i can make a person unconcious by blowing smoke in their face.
theres alot of things a real shaman can do that real people may never have any idea about, and its not trickery
i guess one thing id say is the power of suggestion and the manipulation of the mind can do alot to a human. most people arent sound and it takes uncovering forgotten emotions to make them vunerable.
but a real shaman dosent do anything for negative reasons. wheras they might work or communicate with dark forces they dont do the devils work, because you basically take on the negative energy around you, and its nto healthy.
but the devil, in some ways, is gods helper
if he didnt exist thered be no balance between negative and positive forces
before i took on studying and learning and being underneath other shamans i was told that i was taking a path that may quite possibly lead in my own destruction/demise. and i was told this with a straight face, the person wholeheartedly did not want me involved.