Anyone know how Prenup sold?

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Best Buy only stocks in areas theres a demand so if its not on da rak request it or have em order it.

Every store around the bay got them. I checked the inventory, but they werent crazy numbers. I would say it averaged out to around 5 copies per store. I can't remember 100%, but I think we ordered waaaaay too many beeda weeda albums and they just sat on the shelves until they were sent back (we even had an in-store signing with j-stalin and beeda weeda).

 

[radiostationrep]

Originally Posted by I Pukokeki Ioulo Momu Fact is, this album so far is flopping. What does that mean? Unless Stalin can make money on the tours and stay in demand, as you say, he may say "fuck music" and we wont get SHIT as fans. Why woudl someone keep doing something if it isn't paying his rent?

because it is for the love of doing music.lol(very sarcastic)


so to all you rappers that have been trying to get heard and still are not, GET OUT THE WAY! dont tell us your the king, you are the spitting fire, yada yada... that is up to the fans, not you.

this is yet another example of how defunct the bay area music scene has become.

 

[Rossibreath]

I dont like this cd

 

[pcoatprescott]

FACT OF THE MATTER IS..

THIS NIGGA STLL PUSHES REGARDLESS OF SALES, THIS RAP SHYT AINT FREE. NIGGAZ THAT REALLY DO RAP UNDERSTAND ITS MO MONEY SHELLN OUT THAN COMMIN IN. ALL MY LIVEWIRE NIGGAZ IS SOLID. THINK ABOUT IT YA FAVORITE RAP CAT IS PROLLY A BROKE NIGGA. WHILE YOU TALKIN GO BUY THE ALBUM, YOU A NIGGA TO TRIP OFF 9 10 DOLLAZ, ITS YOU, NOT THE ARTIST. THEY DOIN THEY JOB, AS A SO CALLED FAN OF SUPPORTER OF THIS BAY SHYT YOU AINT DOIN YOURS.
LOVE TO MY LIVEWIRE,NIGGAZ AND ALL BUY CATS THAT PUSH REGARDLESS OF SALES. HARD WORK IS PAYMENT
GO COPE THAT ICE MEEZ COLD GAME, A-WAX & GONZOE RECESSION PROOF, AND BE ON THE LOOK FOR PCOAT'S IM STILL GETTN IT N OFF PIE-RX RECORDZ.

PIE-RX PCOAT

 

[FatBlunts209]

lil flip sold 100,000 units of the same cd out his trunk before he went major,this nigga went city 2 city state 2 state across the u.s..niggaz need to quit expecting to blow up from word of mouth and hit them streets...

 

[Townbizz23]

You are right, to an extent. Albums set up tours, period. If the album is not in demand, why would someone want to book him for a show?

And how do any of us know if he is "in demand" or not? That is pure speculation.

The fact is, he did less than 1000 units in the first week. That is TERRIBLE, especially for someone who has been in the game for a few years and has dropped a shit ton of albums since 2007.

Fact is, this album so far is flopping. What does that mean? Unless Stalin can make money on the tours and stay in demand, as you say, he may say "fuck music" and we wont get SHIT as fans. Why woudl someone keep doing something if it isn't paying his rent?

Just because an album isn't selling doesn't mean it isn't in demand. PEOPLE DON'T BUY ALBUMS ANYMORE. That's the bottom line. Everybody I know back home is talking about this album, NONE of them bought it. That's just facts. So to say his album is "flopping" is inaccurate (unless you are judging solely on record sales). The term "flop" just doesn't mean what it used to mean.

And Stalin has not dropped "a shit ton of albums since 2007." He has one official album "On Behalf of the Streets," and the Town Thizzness project "Gas Nation." Everything else is mixtapes, street albums, or compilations....none of which garners a lot of attention outside the Bay.

 

[Mr. Illmannered]

So to say his album is "flopping" is inaccurate (unless you are judging solely on record sales). The term "flop" just doesn't mean what it used to mean.
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If that's the case, then folks are in major denial.

And again, I thought his album was well made.

 

[Townbizz23]

[If that's the case, then folks are in major denial.

And again, I thought his album was well made.

How so? If album sales don't properly judge how many people have the album, how can you say an album "flopped" based on its sales?

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

How so? If album sales don't properly judge how many people have the album, how can you say an album "flopped" based on its sales?

Because "flopping" is a direct effect from revenues not gained by album sales. Therefore, in order for an album to SUCCEED, it needs to NOT flop. When you FLOP, that means you are not making money off the album, which can cause a large domino effect in music. If you dont have the numbers, why would any major label want you? Is it not the goal in music to become successful and make money? Kinda hard to do that when you are "flopping".

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Just because an album isn't selling doesn't mean it isn't in demand. PEOPLE DON'T BUY ALBUMS ANYMORE. That's the bottom line. Everybody I know back home is talking about this album, NONE of them bought it. That's just facts. So to say his album is "flopping" is inaccurate (unless you are judging solely on record sales). The term "flop" just doesn't mean what it used to mean.

Not selling records = flop, period...thats the definition of flopping in the music industry.

