6 dead in washington state shooting.

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Listen, police are oppressive by nature. Always have been and always will be under our system. The entire system we live in is oppressive- the police, the army, the judicial system, the courts, the prisons, etc. It is an oppressive apparatus and the police are a part of it.

OK.

Even the so called “good cops” in reality are bad cops. These so called good cops still must enforce oppressive laws and anyone whose job is to enforce corrupt/oppressive statutes is corrupt and oppressive by proxy. The police have, throughout history, only functioned as an oppressive organization to protect and serve the ruling elite, not the majority of people. That is why I have zero respect for any police officer and that is why I believe no working class american should ever have any respect for the police.

Let me pose this question to you...what if you were one of the elite? In other words, if you were not in the working class, and were a CEO of a company that made uber bucks, would you still feel the same way?

The entire system has to change. And if it did, to something that I believe in, there would be a dramatic difference between a police force that is influenced/controlled by the rich ruling elite like we see today and a police force that is funded/controlled/influenced by average citizens of a community. In the latter, there would be no rich elite to control and manipulate the police force; there would be no rich elite to call the police to “protect” their factories and shoot-down marchers/union members, or to enforce currupt/oppressive laws, etc. There would be no rich elite to pay the police force for favors. The police would be the community.

I guess i didnt look at what were you referring to in a manor of large gatherings. I was simply talking about cops getting routine calls like someone getting their house robbed or a simple assault.

I guess because I am never in situations of protests and what have you's, i dont really care.

I havent called the cops since is was like 12. I have no need to call the cops.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Let me pose this question to you...what if you were one of the elite? In other words, if you were not in the working class, and were a CEO of a company that made uber bucks, would you still feel the same way?

I think you should know by now that I could never been a situation like that. I couldn't imagine being a CEO or apart of the elite, it goes against everything I stand for. If I were, I wouldn't be me. :chinese:

I guess i didnt look at what were you referring to in a manor of large gatherings. I was simply talking about cops getting routine calls like someone getting their house robbed or a simple assault.

It's not just large gatherings it's the little things too - enforcing laws that are strictly there to generate money (or take money from the working class), etc. These are things they do on a day to day basis.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

I think you should know by now that I could never been a situation like that. I couldn't imagine being a CEO or apart of the elite, it goes against everything I stand for. If I were, I wouldn't be me. :chinese:

So you arent interested in being rich? Just curious.

I aint gonna lie...money is money, regardless. We all know that in this world, if you want ANYTHING, you need MONEY...period. It runs the planet Earth. People llive and die for it everyday.

It's not just large gatherings it's the little things too - enforcing laws that are strictly there to generate money (or take money from the working class), etc. These are things they do on a day to day basis.

Youll have to excuse me, as im a bit slow today. Can you give me an example?

 

[Syko Sniper]

^^I'll give you an example. Here in australia (i dunno bout US) we have alot of speed cameras all over the place and they generate a shitload of money for the government for the small amount of people we have here. Half the time they dont even work and fuck up the speed reading and you get fined a fair bit, if you want to fight it you have to take that shit to court. = long process and some people are affraid to lose alot more in court, so thats one example of the smaller things

 

[2-0-Sixx]

So you arent interested in being rich? Just curious.

No I have no desire to be rich. (I am a communist you know )

I aint gonna lie...money is money, regardless. We all know that in this world, if you want ANYTHING, you need MONEY...period. It runs the planet Earth. People llive and die for it everyday.

That depends on what you're looking for out of life comrade. I am happy being an average worker, like most people, and living my life as best as I can. I don't need lots of money, jewelry, fancy clothes and cars to make me happy. But that's me though, I find happiness in simple things and my motivations/desires are not typical in todays world.

Youll have to excuse me, as im a bit slow today. Can you give me an example?

Very simple example is traffic laws. Lane change violation when no one is present. Fines go direct to state. Penalties, increased insurance rates. Speeding 5 MPH over the limit. Fines go direct to state. Penalties, increased insurance rates. etc etc etc. These are laws not directed at protecting people but to generate money.

Or non-violent crimes. Smoking pot. Fines, possible jail time. Rehab. All generating money, etc. Again, not protecting anyone, designed to oppress and generate money. Unpopular law, majority of americans disagree. Doesn't matter. Over 50% of our prison population is non-violent crime related. It's a business. Laws are created by lobbyists groups that have direct interest in seeing more people in jail, etc. Again, this is oppressive and serving a small minority, not the majority.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

No I have no desire to be rich. (I am a communist you know )

Well, that makes one of us. Being poor all my life hasnt been fun.

