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Apr 25, 2002
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M.O.B. Boss said:

However, do you think Eminem would last more that two seconds if he rapped about money? Are you kidding me? You think America would want to listen to a WHITE, MALE rap about having MONEY? There is no way in hell!!!


One example: Vanilla Ice, he definitely rapped about money, cars, and bitches.. he's like the second best-selling White rapper? I'm not sure but he's up there. And if the White rapper was put out by like Pdiddy, Cash Money, etc and has the teeny bopper appeal, I bet he would sell like Nelly in a second.


I dig Em cuz he's a breath of fresh air compared to rappers talking about fairtale lives they've seen on Scarface and Goodfellas. He raps on what he knows and lives. Whatever...... I'm don't want to sound like I'm defending him and you're opinion is your own. I just want to let you know that 1) yeah Em was out of line and hey if you feel culturally/racially offended there's nothing I can say, but 2) I've been offended concerning GEOGRAPHY, MATERIALISM, THE WAY MY GENERATION IS DEPICTED, THE MORALS COOKIE-CUTTER RAPPERS PUT OUT, and the list goes on.......
How do you know Eminem "raps what he lives?" As far as I'm concerned rap is entertainment, yes. Eminem could've been a suburban kid from Utah who brainstormed his whole rap career's content and rap life story to gain the success he has received since it's so outrageously different from today's saturated rappers' lyrics. Every rapper claims to be gangsta but you get close enough to believing they are one by listening to their music which is entertainment to get paid. Maybe I would be more biased to believe a local rapper's story than a commercial rapper in their music, but at the end shit just doesn't matter because it's still entertainment for bread for the most part. Tight music is tight music and it doesn't matter if you are really what or who you claim to be in your songs, to me at least.
 
May 16, 2002
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i think EM was said that shit about elvis recognizing the fact that elvis got his fame from doin' what black people did. he's sayin' that he knows that the fact that he is white is one of the reasons he is put on that next platau. i don't think he was dissin black people. he was dissin himself to a certain extent
 
Jun 14, 2002
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M-1 said:
Benzino: "Yes everyone, it's official...I'm coming out of the closet, and if you buy my CD, along with 3 free issues of my shitty ass magazine, I will be traveling across the country giving blowjobs. Who ever signs up for the subscription will have their address put in a database, so if you want a good blowjob, make sure you give me the correct info. In next month's issue, along with giving myself another Hip Hop Quotable award, I will be posing nude on a squirrel skin rug with nothing but my "I'm an Idiot" bumper sticker covering my nipples."
LMAO!!! That sounds like something his gay ass would say.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Young D-A-T said:


Agreed.. I don't hate Eminem, nor is he the best. "Die Another Day" was real entertaining wit valid points.

not really , FUCK SOURCE BENZINO TALKIN ABOUT THE STREETS ? KEEPIN' IT REAL HOW COME LABLE LIKE HOGGLIFE WERE BIG O WHO RUNS IT HAS DONE TIME AND AINT FEATURED THERE , OR HOW COME X-RAIDED IN THE MAG,LUNI COLEONE , OR C-BO ? MAYN THE ONLY THING I SEE FROM THE SOURCE IS RADIO RADIO MTV RADIO. WERE THE LOVE FOR THE WEST COAST ? HOW COME E-40 AINT BEEN IN A SOURCE QUOTABLE ? WERES THE LOVE FOR THE WEST COAST ? WERES THE LOVE FOR THE BAY ? ITS MAIN STREAM MATERAIL THAT BEING PUSHED IN THE SOURCE AND BENZINO SEZ SLIM SHADY IS A MARKETING TOOL ? THE SOURCE IS JUST AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN EM COULD EVER BE
 
May 19, 2002
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Young D-A-T said:


One example: Vanilla Ice, he definitely rapped about money, cars, and bitches.. he's like the second best-selling White rapper? I'm not sure but he's up there. And if the White rapper was put out by like Pdiddy, Cash Money, etc and has the teeny bopper appeal, I bet he would sell like Nelly in a second.
Not really, I went through his hit in my head and I can't remember him saying a word about money at all. Also, how long did Vanilla Ice last? A month, two? He had no longevity and is basically banned from music forever. Alos, I'm not talking about having a pop appeal, all kinds of white guys are doin that: N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, John Mayer, the list will go on. I'm was talking about the kind of shit CMR gets away with NO white male can get away with and have an ounce of longevity. That's definite. If Em came out with a song rappin about money he'd lose so much rap credibility that I wouldn't doubt people boycotting him like Vanilla Ice.