And Stalin has not dropped "a shit ton of albums since 2007." He has one official album "On Behalf of the Streets," and the Town Thizzness project "Gas Nation." Everything else is mixtapes, street albums, or compilations....none of which garners a lot of attention outside the Bay.

J. Stalin is the CEO of Livewire, is he not? Therefore, he has dropped a shit ton of albums. He has been on a lot of others albums as well.

 

[Townbizz23]

Not selling records = flop, period...thats the definition of flopping in the music industry.



J. Stalin is the CEO of Livewire, is he not? Therefore, he has dropped a shit ton of albums. He has been on a lot of others albums as well.

No doubt, but it used to be that an album not selling records meant the album wasn't popular, that's what deemed it a "flop." Because nobody wanted it. That's not the case anymore because of the illegal downloading. "Flopping" doesn't just mean the lack of album sales nowadays. Like you said, no venue wants to book an artist whose album just "flopped." I guess that means Stalin's shit didn't flop since he's touring all over the place.

What does being CEO have to do with it? Shady Nate's "Gasman" is not a J. Stalin album. Yeah Stalin makes money off of it, but it's Shady's project, and it's not a part of J. Stalin's discography. Just like Lil Wayne's "Carter 3" isn't a part Birdman's discography.

 

[Calbear41510]

lil flip sold 100,000 units of the same cd out his trunk before he went major,this nigga went city 2 city state 2 state across the u.s..niggaz need to quit expecting to blow up from word of mouth and hit them streets...

all i can do is re enforce this statement. you hit the streets you get sales. the internet buzz can only do so much, word of mouth can only do so much. much respect to j stalin for still putting out music, maybe this project didnt turn out as well as planned, but that dont mean shit. only thing to do is re invent yourself and keep pushing. go hard

 

[Townbizz23]

Because "flopping" is a direct effect from revenues not gained by album sales. Therefore, in order for an album to SUCCEED, it needs to NOT flop. When you FLOP, that means you are not making money off the album, which can cause a large domino effect in music. If you dont have the numbers, why would any major label want you? Is it not the goal in music to become successful and make money? Kinda hard to do that when you are "flopping".

What I'm saying is that "flopping" isn't solely based on record sales. If an album doesn't sale big numbers, but is popular in the streets, the artist will still garner much success because of the album through touring and shows. The album doesn't have to sale big numbers to be deemed a success. Now if the album doesn't sale, and isn't popular in the streets, then it's a total FLOP.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

The album doesn't have to sale big numbers to be deemed a success. Now if the album doesn't sale, and isn't popular in the streets, then it's a total FLOP.

Actually, that's EXACTLY what it has to do. Album success = units sold, period. THAT is what major record companies look at in order to gage an album's success. If an album fails to sell, it = flop. I know you dont think it is that way, but it is.

Artists aren't gonna get shows unless they sell albums. And im not talkin about rappin at the local sports bar. Again, why would any promoter put a name on a flyer of an artist that isn't selling? Yes, Stalin is KNOWN, so it isn't as big of deal for him, but for newcomers it is. Trust me, if Stalin doesn't show he can move records, the demand for him to do shows at any decent level, will drop. If people aint buying the album, why would they PAY to go see him perform?

 

[SMMWest]

Don't worry so much about the first week. If the project is "OUTSTANDING" even in this economy it will pick up off of word of mouth alone.

As an independent that first week doesn't hold as much weight as it does for Major Label artists who if they flop the first week the Major Machine will pull all budget away from the project and the artist.

He has a good team behind him. They know how to work the streets. Their street buzz equals shows, the shows not only open the door for that revenue and also gaining new fans but it gives them a place to push product. Not all money the BAY AREA artists makes is visible to all trying to peer into their lives.

 

[kontac]

I did my part I bought the cd when it dropped I like the album. Well put together about to get that Jacka and Laroo today I always support bay area releases. If its tight its tight im sure the album will do real good over time.

 

[Simpaticone1]

BUY YOUR SHIT -


I LIKE SEEING WHO PRODUCED SHIT, AND A GOOD STOCK OF PICS ARE DOPE TOO.

CD'S ARE WAY TIGHTER THAN DOWNLOADING OFF ITUNES - BUT I DO SOMETIMES....

 

[livemanikins]

A lot of you heads are soo caught up in first week sales. First week sales don't mean shit. It is about replay value! quality! don't worry about how much it sold, If you like it then support it and that's it

 

[BayFan4ever]

in the words of danny dee's twitter:

"people are paying...with attention. The new music landscape is an attention based economy. First weeks sales is the old retail model."

 

[radiostationrep]

lil flip sold 100,000 units of the same cd out his trunk before he went major,this nigga went city 2 city state 2 state across the u.s..niggaz need to quit expecting to blow up from word of mouth and hit them streets...

oh, you didnt know! we major after one album out here in the bay area. lol

i'm just bullshitting. but on the real, if music is your "sole" hustle or goal in life, it needs to be worked as a full time job with overtime. I mean putting together a six month plan and executing that plan would go a long ways. Hand to hand sales are alot better than people think. But if you only hit it a couple times a month, i mean who are you really fooling? But from my experience and life in general, people are afraid of hard work. You can be independent and be successful, it just requires man hours.