Ben Wallace to sign w/ Bulls...
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Yeah, it sucks, but he's going downhill, there's no denying that.
And it was originally reported as 52 million over 4 years., which is only a million more.. But, do you think a 32 year old Ben Wallace, a guy who relys on jumping ability more than any other guy in the league, who is losing his ability to jump due to his age, is worth 15 million a year?
It'll help them out over the next two years, but the bulls will be crippled after that. Gordon is gonna want big money. They'll get rid of chandler and have the PJ Brown expiring contract, so they may be able to get some free agent off of that, but they may just have to use that money to pay Ben Gordon. I think they'll probably let Hinrich go, not positive about that, but he may cost more money than they are willing to pay, as well.
But it will help them out.
Pistons signed Nazr, and no question, he's a downgrade. At least he can hit a fucking freethrow, and won't shoot less than 25 percent in the playoffs.
Ben killed us in the playoffs and a lot of people around here didn't want him back no matter what.
But, I wanted him back, but he's not a 15 million dollar a year player. He can't play offense at all. He cripples your team to the point where its 4 on 5. If he does get the ball near the hoop, they just have to foul him. He won't hit the freethrows, and his defense is sorta overrated, and I'd tell you that before he left. He's a good help defender, but he only is good if he has another good defender downlow with him.
His first two DPOY award years it was Cliff Robinson.. Once Cliff left, people saw that he wasn't that good.. Then, we got Rasheed, and Rasheed covered a lot of Ben's defensive weaknesses.
But no doubt he's the best help defender in the league, and one of the best shot blockers.. His rebounding ability is going downhill, but he'll still get you 11 a game... But, I'm not sure if all that's worth 15 million a year.
If I was Joe, I'd have a hard time paying Ben Wallace, a guy past his prime 15 million, which would effectively cripple our frachise. And we have to resign Billups next year, who is more important to the team, and actually still improving.
I do wish we would've kept Darko though.. He would've probably actually got playing time this year.. But we will be getting Orlando's lottery pick next year, so I guess that's alright.
Darko actually did pretty good for Orlando at the end of last season...
Off the bench:
7.6 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 1.1 APG, 2.07 BPG
And it was originally reported as 52 million over 4 years., which is only a million more.. But, do you think a 32 year old Ben Wallace, a guy who relys on jumping ability more than any other guy in the league, who is losing his ability to jump due to his age, is worth 15 million a year?
It'll help them out over the next two years, but the bulls will be crippled after that. Gordon is gonna want big money. They'll get rid of chandler and have the PJ Brown expiring contract, so they may be able to get some free agent off of that, but they may just have to use that money to pay Ben Gordon. I think they'll probably let Hinrich go, not positive about that, but he may cost more money than they are willing to pay, as well.
But it will help them out.
Pistons signed Nazr, and no question, he's a downgrade. At least he can hit a fucking freethrow, and won't shoot less than 25 percent in the playoffs.
Ben killed us in the playoffs and a lot of people around here didn't want him back no matter what.
But, I wanted him back, but he's not a 15 million dollar a year player. He can't play offense at all. He cripples your team to the point where its 4 on 5. If he does get the ball near the hoop, they just have to foul him. He won't hit the freethrows, and his defense is sorta overrated, and I'd tell you that before he left. He's a good help defender, but he only is good if he has another good defender downlow with him.
His first two DPOY award years it was Cliff Robinson.. Once Cliff left, people saw that he wasn't that good.. Then, we got Rasheed, and Rasheed covered a lot of Ben's defensive weaknesses.
But no doubt he's the best help defender in the league, and one of the best shot blockers.. His rebounding ability is going downhill, but he'll still get you 11 a game... But, I'm not sure if all that's worth 15 million a year.
If I was Joe, I'd have a hard time paying Ben Wallace, a guy past his prime 15 million, which would effectively cripple our frachise. And we have to resign Billups next year, who is more important to the team, and actually still improving.
I do wish we would've kept Darko though.. He would've probably actually got playing time this year.. But we will be getting Orlando's lottery pick next year, so I guess that's alright.
Darko actually did pretty good for Orlando at the end of last season...
Off the bench:
7.6 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 1.1 APG, 2.07 BPG
very good points indeed my friend, but what makes you think orlando will have a lottery pick to give next year? they play in the weakest division in the league, they have two rising stars in dwight howard and nelson, they added another very good young player in miliciic, they signed one of the best shooter in ncaa history in reddick, have a good point guard in dooling and a decent 3 in turkgulu. im thinking atleast 1st round for them. no way in hell are they a lottery team.
Well Pistons already try to fill up the space left by Wallace
Free agent center Nazr Mohammed of the Spurs has agreed to a five-year, $30 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher is reporting.
Nazr Mohammed
Mohammed
Terms were unavailable. Mohammed replaces Ben Wallace, who told the team Monday that he was leaving to join the Chicago Bulls.
Wallace, who agreed to a four-year, $60 million deal with Chicago, helped Detroit advance to four straight conference finals -- the first team to do so since the Bulls of the early 1990s.
Mohammed started 30 games last season for the Spurs, averaging 6.2 points and 5.2 rebounds. The 6-foot-10, 250-pound center most likely will replace Wallace in the starting lineup, allowing Rasheed Wallace to remain a power forward.
Mohammed, who turns 29 on Sept. 5, probably will not be able to rebound, block shots and provide energy as Ben Wallace did -- but he will cost about $9 million less next season.
Free agent center Nazr Mohammed of the Spurs has agreed to a five-year, $30 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher is reporting.
Nazr Mohammed
Mohammed
Terms were unavailable. Mohammed replaces Ben Wallace, who told the team Monday that he was leaving to join the Chicago Bulls.
Wallace, who agreed to a four-year, $60 million deal with Chicago, helped Detroit advance to four straight conference finals -- the first team to do so since the Bulls of the early 1990s.
Mohammed started 30 games last season for the Spurs, averaging 6.2 points and 5.2 rebounds. The 6-foot-10, 250-pound center most likely will replace Wallace in the starting lineup, allowing Rasheed Wallace to remain a power forward.
Mohammed, who turns 29 on Sept. 5, probably will not be able to rebound, block shots and provide energy as Ben Wallace did -- but he will cost about $9 million less next season.
Yeah, I think Orlando will be good.. But, there are a lot of teams in the East that I think are better...
Miami
Detroit
New Jersey
Cleveland
Washington
Indiana
Chicago
Boston I think will be improved this year as they don't have many holes anymore.
Milwaukee is still good.
Orlando could make the playoffs, but I don't see it happening.. They still are pretty unexperienced, but they do have a lot of young talent. I think they'll make it the year after next.
If Toronto gets a good SF, I believe they could be right up there with Orlando, as they have similar squads, but Orlando is probably better.
Miami
Detroit
New Jersey
Cleveland
Washington
Indiana
Chicago
Boston I think will be improved this year as they don't have many holes anymore.
Milwaukee is still good.
Orlando could make the playoffs, but I don't see it happening.. They still are pretty unexperienced, but they do have a lot of young talent. I think they'll make it the year after next.
If Toronto gets a good SF, I believe they could be right up there with Orlando, as they have similar squads, but Orlando is probably better.