant belt. it was because of that and the fact that floyd came in overweight by two pounds that pacs team requested high penalties.

and its funny how floyd being overweight by two pounds means nothing against marquez, yet u criticize pac and his 1 pound catchweight against cotto. I see your agenda.
 

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actually trips floyd had first requested they fight at 154 for a vacant belt. it was because of that and the fact that floyd came in overweight by two pounds that pacs team requested high penalties.

and its funny how floyd being overweight by two pounds means nothing against marquez, yet u criticize pac and his 1 pound catchweight against cotto. I see your agenda.
I pointed out the bold before and all I heard was crickets.
 

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the Marquez fight was at 143-144 or some shit, don't think the extra weight Money put on played a role in the boxing lesson he gave to Marquez.

I didn't say it played a role. You asked me about Pac requesting the money and I told you that because Floyd had a history of coming in overweight, that may have been the reason why Manny wanted 10 million per pound.

the Manny fight was to be at 147 pounds and Mayweather agreed to the 10 mill penalty for each pound over. Mayweather has his reasons for asking for OSDT(I have mine as well) just like Manny had his with the penalty. Mayweather agreed and Manny didn't, its that simple
Ok, let me make this very simple for you to understand.

At the time of negotiations, Floyd had a history of coming in overweight. Weight stipulations are a standard in boxing and when weights are agreed on, and one party does not meet the weight, they can get dinged 10 to 20 percent of their purse or the fight can be cancelled. Are you following me? Again, weight stipulations are s tandard in boxing and Floyd came in overweight against JMM.

Now, before Mayweather, Pac was never asked to take a OSDT, never tested dirty, never was accussed of Peds, etc. Before Pac, Floyd NEVER asked anyone to take ODST. In fact, I don;t think ANYONE in professional boxing did OSDT before Dloyd. Are you still following? Good now pay attention. NONE OF THE SHIT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKES SENSE.

Should Manny have just taken the test? Yes, he's the ONLY guy that refused so that is suspect, but don't make it seem as if the weight clause was unfounded when we know that it's a part of boxing, while ODST isn't a common contract clause.
 
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Top Rank signs Jesse Vargas
June 20th, 2012

By Eric Thomas: Top Rank promotions has signed 23-year-old welterweight fringe contender Jesse Vargas (19-0, 9 KO’s) to a fight contract. It’s an interesting choice, because the 23-year-old Vargas previously fought for Mayweather Promotions and he’s not looked especially great in the past year.

Bob Arum of Top Rank might be looking for some new blood to feed to his cash cow fighter former WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao after previously unbeaten welterweight contender Mike Jones was knocked out in the 11th round by Randall Bailey recently. Arum had been slowly grooming Jones for a title shot and then a a fight against Pacquiao. Jones’ loss to Bailey obviously spoiled Arum’s plans.

Arum has got his work cut out for him with Vargas, because he doesn’t look even as good as Jones. Vargas doesn’t have the huge size that the 6-foot Jones has, and he doesn’t have huge power either. Vargas looked incredibly boring in winning a recent 10 round decision over Steve Forbes last May. Vargas mostly moved and jabbed all night long. He treated Forbes as if he were an explosive puncher instead of an aging journeyman.

Perhaps the bad news for boxing fans is that with Vargas signing with Top Rank, it means that we’ll likely see a lot of Vargas in the near future with Arum making sure he includes him in all of his big pay-per-view and regular cable telecasts so that he can try and build a fan base for him. At 23, I don’t see Vargas improving fast enough to be put in with Pacquiao. He’s definitely not a threat to Pacquiao unlike Tim Bradley, another one of Arum’s recent signees to Top Rank.

Vargas reminds me a lot of a water down and weak version of Victor Ortiz once you take away his hand speed and big power. It’s difficult to imagine Vargas going anywhere in the welterweight division. He doesn’t hit hard enough and he’s easy to hit.
 
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Bradley to Pacquiao: I’ll make the WBO title vacant so we can fight for it
June 20th, 2012

By Chris Williams: WBO welterweight champion Tim Bradley says he’s willing to vacate his World Boxing Organization 147 pound title and have that title on the line for a rematch against Manny Pacquiao if he doesn’t like the idea of Bradley having the title in his possession.

Bradley’s amused by all of Pacquiao’s fans who are wanting him to either give the title back to Pacquiao or have him it stripped from him because they think he doesn’t deserve it. Bradley says he’s not giving anything back, because he earned it in the ring. But he does want to give Pacquiao a chance to try and get it back in a rematch if he’s game.

Bradley said to mydesert.com “Let’s do it. Let’s do the rematch. Let’s put the belt vacant, and let’s fight for the belt.”

