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We can discuss 'gangster shit' or 'keepin it real' all day. But how is this behavior acceptable in 2011??? An entire group of people are murdering one another and the other half are rotting in prison cells for the crime or for revenge, mostly young males that had/have zero parenting. We need to stop blaming cultures, music, movies, etc and really get to the core of the problem...a complete LACK of parents that don't put themselves before their children's needs. A complete lack of parents who are there setting values or enforcing rules like a lot of the older generations did. Very very sad to me, so many young people being raised by people with no damn sense.
you can't stop it unless you dump money education city planning etc. in those neighborhoods for for 2 generations at least. the O, bmore, watts, Detroit, SOuthside chicago, those mothafuckas are in generational poverty meaning that kinda culture is ingrained in them, sort of like those warrior tribes that still killing each other after thousands of years.
 
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even then a lot of the hood mind frame is based off opportunism. the key to solving the issue may be a strategy that is impossible to build because the people won't earnestly buy into it w/o looking for a way to take advantage of it, and the social institutions that would be integral to deploying it (schools, social welfare initiatives) are operationally incapable/inept when it comes to not only devising it, but executing it w/efficacy.
 
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Is everyone gonna continue to gloss over the fact that the dad is a part of Kafani's crew who just days before beat someone up for 'talkin down on the crew' and posted video of it? This was not a guy who randomly went to the store for formula LOL
i didn't know he was part of kafani's crew
the news said he was going to the store, that's what i went off of
 
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even then a lot of the hood mind frame is based off opportunism. the key to solving the issue may be a strategy that is impossible to build because the people won't earnestly buy into it w/o looking for a way to take advantage of it, and the social institutions that would be integral to deploying it (schools, social welfare initiatives) are operationally incapable/inept when it comes to not only devising it, but executing it w/efficacy.
and the republican speaks
 
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lol you're a funny little guy

You would never be able to hold your own in a debate with me on the topic. I don't know how you think you can gauge my intelligence level off of um...err...nothing?

Spewing rhetoric does not equal intelligence my friend. I'm glad you took that poly-sci class. I probably would have enjoyed it if I had ever had the opportunity to go to school.
 
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s/o shane and larry. whoever the fuck they are. lol.

I don't know how you think you can gauge my intelligence level off of um...err...nothing?

funny you threw that shit in cause you talkin to a high school graduate. but how would you know that makin assumptions from your obama bedsheets.

keep tryna get personal w/someone you don't know cause you can't really say shit otherwise, intellectually.

 
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anyways this sucka fixated on me following me around an internet forum trying to bicker w/me like a angry bitch. fall back go talk to your mom or something, we were having a good dialog before you showed up mad at me. check your tendencies and have a respectful intellectual conversation.

i'ma call this right now tho, moeses. get your mind right. like i said you seem cool, control your feelings.

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look, i even gave you some pity props. cool out now lol.
 
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i don't hold poms poms for no man. i'm my own person fuck a republican first-and-foremost, but fuck a democrat too.
that sounds good, but your last couple of posts and then the crack about him having obama bedsheets. just reeks of small minded conservative 'tea party' type values and seems to be the context that a 'republican' would throw out there. you basically blamed the victims of generational disenfranchisement, with a variation on the old 'welfare is the problem, why don't they just do better' argument that conservatives use
 
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you fucked up mentioning my mom rest in peace

i'll see you in person

there won't be any more responses from me towards you...
r.i.p. your mom tho. it doesn't put me out to tell you sincerely i didn't mean insult your mom or her death. sorry to hear about that, my apologies.

but let's cut the crap and have an honest conversation about an issue instead of bickering, personal bullshit.
 
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that sounds good, but your last couple of posts and then the crack about him having obama bedsheets. just reeks of small minded conservative 'tea party' type values and seems to be the context that a 'republican' would throw out there. you basically blamed the victims of generational disenfranchisement, with a variation on the old 'welfare is the problem, why don't they just do better' argument that conservatives use
any tea party shit is some shit you read into what i said.

there's been an elaborate, long-running and systematic crippling of social mobility for minorities and the impoverished that has conditioned a large contingent of that group to pursue opportunism, not as a fault but as a survival mechanism.

to recognize the symptom is not to condemn the afflicted. you have to honestly recognize the variables in a system, before you can solve the flaws in it.

if we can agree that a lack of parenting is a huge contributing factor to violence, cyclical poverty and all kinds of other areas that it cascades into this and that area of our communities. you're really talking about opportunistic parents that give more of a fuck about themselves than they do their families, and they pass that shit down, and it's very real. personal accountability is eroding with every generation, and that's just one aspect along w/the way social/civic institutions have been fucking the communities that needs to be addressed.

are we, and our leaders equipped to? has it gone too far? that was the simple question i was posing out the gate.
 

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you fucked up mentioning my mom rest in peace

i'll see you in person


there won't be any more responses from me towards you...
cause he told you to talk to your mom?

damn dude your fuckin trippen off some shit that wasnt even offensive

you remind me of someone i know
 
#80
Deplorable story here, i give those that are wounded and the 1 year old innocent being who's corpse was taken from this earth but who's spirit lives on, my condolences. Those streets of Oakland are definitely a war zone, we as human beings fail to love and respect one another. Violence does not solve anything, as this scenario will possibly proceed with retaliation. Weapons were the worst creation on this earth i think, as us human beings use them for the wrong purposes; deducting numbers from our population with one pull of the trigger to say the least.

But as from Law Enforcements perspective, they look at the Brown and Black minorities and say how absurd these people are, as they see us only destroying our own population with our violence which in majority of the cases emerge from Gangs and Drugs.

with no disrespect Kafani better be cautious before he ends up in a coffin like our fallen brother Pretty Black, be wise particularly in Oakland where we all know flashing scrill will only put you in danger.