49ers vs Saints

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Apr 13, 2006
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fuck the saints.......atleast dey qb didnt throw for 500yrs.....basically bush beat us....now its gone b all over espn for the whole year....mothafukaz give bush 2 much credit
 
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Bottom line we gotta win games from now on no bullshit we still got those playoff hopes alive...We just gotta win Alex Smith needs to find the playmakers let Vernon loose, you know Byrant is a deep threat fuck we have a running game spread the ball..First up is the Packers a must win game
 

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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
A little better? The 3rd down playcalling and redzone playcalling are absolutely horrible.

You get down on the team, and in this case Alex Smith, way too easily. You're bitching about him throwing the ball away after scrambling.. That's what he's told to do. They're not trying to let Alex control the game. The Niners' gameplan is for him to go out and do small things while the run game sets the offense up. They need to show more confidence in Smith in order for him to have the opportunities to make big plays.

And another thing.. Every QB in the league misses receivers when they're open. Chances are the receiver is open on every play, but that doesn't mean they're open when the QB has his eyes on them.
I get down on the team when I get pissed I ain't gonna front about that, but everything I said bout Alex Smith is true. He started out the year great and made great strides from last year, but hasn't been vastly improving through the season. I love Alex Smith and think he's gonna be a good QB but right now he just ain't makin it happen. He underthrows his receivers constantly. When he has the the short 7-8 yard pass he'll force a deep throw when he doesn't need to. Antonio Bryant is constantly wide open down field and if he could just bomb it a lil better Bryant would have 3-5 more TDs this season. I think Smith has better arm strength then most people give him credit for, but lately he's just been droppin the ball, especially last game, made a couple crucial mistakes. I know he'll get better, bet ya know its a lil frustratin, but ya gotta expect that with a young team. Regardless I'm not sure if Play-offs is gonna go down this year but I'm excited about the off season. I hope we sign either Nate Clements or Adalius Thomas or maybe even both, probably not, but ya know.
 

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Alot of cats on here was sayin he was a bust cuz he wasn't doing Barry Sanders numbers.
Well they gotta understand that Reggie isn't primarily used as a running back. He made the 9ers defenders look like some college team.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Tony said:
And Alex did trip McKenzie up, how in the hell do you think he tripped? Y'all think he tripped over his own two feet?
You need to pay attention when you watch those highlights. McKenzie was going down regardless. Alex did touch him, but he was about to take the trip whether Alex touched him or not.

All I'm saying is there was not any indisputable, conclusive evidence that Alex did touch him until the video crew blew up the image and that was well after the ref overturned the call. Now don't get me wrong, I know he made the right call, but by rule he wasn't supposed to make it. I'm not saying it was the wrong call and I'm not making excuses, but the fact is that ref is a fuckin moron. He's the same ref that fucked the raiders last week and I said he was a faggot then. I'm saying he's a faggot now. The announcers always commend him because he explains his fuck-ups to perfection. I saw Bryant Young getting held several times, no call. They fucked Antonio Bryant twice on pass interference calls. The crew is garbage and needs to be done away with.
 

Tony

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^I saw the play live just like you did. So I paid close attention. It was close... I forget what the original call was on the field. But I thought they got the call right to be honest. Alex tripped him up.

I seen Bryant Young being held plenty of times. He's always getting held. But you gotta think... your squad is on the road in New Orleans (you know the NFL wants New Orleans to have a good season because of the disaster last year) so of course the refs aren't going to call it.

I saw one play where PI could have been called when Fred Thomas was covering Antonio Bryant but I think the refs didn't call PI because it was incedental contact. It's more of a judgement call on the refs.

But Frisco should have run the ball more or gotten Vernon Davis the ball. They need to get Vernon Davis more involved in their offense. They don't throw him the ball enough in my opinion.
 

Tony

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Hollywood said:
Here is one simple question WHERE THE FUCK IS VD dude got more money than Shockey but hes just a pimple on a elephants ass at this point..
Good shit.... And he's the fastest tight end in the league. They should have plenty of plays drawn up to get him the ball. The 49ers don't throw him the ball enough. You gotta get him involved because he's a true weapon. I don't think anyone can cover that dude. He's too fast for linebackers and too strong for safeties. The 49ers need to do a better job of getting him involved in the game plan. Shit I am not going to lie... I am not a 49er fan but I want to see this cat make plays.
 
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i agree with tony....get vernon davis the ball.... he is the fastest tight end in the league....and alex smith needs to stop doin the same thing on every play....he gets plenty of time, but then runs around, almost gets sacked, barely gets away, then throws the ball away or throws a very bad pass....i get down on my team sometimes but hey....there's always next week....GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!....yeee
 

Tony

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Yeah but they don't hardly ever throw to him. And with his skill he can cause a lot of matchup problems. See Antonio Gates?
 
