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Mike Manson

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Mayne I'm a big fan of the Grindhouse movies and I can't wait to see this shit. I just hope that they do the name justice! Maybe wait till the Unrated version comes out...
 
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Deadpool, according to you it didn't live up to it's hype. Alot of people including myself enjoyed it.

300 vs 100,000+(to be historically correct) how can you not like that?

The fight scenes were crazy and it is one of the best movies I have ever seen and I have seen a shitload of movies past to present.
 
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Where did I say I didn't like it? I just had higher expectations for the movie that were not met; but that the Hype had lead me to hope would be fulfilled.

It was not supposed to be historically accurate. If you think it was, go pound your self over the head with about a thousand years of books repeatedly.

The additions to the movie that were not included in the original source material were boring, stupid, and over all detracted from the film in every possible way. These additions lacked every good quality of the original story and every good quality of the feature film. They were filled with nearly everything that went wrong with the movie.

The slow-motion was over done. There was not enough fighting/action/etc. Due to these short comings and the un-needed additions, the movie began to drag. Action movies should not drag. Slow points that allow people to compose themselves and add some time to the story are required, but when the pacing of the movie drags, that is a major negative.

Then factor in things that feed the hype:
Director’s most recent film
Most recent Frank Miller adoption’s greatness
Quality promotion of the movie
Etc

People begin to expect that the movie will live up to those “promises”.

I have yet to meet someone who owned or read the graphic novel that thought this movie lived up to what it was hyped to be. There were plenty of positives to the movie, but there were enough negatives to make the movie come in lower than people’s expectations.


I happen to be an admirer of quality film making as both an art and entertainment. Similarly, comic books. I doubt many people on this site actually are. So my expectations and criteria for what a quality film requires are quite different than the simplistic nature of this site’s members.
 
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Deadpool said:
Where did I say I didn't like it? I just had higher expectations for the movie that were not met; but that the Hype had lead me to hope would be fulfilled.

It was not supposed to be historically accurate. If you think it was, go pound your self over the head with about a thousand years of books repeatedly.

The additions to the movie that were not included in the original source material were boring, stupid, and over all detracted from the film in every possible way. These additions lacked every good quality of the original story and every good quality of the feature film. They were filled with nearly everything that went wrong with the movie.

The slow-motion was over done. There was not enough fighting/action/etc. Due to these short comings and the un-needed additions, the movie began to drag. Action movies should not drag. Slow points that allow people to compose themselves and add some time to the story are required, but when the pacing of the movie drags, that is a major negative.

Then factor in things that feed the hype:
Director’s most recent film
Most recent Frank Miller adoption’s greatness
Quality promotion of the movie
Etc

People begin to expect that the movie will live up to those “promises”.

I have yet to meet someone who owned or read the graphic novel that thought this movie lived up to what it was hyped to be. There were plenty of positives to the movie, but there were enough negatives to make the movie come in lower than people’s expectations.


I happen to be an admirer of quality film making as both an art and entertainment. Similarly, comic books. I doubt many people on this site actually are. So my expectations and criteria for what a quality film requires are quite different than the simplistic nature of this site’s members.
why everytime somebody disagrees with you, you get personal? lol

look, I never said it was hystorically accurate, I just said 100,000+ as those were the accurate figures of the persian Army, however, it could possibly be up 1 million, nobody knows the exact amount.

I now see why you didn't like it and fully understand, it's because of your own interests such as comic books and you were expecting much more.

To say the movie was drawn out I think it was too short. The fight scenes were done well and the slow mo was great. The best part for me was the first wave how the Spartans held them back and then pushed with their shields. Very cool.

However, it is selling globally (we just got it here yesterday and so did germany ect) and don't be suprised if it's one of the highest selling movies ever made.

And not all movies should be highly intellectual, look at the good shepard, what a piece of shit that was. BORING fucking crap talk about dragging on.

Sometimes movies are better when they are simpler.

;)
 
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Personal? I don't recall saying you were a fagot or anything.

My point in saying the movie was drawn out doesn't have to do specifically with the length of the the movie, but it's pacing. Re-read my points about an action film.

The fight scenes were done. Which is another reason why I thought there should have been more of them. 95% of the comic was violent fighting and battles. The film should have followed. The fight scenes were well done; well except for the excessive use of slo-mo. Slo-mo doesn't always = bad. But too much slo-mo ALWAYS = bad.

Since when does a movie's ticket sales dictate it's quality? You must be a big Titanic fan. Horrible justification for saying a movie is good is quoting box office numbers.

This movie's simplicity was not one of it's faults. Films should be entertaining as well as artistic. Being complicated doesn't necessarily equate to either. This film visually was nearly perfect. But it wasn't nearly as entertaining as it should have been.

And yes the Good Shepard was very crappy.
 
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"Since when does a movie's ticket sales dictate it's quality? You must be a big Titanic fan. Horrible justification for saying a movie is good is quoting box office numbers."

-Nup, you misunderstood. I don't think sales = qaulity, just look at 50 cent. I'm just stating it will be a high seller cause alot of people are going to watch it. And this will be a rare film that earns every penny it makes, I hope it does well. And no I am not a fan of titanic, but a freind of mine is and compares everything to that. :D

I don't think the pacing was bad, the majority was fighting and for me (interested in ancient history) it was good to see something finally in our time about the spartans so it kept me interested. This might be why I like it so much? I was like this with Alexander, but after viewing it I half liked it, the battles were awseome but the focus on him being a fag throughout the movie was spasticated. Alot of people back then fucked each other, look at 'the sacred band' everyone of those fighters were lovers it's what made them so good, they fought for their lovers.

And I'm glad we agree on the good shepard, if you said you liked it I would of stopped posting :D


And I wanna add that the Spartans looked great in the film.
 
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Syko Sniper said:
And I wanna add that the Spartans looked great in the film.

After that you've gotta expect to be called a fag.


Syko Sniper said:
I don't think the pacing was bad, the majority was fighting and for me (interested in ancient history) it was good to see something finally in our time about the spartans so it kept me interested. This might be why I like it so much? I was like this with Alexander, but after viewing it I half liked it, the battles were awseome but the focus on him being a fag throughout the movie was spasticated. Alot of people back then fucked each other, look at 'the sacred band' everyone of those fighters were lovers it's what made them so good, they fought for their lovers.
I'm interested in History as well. But again this is not a movie to see if you're looking for anything History related. Other than the Spartans existed, the Persians existed, and at one time their armies fought each other is about as far as history goes for this movie. But again I wasn't expecting historical accuracy so this was not part of the let down of the movie; nor was it part of the draw.
 
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I never read the graphic novel, so the movie was good to me.

I dont think there are very many movies that 100% accurate, it is what it is.

I was entertained and thats all i give a fat ass fuck about.

Matter of fact, im goin to see it again next weekend.
 
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PHX Sun said:
I've never seen a computer animated movie in my life.... and I never will
Why not? The things they can do are utterly amazing. Finding Nemo was phenomnal. On top of that, there is ALOT of grown up humor in those films. They have to find some way to entertain grown ups while the kids stare at the bright animated figures for 2 hours.
 
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I don't see the appeal of this Grindhouse movie. I will most definitely see it on DVD, though.

300 was entertaining, but fell short of "great".