best lyricist in the bay......

[209smokaz]

imma say rappin 4 tay spice 1 richie rich n yukmouth out those 4

 

[North Vallejo]

The Grouch
Zion I
Del
Scarub to name a few.

I mean were talkin lyricist skills. some of the dudes i named will murder E-40, Yukmouth and San Quinn. Dont get me wrong, they got skills and all but from a lyrical standpoint. Them foo's from Heiro and LL will murder them! Thats my opinion.

 

[TIME EX]

Locksmith,Boots Riley,Father Dom

As far as new commers
J-$lim
Joe Dimag
Jay-Alias

 

[macdrebaby]

Peplove
Ya Boy
Mac Dre

 

[ToX-$icK]

yea taj-he on his way,he still young but when he matures he gon probably take it

 

[MOESES SOULRIGHT THE 2nd]

young moe

peace
humility is a thing of the past

 

[fifthcolumngang]

Yukmouth, Million Dollar Mouthpeice And Crooked I, He Aint From The Bay, But Would Easily Murder Over Half Of The Rappers Named, And Lonely Souljah Ex: www.soundclick.com/fifthcolumn

 

[kyhompb]

Also the Grouch from LL
Casual
Lyrics Born
Gift of Gab

 

[autistic]

YES.. AND I STILL THINK PAC WASNT THAT GREAT OF A LYRICIST.. AND STORYTELLING TO ME DOESNT FALL UNDER 'LYRICIST''

PAC WAS A GOOD RAPPER AND NOT THAT BAD OF A LYRICIST EITHER BUT PEOPLE LIKED HIM CUZ OF THE SHIT HE SPOKE ON AND HIS WAY OF PUTTING HIS LIFE ON WAX.. NOT CUZ HE WAS SUCH A DOPE LYRICIST.. EVEN THO HE WAS A BETTER LYRICIST THEN HALF THE RAPPERS OUT TODAY.. A

LL THAT SHIT YOU MENTIONED LIKE ASSONANCE AND PERSONIFICATION ARE ALSO FACTORS THAT PLAY ALONG WITH BEING A GOOD LYRICIST BUT IF YOU LISTEN TO PAC SOMETIMES HIS RHYMEPATTERNS WERE REAL BASIC.. HE MORE OFTEN THEN NOT HE KEPT IT SIMPLE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUALITIES YOU CAN COMPENSATE WITH WHICH PAC HAD.. HE STILL ONE OF THE DOPEST OF ALL TIME.. BUT WHEN PEOLE SAY HE WAS THE DOPEST LYRICIST EVER OR PUT NAMES LIKE KEAK AND J STALIN I CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LYRICISTS ITS CLEAR THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALKING ABOUT

Well that's your opinion. See when you talk about Pac you gotta understand he had atleast 300 songs done that he never got to put out himself when he died. If you include these unreleased songs with his released catalog he definitely has the lyrical edge over anyone in the Bay Area.
I think Locksmith is ok but some shit I heard by him is mad corny, close to garbage, bubblegum, popcorn rap.
Imo Keep Ya Head Up is better than Locksmith's whole career so far.
So my opinion is that Pac is the best lyricist ever from the Bay Area.
Honorable mentions to E-40, Quinn, Hitman, Seff the Gaffla, Yukmouth.

 

[rawtunes]

damn nobody listens to jacka

 

[Tony]

E-40 and Mac Dre.

 

[dagig]

e 40 raps about anything like toothpaste and rotissary chicken and mac dre actually spits stories or crazy ass shit like 'im the hardest artist liek piccasso the painter" u think anything like that would come from 40, i think not.

 

[ItsMeZ]

a-wax is garbage..
woodie id say

Nuts

 

[ToX-$icK]

PROVE ME WRONG.. LIKE I SAID A LYRICIST TO ME IS MULTIS, WORDPLAY, METAPHORS ETC.


"my object in life is 2 b major paid//game sharper then a mutha fuckin razor blade"


and i still hear people bitin that shit,and thas jus the first thing that popped into mind

 

[DJ FRESH]

Chris The 5th.

 

[HUBCAT.]

TOX-SICK YOU CAN POST A HUNDRED PAC LINES IT WOULD STILL BE POINTLESS.. CUZ I NEVER SAID PAC WAS A WACK LYRICIST OR HE DIDNT HAVE NO CLEVER LINES.. WHAT IM SAYING IS HE KEPT IT BASIC MOST OF THE TIMES AND HE IS NOT THAT GOOD OF A LYRICIST COMPARED TO THE BEST

 

[ToX-$icK]

but u said lyrics r multis,metaphors and all that,n he got em,so wat r u sayin?

 

[HUBCAT.]

but u said lyrics r multis,metaphors and all that,n he got em,so wat r u sayin?

ITS NOT ABOUT IF HE HAS THEM.. I SAID HE CHOSE TO KEEP IT SIMPLE MOST OF THE TIME.. AND ANYBODY CAN COME UP WITH MULTIS AND METHAPHORS BUT HOW CLEVER ARE THEY ? AGAIN I DIDNT SAY PAC WAS A WACK LYRICIST BUT JUST COMPARE HIM TO SOME OF THE ELITE LYRICISTS AND YOU WILL REALLY FIND OUT HOW GOOD OF A LYRICIST HE IS...

 

[Mr. Samos]

TOX-SICK YOU CAN POST A HUNDRED PAC LINES IT WOULD STILL BE POINTLESS.. CUZ I NEVER SAID PAC WAS A WACK LYRICIST OR HE DIDNT HAVE NO CLEVER LINES.. WHAT IM SAYING IS HE KEPT IT BASIC MOST OF THE TIMES AND HE IS NOT THAT GOOD OF A LYRICIST COMPARED TO THE BEST

We understand what your saying. Your talking about the complexity and wittiness and creativeness of his written lyric. We get it. HOWEVER, I beg to differ. A lyricist is simply a person who writes lyrics. People make the decision to write about different things. Just because he didn't focus on silly battle raps or technical word play or multi syllable rhyme structures, doesn't mean he wasn't one of the best writers. He just didn't over-saturate his lyrical content with that, but if you listen, he has many many great lines. Pac is responsible for one of the hardest most popular diss tracks of all time. Pac could write an entire song in just minutes, we all know this, he had that natural ability. Pac wrote POETRY, he has books published where people can read his poetry. That's a lyricist! You have to think about the whole picture when you talk about artists like Pac, or Biggie, or Big L or whatever. I feel what your saying, but it doesn't really hold much merit to todays game.

All successful artists stick to the basics, and keep it basic. If he was busy all the time thinking up a witty metaphor or punchline or working on a really complex type of song "lyrically" do you really think he would of got so much real work done?

And who's the best?

Exactly.

Besides, Pac was from NY originally. This discussion is about CURRENT Bay artists.

 

[autistic]

I dont even know why I responded to the Hubcat guy. He thinks Locksmith is the best lyricist in the Bay. I think that says enough about his musical opinion.