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Tony said:
Yeah but they don't hardly ever throw to him. And with his skill he can cause a lot of matchup problems. See Antonio Gates?
Dude...all the good TE's in the league create matchup problems.

Gonzales
Gates
Winslow
Heap
Shockey

But this is his first year...maybe he's running the wrong routes...maybe he's just not getting open...it takes a little time.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Tony said:
It was close... I forget what the original call was on the field. But I thought they got the call right to be honest. Alex tripped him up.
I agree with you. They did get the right call. But the original call on the field was he fell on his own and Alex did not touch him. In order to reverse that decision there is supposed to be clear, undisputable evidence that the call was wrong. That evidence did not come until the TV crew blew up the video, which like I said was well after the ref overturned it. I've seen a gang of calls not get overturned because there wasn't enough evidence to change the call even though it looked obvious the call on the field was wrong, and that's the way they're told to handle replays. The ref did not follow protocol. That's all I'm saying.

So I'm saying he made the right call because we all saw it when the replay was blown up, but he wasn't supposed to make it. I'm not trying to make an excuse for the Niners losing because I think they would've lost anyway, I'm just saying that particular ref and his crew are idiots and don't officiate properly.


Tony said:
I seen Bryant Young being held plenty of times. He's always getting held. But you gotta think... your squad is on the road in New Orleans (you know the NFL wants New Orleans to have a good season because of the disaster last year) so of course the refs aren't going to call it.
It's true he does get held a helluva lot, but not as blatantly as this game. Some refs turn their heads in certain situations, but most don't do it so many times in a single game. Like they always say, holding happens on almost every play, it just depends on whether the crew decides to call it and their decision normally depends on how obvious the hold was. If I, as a fan, can point out a defender being held the refs should be able to spot it and call it. By letting it go they're just making themselves look incompetent.

Tony said:
I saw one play where PI could have been called when Fred Thomas was covering Antonio Bryant but I think the refs didn't call PI because it was incedental contact. It's more of a judgement call on the refs.
You can make that arguement on the bomb over the middle where they both tripped up because of the corner's aggressive play. That one was a toss up I guess and it would depend on the ref's judgement. But the one on the sidelines when they threw the flag, then picked it up was complete bullshit.

Tony said:
But Frisco should have run the ball more or gotten Vernon Davis the ball. They need to get Vernon Davis more involved in their offense. They don't throw him the ball enough in my opinion.
Vernon is still learning the offense. Not to mention the fact he's just coming off that broken leg. It's gonna take some time before he becomes the major factor that he should be.

As for running the ball more, I agree. Gore is a top back in the league. But the reason they didn't run as much is because New Orleans had 8 men in the box, which doesn't matter with Gore, but they wanted to try to expose the pass because of the D was focusing on the run. That didn't work.
 

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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:

As for running the ball more, I agree. Gore is a top back in the league. But the reason they didn't run as much is because New Orleans had 8 men in the box, which doesn't matter with Gore, but they wanted to try to expose the pass because of the D was focusing on the run. That didn't work.
That's when you max protect and go to your tight end...when the defense has 8 men in the box. Davis probably was matched up on a safety or a linebacker in one on one coverage. You've got to exploit that matchup. If the 49ers are running a true west coast offense Vernon Davis should be used more. Look at Seattle. They're always looking for Jeremy Stevens. Even though that fool be dropping hella passes. He stays involved. But in my opinion they need to go to Vernon Davis more and stop forcing the ball so much to Bryant.

That's why Gates gets open. Teams crowd the line of scrimmage to stop LT and that leaves Gates in one on one matchups.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Tony said:
But in my opinion they need to go to Vernon Davis more
I agree, but I also understand that Vernon hasn't learned the offense well enough and he's coming off a leg injury so he's not being used in full force. Next year I believe he will become a good Tight End. In a few years he will be the best TE in the league. He's physically superior to almost everybody in the league. But when he does get thrown to he's always wide open with nobody around for about 10 yards. Wait until he learns the Niner offense and he will be a dominating factor.
 
Dec 22, 2004
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
I agree, but I also understand that Vernon hasn't learned the offense well enough and he's coming off a leg injury so he's not being used in full force. Next year I believe he will become a good Tight End. In a few years he will be the best TE in the league. He's physically superior to almost everybody in the league. But when he does get thrown to he's always wide open with nobody around for about 10 yards. Wait until he learns the Niner offense and he will be a dominating factor.
I think thats bs to be honest Gates and Shockey blew this league up when they where in there rookie year talent is talent bottom line its like TO give him the ball and watch the drama unfold JUST THROW HIM THE BALL. In his first game look what he did...