That depends on what you're looking for out of life comrade. I am happy being an average worker, like most people, and living my life as best as I can. I don't need lots of money, jewelry, fancy clothes and cars to make me happy. But that's me though, I find happiness in simple things and my motivations/desires are not typical in todays world.

Being rich doesnt mean you have to floss. Whats wrong with having things when you want them? I like to go out and eat, at nice places. I like to visit other places in the world. It would be nice to have a FULLY paid car that doesnt break down every 6 months. Send your children through college without putting yourself or them in debt. Money can to alot more than add nice watch to your collection. When you aint got shit, its nice to be ABLE to have shit. Money = options.

Dont you own a PS3/HDTV???

Very simple example is traffic laws. Lane change violation when no one is present. Fines go direct to state. Penalties, increased insurance rates. Speeding 5 MPH over the limit. Fines go direct to state. Penalties, increased insurance rates. etc etc etc. These are laws not directed at protecting people but to generate money.

Or non-violent crimes. Smoking pot. Fines, possible jail time. Rehab. All generating money, etc. Again, not protecting anyone, designed to oppress and generate money. Unpopular law, majority of americans disagree. Doesn't matter. Over 50% of our prison population is non-violent crime related. It's a business. Laws are created by lobbyists groups that have direct interest in seeing more people in jail, etc. Again, this is oppressive and serving a small minority, not the majority.

Thank you.

I agree, ther prison problem is ridiculous. I watched a documentary where stocks of prison building companies are traded daily just like OJ and Honda....that is sickening to say the least. The fuller the prison, the higher the stocks are worth.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Whats wrong with having things when you want them? I like to go out and eat, at nice places. I like to visit other places in the world. It would be nice to have a FULLY paid car that doesnt break down every 6 months. Send your children through college without putting yourself or them in debt. Money can to alot more than add nice watch to your collection. When you aint got shit, its nice to be ABLE to have shit. Money = options.

Nothing is wrong with any of that. Don't get me wrong, I want those things too. I just don't have a desire to be RICH. What you described sounds more like living a stable life (which is something EVERYONE should have, not just the rich). Maybe you should define rich for me (rich is having excess money that you don't need).

Dont you own a PS3/HDTV???

Yes and no. My PS3 was given to me by my ex-girfriend as a b-day gift. The HDTV I'm currently using is my brothers who let me borrow it for the time being as he's waiting to move into his new house (this week actually which sucks for me, it's going to suck going back to my old shitty TV).

I agree, ther prison problem is ridiculous. I watched a documentary where stocks of prison building companies are traded daily just like OJ and Honda....that is sickening to say the least. The fuller the prison, the higher the stocks are worth.

Yeah there is a really good book worth reading, cant remember the name but when I get home I'll find it and let you know if you're interested.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Its nice to debate with a person who isnt a dick/full of them self to the point that things turn ugly.

Appreciate the grown-man-ess, man.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Likewise comrade. And it happened in the open forum of all places!

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Likewise comrade. And it happened in the open forum of all places!

Funny as it may seem, i feel that the GOM forum has been getting a bit harsh as of late.

People forget that opinions are opionions...not facts. It gets irratating when someone tries to push their opinion, outlook, preception, and preference on you like its fact.

 

[savdout916]

its treal round my state son!


all jokes aside, rip to the non cops

how gay can one be

 

[Sydal]

theres alot of suicide by cop all over the world and we pretty much have the same thing going on here as you guys in america do in regards to police powers, but that is not my point. The guy did not show his gun for starters, but its the fact after they shot him they didnt even check to see if he was alive/dead w/e and went straight to the dog.

In that situation, it's shoot to kill. They didn't care if he was dead or not because it didn't matter, when he made that threat, and then made the move, they had the choice to kill and they did that.

 

[Sydal]

A pig's a pig, don't give a fuck how much his friends and neighbors think he's "cool", he most likely aint fuckin wit em like that so of course y'all think he's "cool".

Crazy how many cop lovers there are on the Siccness.

It's not necessarily "cop lovers". I personally hold a high regard for human life, PERIOD! If a criminal gets laid out, it saddens me. Even though he may have deserved it, it still sucks. Same goes for everybody. I've met cops that are out there trying to make a difference, and I've met cops that are on power trips. I don't judge a whole group of people because of a few assholes that I've met. Every time you show me an asshole cop, I can show you more than one asshole that's out there killing our kids over NOTHING!

 

[siccness-user]

fuckin pigs

r.i.p. tho


(fuckin pigs)