Are YOU ready to die for your country...whether you want to or not????
- Thread starter Fucky McFuckerson
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Good quote Mr. Arson. But it doesn't include the whole quote which how you have it makes it kind of look like you should fight in a war for your country no matter the reason...which it doesn't...
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice,—is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other."
Read the whole thing and you can easily see he is only calling people pussies who won't fight if the war is justified.
The part I put in bold is what I feel the war...wait I forgot it's not a "war" anymore...well what I feel is "going on" in Iraq exactly is.
John Stuart Mill was a great philosopher and liberal thinker.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice,—is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other."
Read the whole thing and you can easily see he is only calling people pussies who won't fight if the war is justified.
The part I put in bold is what I feel the war...wait I forgot it's not a "war" anymore...well what I feel is "going on" in Iraq exactly is.
John Stuart Mill was a great philosopher and liberal thinker.
What he says is ture. I could make a website and post it here and say its truth.. but it wouldnt be.. Proof is what you need but the gov Wouldnt let any of the good shit slip... they have been at this since I don't know.. but Its been longer then i have been alive.. You guys should stop fighting with each other over bullshit you cant prove.. and Get Facts.
I say we need a cival war on the gov.. I would be down for that war.. But then again.. Whos to say we could run a better contry then the gov does.
I don't want to live just to die in some other contry that our own contry wont even give us the real reason why we are there.
We got to many Problems here that we need to work out befor we can do shit for others.
makes me glad im my mothers only son.......
unless they change that part of the draft law
that says u cant draft a mother's only son
(hey why not? theyre already slowing killing our rights
with shit like the PATRIOT ACT).......
muthafukaz poppin that coward shit bout not fighting
need to really see who their enemies are....
what people like yall need to do is really research
how democracies like GERMANY became dictatorships in the 1st place!!
unless they change that part of the draft law
that says u cant draft a mother's only son
(hey why not? theyre already slowing killing our rights
with shit like the PATRIOT ACT).......
muthafukaz poppin that coward shit bout not fighting
need to really see who their enemies are....
what people like yall need to do is really research
how democracies like GERMANY became dictatorships in the 1st place!!
You said it...not me brotha...
And you know this how?
You say you dont know me..yet you say you know i wont DO anything...well that would imply that in someway...you know what im about and know my personality...and you know all this just by the internet...right?
Spreading the word is a START...knowledge is POWER...and POWER is in NUMBERS...1 person wont change shit...but 1 million stands a chance...
And why are you so negative?"You wont do shit"...wow...thanks for the vote of confidence...what kinda negative,hater type shit is that man?Get some get right...please....
Read above....
Its ridiculous if you think you can learn something and just jump off a building man...use your brain...you have to take baby steps and organize...you dont know what the fuck i be doing off the net...so who are you to say i can and cannot do?I will or will not do?You dont...so please...shut it...
And you know this how?
You say you dont know me..yet you say you know i wont DO anything...well that would imply that in someway...you know what im about and know my personality...and you know all this just by the internet...right?
Spreading the word is a START...knowledge is POWER...and POWER is in NUMBERS...1 person wont change shit...but 1 million stands a chance...
And why are you so negative?"You wont do shit"...wow...thanks for the vote of confidence...what kinda negative,hater type shit is that man?Get some get right...please....
Read above....
Its ridiculous if you think you can learn something and just jump off a building man...use your brain...you have to take baby steps and organize...you dont know what the fuck i be doing off the net...so who are you to say i can and cannot do?I will or will not do?You dont...so please...shut it...
Standing up for what you believe in and refusing to fight in a war that you oppose in is honorable. Fighting in a war that you're against is simply being a bitch.
No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder, kill and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality.—Muhammad Ali
No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder, kill and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality.—Muhammad Ali
And this is the point right here...stand up for what you believe in...this is what I intend to do BEFORE and WHEN it happens...
Whether certain people on here think I or others will or will not do...is irrelevent...i dont even know why i feel like i should defend what i do in life...if people think i cant stand up or dont stand up...then oh well...i cant change your view...
Do what you do...and ill continue to do what I do...
Whether certain people on here think I or others will or will not do...is irrelevent...i dont even know why i feel like i should defend what i do in life...if people think i cant stand up or dont stand up...then oh well...i cant change your view...
Do what you do...and ill continue to do what I do...
