Amare, Boris suspended. Ducan, Bowen not. BULLSHIT

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The "bench" rule should be changed. As a Spur fan I hate to see how this sh*t went down. I wanted to see Phoenix with a full squad. With the rules are right now they were correct in getting suspended. If Duncan stepped off the court well he should get it suspended too. I believe it should be consistent. I just want to see both squads at full strength. :cool:
 

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209Goodfella said:
The "bench" rule should be changed. As a Spur fan I hate to see how this sh*t went down. I wanted to see Phoenix with a full squad. With the rules are right now they were correct in getting suspended. If Duncan stepped off the court well he should get it suspended too. I believe it should be consistent. I just want to see both squads at full strength. :cool:
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bwa ha ha ha good one..
 

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you really think that steve kerr prompted the suspensions ? get the fuck outta here!
sorry fuckyourself....Steve Kerr maybe didnt promote, but he put way to much emphisis on it.....Sayin that shit over and over agian....Steve Kerr is a spur at heart, he is biast and he's a filthy square just like you. O.K. f yourself...be easy sheep boy...! Read what i write and learn suffa...
 
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i read what you wrote hoey and you were crying about steve kerr talking about it like he brought it to david stern's attention, as if he had no idea about it. you sir are an idiot! LOL
 
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Amare, Boris, and Horry were rightfully suspended. The fact that the rule is not strictly applied to every single situation where a bench player steps on the floor bears no relevancy to this specific situation.

People would be crying to a different tune if they did, so they must apply it in situations where there is an altercation (read fight) and players leave with the intent to fight.

An undercut is NOT an altercation, what ensued afterward wasn't either, so it wasn't very explicit why Bowen and Duncan got up.
 
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NBA suspends Stoudemire, Diaw for leaving bench

This is fuckin complete BS. They really dont want the Suns to FINALLY beat SA do they?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/news/story?id=2871615

By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

The pain from Robert Horry's hockey-style check on Steve Nash was felt on the day after by the Phoenix Suns.

The Suns' hopes for a lenient ruling from the league office faded quickly Tuesday night, when it was announced that Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw would indeed receive one-game suspensions for leaving "the immediate vicinity of their bench" during the altercation that followed Horry's hit on Nash in the final minute of a series-tying Game 4 victory in San Antonio.

Horry received a two-game suspension from the league for his flagrant foul on Nash and for striking Raja Bell above the shoulders in the subsequent fracas. The Suns, meanwhile, have lost two-thirds of the trio they use to guard Spurs star Tim Duncan after the NBA rejected their claims that the scuffling seen late Monday wasn't a full-blown fight and that Stoudemire and Diaw never got close to it anyway.

Nash, reached by phone Tuesday night, told ESPN.com that he was too "disgusted" to comment. Spurs officials declined comment.

Immediately after the incident Monday night, Nash had implored league officials to consider the circumstances surrounding Horry's foul, saying at a post-game news conference: "That would be terrible if that silly play at the end of a game, when the game is really over, if that causes a detriment to the rest of the series. That would be ridiculous."

"It was just an end-of-game foul and Steve fell down," Popovich said before the penalties were announced. "I didn't think it was such a big deal."

But NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson told reporters in a conference call after announcing the suspensions that the league's longstanding policy of invoking its leave-the-bench rule without considering additional factors made the Suns' suspensions automatic.

"A precedent wasn't necessary here," Jackson said. "The rule with respect to leaving the bench area during an altercation is very clear.

"Historically, if you break it, you will get suspended, regardless of what the circumstances are."

Jackson added that Stoudemire and Diaw, in the league's estimation, were "about 20 to 25 feet away from their seats" and headed "towards the altercation" before Suns assistant coaches scrambled them back to the bench.

The Suns countered by saying that Duncan and Bruce Bowen were guilty of a similar leaving-the-bench offense in Game 4's first half when San Antonio's Francisco Elson fell on the Suns' James Jones after a dunk. That play was also reviewed, but Jackson -- while conceding that Duncan "should not have been on the playing court" -- said that the league determined there was "no cause for the suspension rule" to be applied because the Elson-Jones tangle was not deemed to be an altercation.

That will likely only fuel Phoenix's series-long contention that the Spurs have been receiving favorable treatment from the league. Bowen was accused of intentionally kicking Stoudemire in Game 2 and intentionally kneeing Nash in the groin in Game 3. Apart from the foul on Nash being upgraded to a flagrant foul, Bowen went unpunished in both instances.