Young D-A-T said:


How do you know Eminem "raps what he lives?"
What's not to believe about it? I've heard him talkin shit about his mom and his mom went on record arguin back. There's proof of some shit. I don't hear much from him that's unbelievable at all.

Young D-A-T said:


Tight music is tight music and it doesn't matter if you are really what or who you claim to be in your songs, to me at least.
I agree with you there, but I think Benzino is just trying to get in the game by using Eminem's popularity. If Benzino is tight, his album would speak for itself, but I haven't heard his whole album, just a few tracks in your car so I can't speak on that yet. But damn, he's got like 10 features and tight beats, so that would really cloud his talent (if he has any).... "Booty" and "Rock the Party" both stunk so far he's 0 for 2.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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M.O.B. Boss said:


Not really, I went through his hit in my head and I can't remember him saying a word about money at all. Also, how long did Vanilla Ice last? A month, two? He had no longevity and is basically banned from music forever. Alos, I'm not talking about having a pop appeal, all kinds of white guys are doin that: N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, John Mayer, the list will go on.

He talks about getting bitches in his 5.0 ragtop in his most famous song. But what's longevity gotta do wit it, it's about money and fame, plus he lasted way longer than anything near a month or two, more like a few years that made history. He's done worldwide tours to earn his near $10million+ and worldwide fame. Get the money and get out. That's what he did if you really think about it. And about N'Sync and all'em, they are not rappers. They are pop. Vanilla Ice is a rapper. Nelly is a pop rapper.

What's not to believe about it? I've heard him talkin shit about his mom and his mom went on record arguin back. There's proof of some shit. I don't hear much from him that's unbelievable at all.
I mean that could've all been an act.. shock value sells, controversy sells. Mainstream media doesn't reveal all truths. You don't hear much from him that's unbelievable? His main raps are about killing his wife and mom etc. That's a big part of how he got in the game because he's White and the shit he rap about is real outrageous/exaggerated plus some skills. That sums up a big part of his career.
 
May 4, 2002
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manibo said:
i think EM was said that shit about elvis recognizing the fact that elvis got his fame from doin' what black people did. he's sayin' that he knows that the fact that he is white is one of the reasons he is put on that next platau. i don't think he was dissin black people. he was dissin himself to a certain extent
yep
 
Oct 4, 2002
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basically the best defense in a argument is to say something that the opponenet would argue...

as for the benzino supporters


1. Benzino claims that because of eminem suburban kids dont wanna hear black or latino mc's..

truth:jay-z , nelly, nas, ja rule, and a ton of mc's are selling records very very very well


2. he claims eminem is a product of the machine and he dont deserve to be where he is

truth: eminem been in hip hop for awhile putting in work.. he came from nothing and made somethign of himself, a success story that transcends race...He deserves all the money coming too.... i would hat eto work hella hard and not eat then make hella money than have someone jealous of my cash hate on me..

3. is eminem the best?

maybe, its a matter of a opinion, but as a lyricist, and other true lyricist will agree his skills are undeniable,the way he writes his patterns, his flow, emotion delivery... maybe you cant relate to what he says all the time but the skill is undeniable...


4. Benzino time after time has proven to be shady... hes not too good of a rapper yet HE WON SOURCE VIDEO OF TH EYEAR, has had numerous articles and good album reviews and etc on the source, and not on any other magazines... i mean shit.. rolling stones just gave him a 1/5 for his album.. i bet you anything the source is gonna give him a 4 or higher....eminem is his big break... its a fucking shame when u say you doing somethign for a cause yet your real motive is so fucking clear.. the saource is a influential magazine and he truns it... its called conflict of interest...
 
May 19, 2002
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^^^Very well put.