That sounds interesting but I wouldn’t go counting on it happening if I was Bradley. He gave Pacquiao a taste of what it’s like to be out-boxed and I don’t think Pacquiao wants another taste of that bitter experience. Fighting with two bad feet, Bradley had Pacquiao missing badly and stumbling around like he had his shoelaces tied. It was sad, because you could see how visibly faded Pacquiao has become. I saw the age in his recent fights, but Bradley really brought it out front and center for the entire world to see.

Bradley realizes that Pacquiao’s fans are traumatized by his loss, and some of them don’t know how to deal with it.

Bradley said “A lot of people are upset because they lost a lot of money.”

Very true. I think a lot of people lost a big cash by betting on Pacquiao and ending up with nothing. They should have scouted out his recent fights a little better because they would have seen what I saw in him. He’s getting old and you can’t count on Pacquiao winning for sure anymore unless Arum drags out guys like Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley and Miguel Cotto for Pacquiao to look good against. Those guys are all stationary fighters and made to order for Pacquiao.
 
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Floyd Sr: Age catching up to Floyd Jr and he will be troubled against volume punchers
June 20th, 2012

By Kristofer Williams Sr. Floyd Mayweather Sr., as much as he loves to talk and brag about his son, may finally be coming to grips with the reality that faces 35-year old Floyd Mayweather Jr, who is tied with Manny Pacquiao at #2 in Ring Magazine’s current Pound-for-Pound ratings.

While Floyd Sr. stopped short of saying his son’s skills are steadily declining as evidenced by Floyd Jr’s last two fights versus Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto, he did say something truthfully revealing not too long ago when he spoke with On The Ropes.

“Age might be catching up with him now. I’m pretty sure it’s catching up with him. He’s not Superman,” the elder Mayweather quipped.

Widely considered as arguably the best defensive boxer ever, Mayweather Jr’s fading skills are beginning to show. Although he was still able to duck and dodge a lot of Cotto’s punches, it was clear that Floyd Jr’s footwork isn’t what it used to be. He is no longer as light on his toes, he fights a lot more flat-footed, and his patented shoulder roll defensive maneuvers weren’t as effective. To make matters worse, Cotto, who will never be known for his speed, was able to land power shots effectively and numerous times had no problem penetrating Floyd’s philly shell. It’s no secret that no other fighter has ever backed Floyd into the ropes and hit him as hard and as much as Cotto did for 12 full rounds save for Jose Luis Castillo and perhaps Demarcus Corley.

In addition, there were numerous times Floyd looked helplessly out of balance with his back on the ropes, and if it weren’t for what’s left of his feet coupled by the fact Cotto is slow and lacks stamina, Floyd would have probably tasted canvas for the third time in his career.

It looks to me that Team Mayweather and Uncle Roger are getting lackadaisical in their training because Floyd has looked rather ordinary in his last two fights. Maybe all the drama and focus on HBO 24-7 is starting to affect Floyd and his work habits. Whatever the case, time is running out for him to improve and as far as I can see it, an old dog doesn’t change old habits.

But Floyd Sr made it known that he wants his son to change his style because he fears for his son’s health, especially now that his son has decided to stay active in the sport and is most likely going to face younger and more powerful punchers from here on out.

“I just wish my son would throw more punches now,” Floyd Sr. said. “He has in the past, but he hasn’t done that in quite a while.”

Mayweather Sr. added, “He’s just counterpunching now…but the thing is…his trouble is going to be with a guy that’s consistently throwing punches. When you counterpunch, you’re only throwing maybe one punch or two punches.”

Let’s stop and think about that statement for a minute. It’s not that farfetched to consider the basis of Floyd Sr’s statement has everything to do with foreseeing a potential future hazard in a bout with Filipino fighting legend Manny Pacquiao. The elder Floyd is basically expressing his concern and fear that Floyd could easily be overwhelmed by someone who has speed, power, stamina, and most importantly the ability to overwhelm an opponent by sheer non-stop volume punching from different angles.

And what best critic can there be for Floyd Jr other than his own father? The same father who witnessed Pacquiao annihilate a fighter he trained (Ricky Hatton) in 2009. The same father who knows too well the ramifications of being on the receiving end of Pacquiao’s lethal lightning quick combinations coming from so many angles that they make a mockery of geometry.

“That’s when his [Floyd Jr] problem will come in, when he’s got somebody who’s real, real busy, and that will more or less probably be with a younger guy,” stated Floyd Sr.

He’s absolutely right. Because Pacquiao is 33, and Floyd Jr is 35. And Pacquiao is the typhoon that can easily flood Mayweather’s party on any given Saturday night. That’s why one person has dubbed him “The Fist and The Furious.”

It’s time for Floyd Joy to put up or shut up because if there’s someone that stays undefeated, it’s Father Time. And there is no way, even if hell freezes over, that Floyd Jr. defeats the process called aging.