Speaking specifically about the Horry-Nash incident, Suns owner Robert Sarver told reporters in Phoenix on Tuesday night: "The way this worked out for us, it was, I believe, extremely unfair. . . . The team that plays dirty should not be rewarded and the team that plays fair should not be penalized."

Sarver added that the "first thing on my agenda" for next season will be making a push at ownership level to have the leave-the-bench rule re-examined. Sarver also said that NBA commissioner David Stern has canceled a schedule appearance in Phoenix for Wednesday night's Game 5.

Jackson said the league would consider re-evaluating the policy for next season "if a change is warranted" but insisted that "right now that line is very clear."

"The rule is the rule," Jackson said.

"It's not a matter of fairness. It's a matter of correctness."

Jackson added: "The purpose of the rule is to prevent the escalation of these types of incidents and in turn protect the health and safety of our players and diminish the chance of serious injury [for] our players."

All three of the suspended players, according to Jackson, have the right to appeal their suspensions at the end of the season to perhaps retrieve lost salary, but there is no appeal process that could restore eligibility in time for Wednesday's tipoff.
 
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I've said it beofre and I'll say it again..SPURS GET ALL THE CALLS THIER WAY!

That's the only way they have won all thier rings. They are dirty, cheap shot, floppers who win on the benefits of the nba and thier refs.....and this case higher ups.

The only one's who don't see this are Spurs fans and that's becuzz they are in denial!
 
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But NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson told reporters in a conference call after announcing the suspensions that the league's longstanding policy of invoking its leave-the-bench rule without considering additional factors made the Suns' suspensions automatic.


"Historically, if you break it, you will get suspended, regardless of what the circumstances are."


The Suns countered by saying that Duncan and Bruce Bowen were guilty of a similar leaving-the-bench offense in Game 4's first half when San Antonio's Francisco Elson fell on the Suns' James Jones after a dunk.

That play was also reviewed, but Jackson -

while conceding that Duncan "should not have been on the playing court

said that the league determined there was "no cause for the suspension rule" to be applied because the Elson-Jones tangle was not deemed to be an altercation.
 
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ok so I copied and pasted above and pasted them seperatly not as 1 paragraph so you can REALLY see the NBA's Bias


So it is a long standing policy leaving the bench without considering other factors that is why they wre suspended


BUT


With the spurs they considered other factors???????
 
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I would like to see a history of all the suspensions for this violation before I jump to any conclusions. I'm willing to bet no one has been suspended for leaving the bench without there being a fight going on.
 
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the rule is the rule. they should be smart enough to know better. its not as if it is a new rule, its been around since what 93 ? i think you suns fans should blame the coach for not preparing them for something like this. they did it to themselves.
 
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I've said it beofre and I'll say it again..SPURS GET ALL THE CALLS THIER WAY!

That's the only way they have won all thier rings. They are dirty, cheap shot, floppers who win on the benefits of the nba and thier refs.....and this case higher ups.

The only one's who don't see this are Spurs fans and that's becuzz they are in denial!
Ain't no one in denial man your just ignorant when it comes to NBA history. Spurs always won because they had one of the best defenses in the league. If you wanna talk bout dirty. The Denver Broncos offensive line are the dirtiest mofos ever in the NFL. Just ask Bryan Cox (in 2001) and others, when the cut block his ass and broke his leg. Now thats some dirty cheap shot shit.
 
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209Goodfella said:
Ain't no one in denial man your just ignorant when it comes to NBA history. Spurs always won because they had one of the best defenses in the league. If you wanna talk bout dirty. The Denver Broncos offensive line are the dirtiest mofos ever in the NFL. Just ask Bryan Cox (in 2001) and others, when the cut block his ass and broke his leg. Now thats some dirty cheap shot shit.

right!!! you are comparing a legal football block to str8 out flopping, crying and moaning
 
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209Goodfella said:
Ain't no one in denial man your just ignorant when it comes to NBA history. Spurs always won because they had one of the best defenses in the league. If you wanna talk bout dirty. The Denver Broncos offensive line are the dirtiest mofos ever in the NFL. Just ask Bryan Cox (in 2001) and others, when the cut block his ass and broke his leg. Now thats some dirty cheap shot shit.

Bruce Bowen throughout the years been apart of controversy whether he's sticking his foot out when someone is landing off a jump shot or throwing a cheap cheap shot. But no matter what the Spurs seem to do it lands in their favor. Horry got pissy cuz he didn't get the ball to in the closing minute to try to be a hero so he took a shot at Nash who is obviously Phoenix's best player, obviously if Amare or Boris were going out there to defend they would not have easily been restrained, this rule is foul and only being portrayed this way because of the impact it caused when Nash was hit