Imma just say it like this, and this is definitely not ONLY targeted at Benzino. ANYONE with money can buy a sick ass beat. If I won the lottery and bought 20 beats from the tightest producers I would have an album out with at least gold status. And that's the sad state of our generation's rap / hip-hop music scene. (And I couldn't rap a sandwich) FACE THAT SAD FACT.

Benzino is one of these cats. I don't know his past history with music, but I HAVE seen his last video on BET. His lyrics SUCK. I mean LISTEN to his lyrics. This guy has conflict-of-interest like a muthafucka. Just for that simple fact you ain't gettin respect if you pump up YOUR OWN SHIT. Angie Martinez was on the Basement with Tigga and had a charm on her neck with a gold record on it that could be flipped over to be a platinum one. And I think her single JUST came out. Did this bitch EXPECT her shit to go platinum???!!! Are you kidding me?! She IS fuckin New York RADIO. Do you not see the problem with this?

And Benzino is WAY worse. He's giving away the Source magazine with a purchase! He knows he sucks. And on another note, how can someone RESPECT this shit? I can't respect someone trying to use money to influence someone to buy an album. On the same token, cats don't respect Master P for what he did. Benzino is using another's success to gain some of his own. Does he expect to keep rapping after this album.

Fuck, I'm all over the place, but I don't like this cat. Also, don't think this post is because I got Eminem posters in my room. I think his successive albums have been downhill in lyrics. But Benzinos, Babys, Ja Rules, and others gotta stop representing hip-hop.

Money shouldn't buy you respect in the music industry, skill should.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Well, hip-hop is a BUSINESS in any way you look at it today. Benzino is a rapper/businessman(with Source). You do whatever it takes to get your product to sell, as long as it's not illegal. Ask Bill Gates, any other businessmen. Business is survival of the fittest! I won't hate on somebody who's tryna hustle and make more money. You don't hustle you don't eat plain and simple. I guess I relate more to it since I'm a business major? I don' t know maybe because I'm just a money hungry muthafucka like most but that's me, just my view.
 
May 10, 2002
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OK WHY WOULD U BUY THE CD TO GET THE SOURCE FOR 3 MONTHS FREE??? IF YOU BUY THE SOURCE FOR THOSE 3 MONTHS IT WILL BE ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AS BUYIN THE CD....UNLESS U ACTUALLY WANT THE CD I'D SUGGEST JUST BUYIN THE MAGAZINE THOSE 3 MONTHS....
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Young D-A-T said:
Well, hip-hop is a BUSINESS in any way you look at it today. Benzino is a rapper/businessman(with Source). You do whatever it takes to get your product to sell, as long as it's not illegal. Ask Bill Gates, any other businessmen. Business is survival of the fittest! I won't hate on somebody who's tryna hustle and make more money. You don't hustle you don't eat plain and simple. I guess I relate more to it since I'm a business major? I don' t know maybe because I'm just a money hungry muthafucka like most but that's me, just my view.
Well it might not be illegal, but changing his Made Men review to 4 1/2 mics is shady as hell, and made all the editors at the time walk out. Not to mention he was producing a white rapper fairly recently and is now against Eminem, saying it's because he's white and taking away the culture... That's not business that's bitch shit.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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yeah that is pretty shady.

benzino is just racist he hatin on em cause he scared that white folks are taking over rap. he look half white he should just hate himself for looking half white.

i think em is one of the best cause i think his lyrics is what he knows or thinks about things. even if his shit wasnt real you have to say the wigga got skills.

but i agree that music should be about showing your talent and skill, not for the money (maybe just a little money cause who doesnt want money).
 
Apr 25, 2002
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M.O.B. Boss said:
I know hip hop is a business and yeah zino is probably a good business man. But it ain't about the music no more? Are people trying to make money or express musical talent?
If you look at hiphop today, it ISN'T about music anymore. Almost EVERYONE in the game is in it for the money & fame that's why there's so much pop rap and switching up from rappers to appeal to certain groups so they can prosper. This has been going on for years. Hiphop has gone downhill since the "bling bling era" to me. How many rappers can you name that you think is doing music for the love of it? Personally I can think of a few. But this reply of mine is old news and I'm just somewhat repeating it again.